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    Quote Originally Posted by stevep View Post
    Ssh since 2016.
    Worst game at BMO I've been to.
    Boring.
    Consider yourself lucky, I guess.

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    ffs Auro. There actually is a time to just cross the ball into the mixer and it's right there, when you have 6 guys in the box and nobody with you making any kind of supporting run. Cross the fucking ball instead of standing there staring at your man and then inviting pressure with a back pass.

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    wtf Chapman? That is basic soccer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stegosaurus View Post
    Pozo spinning around in a circle looking for someone to pass to just about sums up the game for me, or maybe Boyd doing his best Big Ben Spencer / Bambi impression. Are we sure heís actually a professional footballer? He could just be a Boyd impersonator who also slept on Vanneyís couch.

    Mavinga has been good today.
    Looks like a guy who lifts weights and otherwise plays menís league at a meddling level

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    We need a Seba replacement. We need 2 speedy, quality wingers. We need 2 steady defenders.

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    Boyd is absolutely useless. Hey Ali sign some players!

    Zavaleta hasn't even been terrible.

    4-2-3-1 doesn't make sense with 0 wingers. DeLeon isn't a winger. Osorio is being wasted on the wing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69Chevy396 View Post
    We need a Seba replacement. We need 2 speedy, quality wingers. We need 2 steady defenders.
    FW on left side (DP)
    CB who can lead and take over for Moor
    Somebody to replace Delgado in the starting 11

    And more wide players

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    This game is absolute trash. The CPL game today was 100x better than this shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ag futbol View Post
    Looks like a guy who lifts weights and otherwise plays menís league at a meddling level
    Pozo is going to get pissed off pretty quickly if he isnít already. Heís already frustrated, persistently hacked all game, and virtually everyone playing in front of him barely look any more competent than the guys playing up front in the CPL game.

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    Oso, wtf?

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    It's taken a few more games than expected; but Altidore is made of glass check; Ciman was just a charity signing check; and if management has no clear plans for new personnel its only going to harder to watch check and checkmate

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    I love Justin Morrow as a defensive fullback but if you have no true wide threat on the left side you are sunk.

    It looks like a training drill watching him taking 3-4 touches every time trying to figure out what heís going to do

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    Everyone who thought we just need a CB and the goals will come needs to rethink that assumption.

    Weíre a set of glass hamstrings away from being a below average team unfortunately

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    We've been exposed today.
    We're not very good at this point.
    We need more players

    The crazy thing is we could have won if you take back those two plays by Portland.
    That shows how shit this league is
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    All 3 subs came on and looked terrible. Can't believe Akinola didn't put his head on that perfect cross.

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    Deserved loss for sure. So lethargic in attack compared to our other games this season and no coincidence this was the one where we were missing Altidore. Delgado, DeLeon and Auro were poor in attack and it killed our ability to build up play.

    Bradley was great today, we concede two more without him. Westberg also was good, keep playing him.

    I can only say it so many times, this team is sunk without Moor starting.

    We also keep subbing Chapman in at right wing because there's no one else. He sucks there. Our lack of quality wing play was exposed again today as without the Altidore-Pozo combination in the middle we have no way to break down a bunkering team, which they became after taking the lead. The one chance we created was due to Pozuelo drifting out wide to actually get on the ball facing forward and make a play. Altidore probably scores on that cross too...

    Fuck waiting for summer signings, the needs of this team are already beyond clear. TAM winger and CB. It's that simple.

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    With better execution of simple things and a bit of urgency the team we started should have been able to easily beat that Timbers side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notthesun View Post
    Deserved loss for sure. So lethargic in attack compared to our other games this season and no coincidence this was the one where we were missing Altidore. Delgado, DeLeon and Auro were poor in attack and it killed our ability to build up play.

    Bradley was great today, we concede two more without him. Westberg also was good, keep playing him.

    I can only say it so many times, this team is sunk without Moor starting.

    We also keep subbing Chapman in at right wing because there's no one else. He sucks there. Our lack of quality wing play was exposed again today as without the Altidore-Pozo combination in the middle we have no way to break down a bunkering team, which they became after taking the lead. The one chance we created was due to Pozuelo drifting out wide to actually get on the ball facing forward and make a play. Altidore probably scores on that cross too...

    Fuck waiting for summer signings, the needs of this team are already beyond clear. TAM winger and CB. It's that simple.
    They need two wingers, Deleon isnít creative or fast enough to be a winger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notthesun View Post
    Deserved loss for sure. So lethargic in attack compared to our other games this season and no coincidence this was the one where we were missing Altidore. Delgado, DeLeon and Auro were poor in attack and it killed our ability to build up play.

    Bradley was great today, we concede two more without him. Westberg also was good, keep playing him.

    I can only say it so many times, this team is sunk without Moor starting.

    We also keep subbing Chapman in at right wing because there's no one else. He sucks there. Our lack of quality wing play was exposed again today as without the Altidore-Pozo combination in the middle we have no way to break down a bunkering team, which they became after taking the lead. The one chance we created was due to Pozuelo drifting out wide to actually get on the ball facing forward and make a play. Altidore probably scores on that cross too...

    Fuck waiting for summer signings, the needs of this team are already beyond clear. TAM winger and CB. It's that simple.
    Will say it again, and again....this was the type of game we were stealing in 2017 because of a moment or two, of Seba brilliance. Take him, and Altidore out of the equation, and we stink. Poz is going to get injured the way MLS hacks are targeting him, and then the slide to last place will be guaranteed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notthesun View Post
    Deserved loss for sure. So lethargic in attack compared to our other games this season and no coincidence this was the one where we were missing Altidore. Delgado, DeLeon and Auro were poor in attack and it killed our ability to build up play.

    Bradley was great today, we concede two more without him. Westberg also was good, keep playing him.

    I can only say it so many times, this team is sunk without Moor starting.

    We also keep subbing Chapman in at right wing because there's no one else. He sucks there. Our lack of quality wing play was exposed again today as without the Altidore-Pozo combination in the middle we have no way to break down a bunkering team, which they became after taking the lead. The one chance we created was due to Pozuelo drifting out wide to actually get on the ball facing forward and make a play. Altidore probably scores on that cross too...

    Fuck waiting for summer signings, the needs of this team are already beyond clear. TAM winger and CB. It's that simple.
    Agreed with all of this.

    Too add: what on earth is Vanney doing continuing to field Osorio and Chapman and all these other guys as wide players? Thatís not where they play and theyíre horribly ineffective in those spots.

    Should have gone 4-2-3-1 with Osorio-Poz-DeLeon as the ď3Ē intentionally playing narrow. And we shouldnít have waited until we were down a goal to add a second striker or release our fullbacks.

    Edit: heck for how bad DeLeon looks at times and how incapable he seems to playing simple combinations I might even consider dropping him for Chapman there.
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    Completely unacceptable. Losing at home to a side second bottom of the West shows how far our standards have dropped in the last 12 months. Is there no way we can change ownership because were going nowhere fast under MLSE. Its clear they are content with a single championship season in 2017, after all its something none of their other sides have achieved. Instead of building a dynasty they've allowed key individuals from Betashour to Giovinco to Bezbatchenko to leave without adequate replacement. Seba should have been resigned at the of the 2017 season, but instead Manning dragged his heels, making it clear they had no intention of renewing his contract when it expired leaving Seba no option but to look elsewhere. (Please spare me the money argument because if we had taken care of him at the right time, the ridiculous figures at the end would never have came into play)

    Today was a shocking performance in a season that's been littered with them already. Our league position flatters us. There were times in today's game I thought I was watching Mariner's hoofball, with long aimless passes from deep within our own half to no player in particular. Similarly from the wing, any time Morrow or DeLeon made it past the defender it was a blind pass into the centre rather than picking out a forward to play it to directly. As good a player Pozeulo is, he is far too lightweight and is frequently brushed off the ball with ease. To be fair to him however he is being asked to do too much on his own. There is absolutely no movement in front of him to allow him the opportunity utilize his skills and make a telling pass. He is also being asked to replace both Vazquez and Giovinco, which is simply impossible. He is more at the level of the Spaniard imo, an talented yet limited player rather than a superstar in the mould of the Italian, who quite simply is the best player to ever don the red shirt of TFC.

    I fear we might be at the stage where a complete clearout is needed, from Ali Curtus, through Vanney, to half the playing staff. Osorio, Delgado and Chapman are shadows of the players who contributed to our 2017 triumphs. Auro is a bust, same with Boyd. Hamilton belongs with TFC II along with Liam Fraser, and Ciman, DeLeon and Westberg look average MLS journeymen at best. Only the captain and Mavinga get pass marks today and without them the result could well have been more embarrassing than it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Woolfe View Post
    Completely unacceptable. Losing at home to a side second bottom of the West shows how far our standards have dropped in the last 12 months. Is there no way we can change ownership because were going nowhere fast under MLSE. Its clear they are content with a single championship season in 2017, after all its something none of their other sides have achieved. Instead of building a dynasty they've allowed key individuals from Betashour to Giovinco to Bezbatchenko to leave without adequate replacement. Seba should have been resigned at the of the 2017 season, but instead Manning dragged his heels, making it clear they had no intention of renewing his contract when it expired leaving Seba no option but to look elsewhere. (Please spare me the money argument because if we had taken care of him at the right time, the ridiculous figures at the end would never have came into play)

    Today was a shocking performance in a season that's been littered with them already. Our league position flatters us. There were times in today's game I thought I was watching Mariner's hoofball, with long aimless passes from deep within our own half to no player in particular. Similarly from the wing, any time Morrow or DeLeon made it past the defender it was a blind pass into the centre rather than picking out a forward to play it to directly. As good a player Pozeulo is, he is far too lightweight and is frequently brushed off the ball with ease. To be fair to him however he is being asked to do too much on his own. There is absolutely no movement in front of him to allow him the opportunity utilize his skills and make a telling pass. He is also being asked to replace both Vazquez and Giovinco, which is simply impossible. He is more at the level of the Spaniard imo, an talented yet limited player rather than a superstar in the mould of the Italian, who quite simply is the best player to ever don the red shirt of TFC.

    I fear we might be at the stage where a complete clearout is needed, from Ali Curtus, through Vanney, to half the playing staff. Osorio, Delgado and Chapman are shadows of the players who contributed to our 2017 triumphs. Auro is a bust, same with Boyd. Hamilton belongs with TFC II along with Liam Fraser, and Ciman, DeLeon and Westberg look average MLS journeymen at best. Only the captain and Mavinga get pass marks today and without them the result could well have been more embarrassing than it was.
    Sad, but true. We forget just how good that 2017 was, when Cheyrou was primarily a late game sub, and Osorio only played occasionally. Bradley is going to ask to be traded to California. Altidore is injury prone. Moor simply can’t play anymore. Poz will be left with the garbage. So, so glad I did not get season tickets again....without serious changes, this team falls and stays, near the bottom by August (Orlando and Atlanta, without Altidore = 2 easy losses)

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Woolfe View Post
    Completely unacceptable. Losing at home to a side second bottom of the West shows how far our standards have dropped in the last 12 months. Is there no way we can change ownership because were going nowhere fast under MLSE. Its clear they are content with a single championship season in 2017, after all its something none of their other sides have achieved. Instead of building a dynasty they've allowed key individuals from Betashour to Giovinco to Bezbatchenko to leave without adequate replacement. Seba should have been resigned at the of the 2017 season, but instead Manning dragged his heels, making it clear they had no intention of renewing his contract when it expired leaving Seba no option but to look elsewhere. (Please spare me the money argument because if we had taken care of him at the right time, the ridiculous figures at the end would never have came into play)

    Today was a shocking performance in a season that's been littered with them already. Our league position flatters us. There were times in today's game I thought I was watching Mariner's hoofball, with long aimless passes from deep within our own half to no player in particular. Similarly from the wing, any time Morrow or DeLeon made it past the defender it was a blind pass into the centre rather than picking out a forward to play it to directly. As good a player Pozeulo is, he is far too lightweight and is frequently brushed off the ball with ease. To be fair to him however he is being asked to do too much on his own. There is absolutely no movement in front of him to allow him the opportunity utilize his skills and make a telling pass. He is also being asked to replace both Vazquez and Giovinco, which is simply impossible. He is more at the level of the Spaniard imo, an talented yet limited player rather than a superstar in the mould of the Italian, who quite simply is the best player to ever don the red shirt of TFC.

    I fear we might be at the stage where a complete clearout is needed, from Ali Curtus, through Vanney, to half the playing staff. Osorio, Delgado and Chapman are shadows of the players who contributed to our 2017 triumphs. Auro is a bust, same with Boyd. Hamilton belongs with TFC II along with Liam Fraser, and Ciman, DeLeon and Westberg look average MLS journeymen at best. Only the captain and Mavinga get pass marks today and without them the result could well have been more embarrassing than it was.
    LMAO. Hey buddy overreacting eh ? Pozuelo not at the level of Giovinco? He's playing way better than Giovinco did in his first five or six games. Giovinco is struggling in a horrible league at the moment. Auro a bust? He's one of the few guys who can actually pass.

    Hamilton belongs on tfc2? He just scored two goals last game you idiot. He's not a starter but he's a solid backup. Boyd sucks I'll give you that.

    Osorio is playing as well as you would expect as a winger.

    A new ownership? You realize they have spent more money than any other club in mls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikmacdo View Post
    LMAO. Hey buddy overreacting eh ? Pozuelo not at the level of Giovinco? He's playing way better than Giovinco did in his first five or six games. Giovinco is struggling in a horrible league at the moment. Auro a bust? He's one of the few guys who can actually pass.

    Hamilton belongs on tfc2? He just scored two goals last game you idiot. He's not a starter but he's a solid backup. Boyd sucks I'll give you that.

    Osorio is playing as well as you would expect as a winger.

    A new ownership? You realize they have spent more money than any other club in mls.
    Calling people here an idiot, often results in a banning. Do it again, and I will report you.

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    Different game in person then on TV, it seems.

    Portland is better than their record & we are worse than ours.

    Zavs had a steady game which given he did not put together one of those after the CCL last year, I'll take.

    Lot of the team played their worst game of the season - Delgado, DeLeon, Osorio, Auro.

    Getting real tired of Auro stopping our attacks.

    Westberg played well. He looked confident & that steadied the defense.

    Ref was crud. Looked like a clear red on that behind tackle on Mavinga. And he let persistent infringement go for too long.

    Hamilton looked good but nobody is Jozy. Akinola & Boyd put themselves about but when the only penetrating midfielder is Morrow, we got problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Different game in person then on TV, it seems.

    Portland is better than their record & we are worse than ours.

    Zavs had a steady game which given he did not put together one of those after the CCL last year, I'll take.

    Lot of the team played their worst game of the season - Delgado, DeLeon, Osorio, Auro.

    Getting real tired of Auro stopping our attacks.

    Westberg played well. He looked confident & that steadied the defense.

    Ref was crud. Looked like a clear red on that behind tackle on Mavinga. And he let persistent infringement go for too long.

    Hamilton looked good but nobody is Jozy. Akinola & Boyd put themselves about but when the only penetrating midfielder is Morrow, we got problems.
    Thatís about how I saw it. We were mentally slow. Auto and Morrow were very slow to get crosses in and it really slowed down the attack. I thought our coaches were slow mentally too. You could feel the lack of energy, how deliberately we were playing - they should have made a sub around the 60 th minute. As someone has said, Ayo coming in with Hamilton made more sense than for Hamilton. I think a double change with Ayo and Boyd for Marky and Deleon would have shaken things up, or Ayo and Chapman. At the game it just felt lethargic. Like we thought just passing it around leads to a win. Pace man pace.

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    Terrible game. Terrible stadium atmosphere.

    Need something different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ag futbol View Post
    Agreed with all of this.

    Too add: what on earth is Vanney doing continuing to field Osorio and Chapman and all these other guys as wide players? Thatís not where they play and theyíre horribly ineffective in those spots.

    Should have gone 4-2-3-1 with Osorio-Poz-DeLeon as the ď3Ē intentionally playing narrow. And we shouldnít have waited until we were down a goal to add a second striker or release our fullbacks.

    Edit: heck for how bad DeLeon looks at times and how incapable he seems to playing simple combinations I might even consider dropping him for Chapman there.
    We simply donít have the personnel to be effective using these types of formations, and it puts a lot of pressure on our defenders because Morrow and Auro (especially Auro) end up being really stretched. Auro just isnít a good defender.

    Pozo is a dangerous player. No one else on the attacking end of the pitch looked dangerous. Portland hacks Pozo so he canít put the team on his back. Pozo canít make the right passes because everyone in front of him doesnít make intelligent runs or know how to position themselves.

    When we had Seba, Jozy, and Vazquez, we had a very dangerous attacking trio and a set of offensive threats each with different abilities and strengths. Teams couldnít play against us like they do now because there were too many people who could change the game at any moment, they couldnít foul us near the box or going forward and have it be an effective strategy because free kicks were a real danger too.

    We wonít have those three players together again, but the FO canít keep pretending that these pieces are good enough.

    Mavinga was good today, and Nephew played well. Westberg looked fine too. Pozo and Bradley played well. Osorio scored but turned the ball over a lot (passes successful: 67%). The rest of the team was simply ineffective, subs were useless, and the formation was really not well thought out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyDM View Post
    Thatís about how I saw it. We were mentally slow. Auto and Morrow were very slow to get crosses in and it really slowed down the attack. I thought our coaches were slow mentally too. You could feel the lack of energy, how deliberately we were playing - they should have made a sub around the 60 th minute. As someone has said, Ayo coming in with Hamilton made more sense than for Hamilton. I think a double change with Ayo and Boyd for Marky and Deleon would have shaken things up, or Ayo and Chapman. At the game it just felt lethargic. Like we thought just passing it around leads to a win. Pace man pace.
    TFC is a pretty slow team, and Vanney wants to play possession football. Putting in a guy who is marginally faster because he hasnít touched the pitch yet isnít going to turn TFC into a speedy counter-attacking squad. The only guy who actually seems fast is Mavinga.
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    The problem is without altidore we have nothing, poz needs someone to finish his passes. If he was playing today he probably would've had a goal or 2. There were a couple points I said if altidore was playing that was in.

 

 

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