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    Default Tailgating coming to BMO

    10 years overdue.

    But at the risk of editorializing. YES!

    https://torontosun.com/sports/baseba...porting-events

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    Wew!

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    people were doing it already lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red4ever View Post
    10 years overdue.

    But at the risk of editorializing. YES!

    https://torontosun.com/sports/baseba...porting-events
    Iím all for tailgating but the provincial govít sounds like that uncle you donít want to invite to family events. Maybe Dougie can bring some buck-a-beers to the big Argos tailgate. 🙄

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    Quote Originally Posted by stegosaurus View Post
    I’m all for tailgating. Maybe Dougie can bring some buck-a-beers to the big Argos tailgate. 
    Hopefully. Yeah.

    Quote Originally Posted by whositwhatnow View Post
    people were doing it already lol
    Sneaking a pint / roadie in the parking lot is a little different than full on legal tailgating.

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    I guarantee MLSE is going to fight hard to make it a beer garden scenario to capitalize on profits.

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    Wonder if tailgating will lead to lower beer prices in stadium

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    I guarantee MLSE is going to fight hard to make it a beer garden scenario to capitalize on profits.
    I wager the price of parking will go up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red4ever View Post
    I wager the price of parking will go up.
    It's Toronto's Green P (or Ontario Place across the road) so MLSE won't see dime one if it does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    I guarantee MLSE is going to fight hard to make it a beer garden scenario to capitalize on profits.
    They tried that with the Argos & to a certain extent with the $5 beers on the "north patio". Not working so hot.


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    The biggest impediment to this at BMO will be the city/Ex who will be forced to provide security & will NOT be enclined to make this easy.


    TFC is mostly a walk in from transit or north of the train tracks crowd. How does tailgating work for a crowd that is mostly walk in? Anybody know how this works in the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    They tried that with the Argos & to a certain extent with the $5 beers on the "north patio". Not working so hot.


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    The biggest impediment to this at BMO will be the city/Ex who will be forced to provide security & will NOT be enclined to make this easy.


    TFC is mostly a walk in from transit or north of the train tracks crowd. How does tailgating work for a crowd that is mostly walk in? Anybody know how this works in the US?
    isn't that just called a picnic at that point?

    Wake me up when i can have a beer at the beach or park.
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    So are people going to show up at the stadium 5 minutes before the game starts; tailgate for the 1st half; and then come inside to watch the game for the 2nd half?

    I can't imagine large numbers of Torontonians showing up early enough to a TFC game to tailgate. I think it's hard to replicate that tradition and atmosphere from the NFL. I don't have any personal experience there, but I've heard even in the NFL, the amount & importance of tailgaiting varies quite a bit between different stadiums, times of year, etc. But this announcement fits the provincial bread & circuses agenda.

    Now if it helps to revive/strengthen RPB tailgates, that would be great. But even there, it takes enough of us to help with the organization, and then to show up early enough for it to work. Life tends to get in the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red4ever View Post
    10 years overdue.

    But at the risk of editorializing. YES!

    https://torontosun.com/sports/baseba...porting-events
    Interesting quotes are "The Ontario government is about to make it legal for teams to allow, U.S.-style tailgating outside stadiums and arenas." and "The amendment will also allow permit holders to sell their own alcohol on their premises (if thatís the way teams want to go instead of the BYOB option)".

    It just seems like the "team" is in control of what happens here. Less revenue from beer sales in the stadium and possible increased security risk with more people getting inebriated easier.....I doubt we see any change for TFC fans. Where is the upside for TFC to "allow" this? They don't have an issue with tickets sold to the games for the most part which would have been the only selling point for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auzzy View Post
    So are people going to show up at the stadium 5 minutes before the game starts; tailgate for the 1st half; and then come inside to watch the game for the 2nd half?

    I can't imagine large numbers of Torontonians showing up early enough to a TFC game to tailgate.
    Hell I'd settle for them getting there early enough to be in their seats for kickoff.

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    Is it less revenue though?
    Most people I know who drink before games tend to (then) care a little less about how overpriced the beer is once they get in the stadium.
    (See NFL beer lineups.)
    There are bars near enough to BMO for people who want to do that before a game, too.
    Who's up for parking lot keepy uppy and pints?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Kool View Post
    Interesting quotes are "The Ontario government is about to make it legal for teams to allow, U.S.-style tailgating outside stadiums and arenas." and "The amendment will also allow permit holders to sell their own alcohol on their premises (if that’s the way teams want to go instead of the BYOB option)".

    It just seems like the "team" is in control of what happens here. Less revenue from beer sales in the stadium and possible increased security risk with more people getting inebriated easier.....I doubt we see any change for TFC fans. Where is the upside for TFC to "allow" this? They don't have an issue with tickets sold to the games for the most part which would have been the only selling point for it.
    Yup, could very well be.

    I do think the alcohol might be the sticking point. That being said I kinda loathe everything about the Liberty Village restaurants, so having a grill out once a month is so much better.

    I look forward to reading what the law says .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Kool View Post
    Interesting quotes are "The Ontario government is about to make it legal for teams to allow, U.S.-style tailgating outside stadiums and arenas." and "The amendment will also allow permit holders to sell their own alcohol on their premises (if thatís the way teams want to go instead of the BYOB option)".

    It just seems like the "team" is in control of what happens here. Less revenue from beer sales in the stadium and possible increased security risk with more people getting inebriated easier.....I doubt we see any change for TFC fans. Where is the upside for TFC to "allow" this? They don't have an issue with tickets sold to the games for the most part which would have been the only selling point for it.
    It seems more like it was designed for the Argos who struggle to draw numbers or minor league teams in other sports in non-Toronto regions of Ontario.

    TFC has tried to do the tailgating experience and it didnít really take off, and while plenty of people lined up for $5 cups of Bud or Bud Light pre-game it was more about getting people into their seats.

    Three other points:

    1. The concessions themselves stop selling beer (and larger volumes of beer) despite ďadults.Ē

    2. Alcohol sponsors wonít like this.

    3. The schedule isnít necessarily tailgate friendly.

    No one really cared about seeing the Bills here so Iím not sure why they were bringing it up. Legalize tailgating, try to lure an NFL team here, and build casinos on the waterfront... Yikes.

    Itís just political pandering to his base for something with no history or relevance here. Iím for responsible drinking in public, but MLSE doesnít want to lose money (and potentially sponsors). Iíd prefer fair-value, good quality products to be served at BMO over tailgating any day, but then again I donít drive to the game.

    Or, you know, fix the tunnel issue that actually affects people and has public safety implications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red4ever View Post
    That being said I kinda loathe everything about the Liberty Village
    Could have just stopped there

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    When people.say tailgating they think buffalo. Which is extreme. I've been to a handful of stadiums and nothing compares.
    That said, I've heard from several people that they miss the argos tailgate. It was a small group, but they genuinely enjoyed it.
    We get too tied up thinking theres one solution for all. Some of like going to Joe's. Others would rather drive in and hang out in the parking lot.
    I like to drink a few roadies on the walk in. Too each their own.
    It doesnt have to be one or the other. This is adding an option, so it's a good thing. Nothing is being taken away
    I think the greater issue is that my friend can walk to the gate smoking weed, and it being totally legal, yet I technically cant drink a beer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glaze View Post
    When people.say tailgating they think buffalo. Which is extreme. I've been to a handful of stadiums and nothing compares.
    That said, I've heard from several people that they miss the argos tailgate. It was a small group, but they genuinely enjoyed it.
    We get too tied up thinking theres one solution for all. Some of like going to Joe's. Others would rather drive in and hang out in the parking lot.
    I like to drink a few roadies on the walk in. Too each their own.
    It doesnt have to be one or the other. This is adding an option, so it's a good thing. Nothing is being taken away
    I think the greater issue is that my friend can walk to the gate smoking weed, and it being totally legal, yet I technically cant drink a beer.
    Youíre right.

    The problem is that MLSE likely wouldnít be interested in allowing people to tailgate for the reasons listed in the thread, and that the legislation itself is pointless and the purpose of it is pretty blatantly telegraphed and divisive.

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    Even after MLSE cancelling the official tailgate last year, a small group of 20-30 Argo fans tailgate south of BMO along the north side of Lakeshore. Cops don't seem to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auzzy View Post
    So are people going to show up at the stadium 5 minutes before the game starts; tailgate for the 1st half; and then come inside to watch the game for the 2nd half?

    I can't imagine large numbers of Torontonians showing up early enough to a TFC game to tailgate. I think it's hard to replicate that tradition and atmosphere from the NFL. I don't have any personal experience there, but I've heard even in the NFL, the amount & importance of tailgaiting varies quite a bit between different stadiums, times of year, etc. But this announcement fits the provincial bread & circuses agenda.

    Now if it helps to revive/strengthen RPB tailgates, that would be great. But even there, it takes enough of us to help with the organization, and then to show up early enough for it to work. Life tends to get in the way.
    I've been to a few NFL and College football tailgates and the tailgates vary quite a lot. In Buffalo, you can drink in the stadium, so the tailgate I went to tamer than Bills-Mafia-drunk-guy-does-breaks-a-folding table videos you see (perhaps I was in the wrong area?). It seemed like a pre-game, before more drinking....esp in Buffalo. The CFB games I went to, there was no alcohol sold in the stadiums, so all the drinking was done before the game (frat houses were packed with parties outside). Some had full-blown BBQ setups, games, etc. Others tailgates were people having a drink or two around the car.

    The tailgates in the US seem to have grown organically. It could be hard to manufacture the tailgating culture in the BMO parking lots.

    I agree that this sounds more like a bread and circuses announcement with this government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stegosaurus View Post
    It seems more like it was designed for the Argos who struggle to draw numbers or minor league teams in other sports in non-Toronto regions of Ontario.
    Agreed, and it's just occurring to me that this might have some positive implications for CPL. Guess time will tell on that front.

    Quote Originally Posted by stegosaurus View Post
    I’d prefer fair-value, good quality products to be served at BMO over tailgating any day, but then again I don’t drive to the game.
    I feel like the only part that is missing is the fair-value - priced at $12.50 the tall cans are very inflated - as I am quite enjoying the Mill Street offerings available to me behind 208. And with the grill providing good dogs and sausages, we're practically there as far as tailgating options are concerned.

    I haven't tried the Pannini offerings yet but they look better than the silly hot dog variants they had last year.

    You know where there's a really good weekend long tailgate? The Indy 500...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfk View Post
    it could be hard to manufacture the tailgating culture in the BMO parking lots.
    Surely the aim isn't to get people to tailgate. Just to allow people to do so. I mean, it's not manufactured anymore than a blanket and a beer at Trininty Bellwoods is a good way to spend the day.

    It's nice to have a little more leeway to watch the sports the way most other cities do, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red4ever View Post
    Surely the aim isn't to get people to tailgate. Just to allow people to do so. I mean, it's not manufactured anymore than a blanket and a beer at Trininty Bellwoods is a good way to spend the day.

    It's nice to have a little more leeway to watch the sports the way most other cities do, no?
    The funny part about that is that last summer, IIRC, TPS was threatening to start ticketing people at T-B to remind them that yes, drinking in public is still illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stegosaurus View Post
    The funny part about that is that last summer, IIRC, TPS was threatening to start ticketing people at T-B to remind them that yes, drinking in public is still illegal.
    You are correct. There was also a convoy of officers waiting for patrons coming under the go bridge at atlantic. They always nab people on their way to the amphitheater.

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    I don't drink alcohol. Which I think is the first thought most people think when they hear tailgating. But I do like to BBQ, and would definitely tailgate, and make a great experience, by meeting fans, and have people come see the game of football (soccer) who normally wouldn't watch it. Gives an excuse to do something fun especially if a game is scheduled during the week.
    Truth be told, I became a Buffalo bills fan because the tailgating drew me to the sport originally. And then I understood how football worked after going to a few games. I was only a teenager back 16 years ago. And to this day I'll support that team even if they continue to lose.
    So as what original poster said "yes". I'm also all for it. I do believe it will draw non soccer fans in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul-collins View Post
    Agreed, and it's just occurring to me that this might have some positive implications for CPL. Guess time will tell on that front.


    I feel like the only part that is missing is the fair-value - priced at $12.50 the tall cans are very inflated - as I am quite enjoying the Mill Street offerings available to me behind 208. And with the grill providing good dogs and sausages, we're practically there as far as tailgating options are concerned.

    I haven't tried the Pannini offerings yet but they look better than the silly hot dog variants they had last year.

    You know where there's a really good weekend long tailgate? The Indy 500...

    my mate went to the Spurs match the other day at their new stadium, I asked how much a beer was. He had Heiniken at 4 pounds fifty. That's not even $8 cdn.

 

 

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