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    Quote Originally Posted by DinamoTFC View Post
    I'm starting to question Curtis' negotiation skills as a GM. Outside of the hagglund deal its always we're really close but then the deal never finishes. Hopefully he still has his advantage of knowing the ins an outs of the salary cap structure.
    They already tried to hold us to ransom once over Janson. You think we would learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    TFC 2019 player in-season moves/speculation/rumours
    Post your speculation/information/etc. here in this thread!

    Confirmed (by traditional media or the club) signings can get a separate single thread. All other "inside" and other information goes here.
    Hey Oldtimer, you should rename this thread - something like "Two weeks (and still waiting)"

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyDM View Post
    Hey Oldtimer, you should rename this thread - something like "Two weeks (and still waiting)"
    I'll consider it...


    in about two weeks.
    Last edited by Oldtimer; 07-05-2019 at 08:32 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DinamoTFC View Post
    I'm starting to question Curtis' negotiation skills as a GM. Outside of the hagglund deal its always we're really close but then the deal never finishes. Hopefully he still has his advantage of knowing the ins an outs of the salary cap structure.
    Curtis still has to prove himself IMO. Nothing in his history suggests that he's the ideal GM. He just was available when Bez bailed to go home.

    He's also pretty powerless as a GM. It's clear that Manning calls the shots about setting goals for Vanney and deciding if and when he's going to be replaced. Maybe he's just here to complete the deals decided by others? Not sure he's doing a good job even on that front.
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    Just a reminder that not many deals have been done yet for this window that doesn't open until Tuesday - and we did one of those. We have no clue whether the other deals being announced are equally like the Gonzalez one in that they just didn't get over the line before - but its not unheard of.

    Judge in a couple of weeks.

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    Question
    With Fraser's passing stats showing near perfection.
    Is there value in selling him at this young age?
    Using the money to buy cap space for a striker and develop/wait for another closer to Bradley's retirement

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    Players like Fraser are very very rare. If anything, at this rate, he's sold to Europe in 2020 - before is just too early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Ronaldo View Post
    Question
    With Fraser's passing stats showing near perfection.
    Is there value in selling him at this young age?
    Using the money to buy cap space for a striker and develop/wait for another closer to Bradley's retirement
    Fraser hasn't played enough to build his value. We'd be selling prematurely. I don't know what he'd go for right now but if he keeps this up it won't be close to what he's worth in 2-3 years.

    Moreover, Bradley is gradually slowing down/getting old, and Fraser is a ready-made replacement. Plus he's on our Supplemental Roster as a Homegrown Player and so he doesn't even count against the salary cap. Why give that up now?

    I will say I find the thought of Bradley returning from the Gold Cup and Fraser being demoted back to the bench depressing. I think maybe we should bench Delgado and have Bradley return to the #8 role he used to play for us back in 2014/2015.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notthesun View Post
    Fraser hasn't played enough to build his value. We'd be selling prematurely. I don't know what he'd go for right now but if he keeps this up it won't be close to what he's worth in 2-3 years.

    Moreover, Bradley is gradually slowing down/getting old, and Fraser is a ready-made replacement. Plus he's on our Supplemental Roster as a Homegrown Player and so he doesn't even count against the salary cap. Why give that up now?

    I will say I find the thought of Bradley returning from the Gold Cup and Fraser being demoted back to the bench depressing. I think maybe we should bench Delgado and have Bradley return to the #8 role he used to play for us back in 2014/2015.
    forgot about MLS's Homegrown Player rule

    Do we get more for selling a homegrown?

    And agreed, he needs to play. 1 less defender, MB playing deeper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notthesun View Post
    Fraser hasn't played enough to build his value. We'd be selling prematurely. I don't know what he'd go for right now but if he keeps this up it won't be close to what he's worth in 2-3 years.

    Moreover, Bradley is gradually slowing down/getting old, and Fraser is a ready-made replacement. Plus he's on our Supplemental Roster as a Homegrown Player and so he doesn't even count against the salary cap. Why give that up now?

    I will say I find the thought of Bradley returning from the Gold Cup and Fraser being demoted back to the bench depressing. I think maybe we should bench Delgado and have Bradley return to the #8 role he used to play for us back in 2014/2015.
    They could play a 4-2-3-1 with Fraser and Bradley as the double pivot but then where does Osorio fit in? Honestly its time for Bradley to go.

    I want to see a 4-3-3 with:

    Auro-Omar-Mavinga-Morrow
    (DM)Fraser-(AM)Pozuelo-(CM)Oso
    TAM Winger-Jozy-Shaffelburg

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Just a reminder that not many deals have been done yet for this window that doesn't open until Tuesday - and we did one of those. We have no clue whether the other deals being announced are equally like the Gonzalez one in that they just didn't get over the line before - but its not unheard of.

    Judge in a couple of weeks.
    Now you are sounding like Curtis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikmacdo View Post
    They could play a 4-2-3-1 with Fraser and Bradley as the double pivot but then where does Osorio fit in? Honestly its time for Bradley to go.

    I want to see a 4-3-3 with:

    Auro-Omar-Mavinga-Morrow
    (DM)Fraser-(AM)Pozuelo-(CM)Oso
    TAM Winger-Jozy-Shaffelburg
    Bradley is quality. Let's not forget that. The goals he scored early doors when we needed him showed he still has it. i think we would have won last night with him on the pitch.

    Interesting potential selection headaches. Oso, Bradley and Poz have been fixtures; Fraser, Deleon have earned playing time as has Schaffleberg (after he recovers from all the kicks he took last night). Thats six midfielders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyDM View Post
    Now you are sounding like Curtis
    I'm trying to sound like a person watching the rest of the league where most teams have done nothing but the supporter base is waiting to roast the braintrust until after the trade deadline.

    I agree with the 2 week sentiment - if nothing by the 23rd, I'm wondering what is going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyDM View Post
    Bradley is quality. Let's not forget that. The goals he scored early doors when we needed him showed he still has it. i think we would have won last night with him on the pitch.

    Interesting potential selection headaches. Oso, Bradley and Poz have been fixtures; Fraser, Deleon have earned playing time as has Schaffleberg (after he recovers from all the kicks he took last night). Thats six midfielders.

    The shaff needs playing time but not necessarily starts
    Would love to see him off the bench, blowing by players. He needs to work on using both feet and (like the rest of the team) taking some shots. Not everything is a cross, a few times he should have slotted a pass or two. A player like this would benefit from some time in lower league Europe. Portugal told us Hamilton wasn't the real deal, guess they were right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notthesun View Post
    Fraser hasn't played enough to build his value. We'd be selling prematurely. I don't know what he'd go for right now but if he keeps this up it won't be close to what he's worth in 2-3 years.

    Moreover, Bradley is gradually slowing down/getting old, and Fraser is a ready-made replacement. Plus he's on our Supplemental Roster as a Homegrown Player and so he doesn't even count against the salary cap. Why give that up now?

    I will say I find the thought of Bradley returning from the Gold Cup and Fraser being demoted back to the bench depressing. I think maybe we should bench Delgado and have Bradley return to the #8 role he used to play for us back in 2014/2015.
    Bradley was trash in 2014/15. I wouldn't let him roam that freely - that's not his strong suit. Keep him where he is - demote Delgado - try and slot Fraiser in more if you need another defensive mid option or for early CCL games to rest MB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabbronies View Post
    Bradley was trash in 2014/15. I wouldn't let him roam that freely - that's not his strong suit. Keep him where he is - demote Delgado - try and slot Fraiser in more if you need another defensive mid option or for early CCL games to rest MB.
    Nah he wasn't trash in that role, the team was just poorly constructed and had no defensive presence behind him when he pressed up. If Fraser becomes that permanent fixture I think it could work well.

    Fraser is clearly good enough to start regularly, we should try to make it happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notthesun View Post
    Nah he wasn't trash in that role, the team was just poorly constructed and had no defensive presence behind him when he pressed up. If Fraser becomes that permanent fixture I think it could work well.

    Fraser is clearly good enough to start regularly, we should try to make it happen.
    He's only played 1300 minutes in MLS. That's nothing. his experience is extremely limited. He's not ready to be a full time starter yet IMO. Especially not at the role he's looking to fill. Still too young and inexperienced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notthesun View Post
    Nah he wasn't trash in that role, the team was just poorly constructed and had no defensive presence behind him when he pressed up. If Fraser becomes that permanent fixture I think it could work well.

    Fraser is clearly good enough to start regularly, we should try to make it happen.
    You’re spot on in this series of posts.

    Fraser could be a good candidate for a European transfer if he keeps it up, but it’s far too soon and he’d need to see more minutes here. No use pawning him off for peanuts at the moment.

    He’s definitely shown himself suitable in the DM role, which is a good problem to have. The only two things I see are:

    1. He succumbs to the TFC goalkeeper curse,
    2. We now need to figure out what to do with all these midfielders.

    It’s a “good” problem to have, but in MLS even these happy problems can lead to bigger issues when you try to resolve them.

    I wish someone would come out and let us know what they see for the future of the team, because there doesn’t seem to be a clear direction. We’ve seen a few bright points during the international non-break, but taking in everything TFC has done since the cup win leaves me wondering what the actual intention is...

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    Fraser needs to play in Montreal - needs to feel that intensity oozing out of both the opponent's and his teammates. If he wants to be the man back there, he needs to do that in a hostile environment a bit more then an away game to a US crowd that doesn't really care about who the opponent is.

    If that means sitting Delgado, so be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabbronies View Post
    He's only played 1300 minutes in MLS. That's nothing. his experience is extremely limited. He's not ready to be a full time starter yet IMO. Especially not at the role he's looking to fill. Still too young and inexperienced.
    You need to give the kids mins to find out if they can hack it at MLS level. Fraser is 21. Either he needs mins with TFC or with another MLS club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Ronaldo View Post
    The shaff needs playing time but not necessarily starts
    Would love to see him off the bench, blowing by players. He needs to work on using both feet and (like the rest of the team) taking some shots. Not everything is a cross, a few times he should have slotted a pass or two. A player like this would benefit from some time in lower league Europe. Portugal told us Hamilton wasn't the real deal, guess they were right.
    I agree re Schaff. And Hamilton has the gift of goals. they jsut have to figure out how to use him - he was at his best with Akinola the one game they played as a two. he seems stuck right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Fraser needs to play in Montreal - needs to feel that intensity oozing out of both the opponent's and his teammates. If he wants to be the man back there, he needs to do that in a hostile environment a bit more then an away game to a US crowd that doesn't really care about who the opponent is.

    If that means sitting Delgado, so be it.
    I like that. Good call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyDM View Post
    I agree re Schaff. And Hamilton has the gift of goals. they jsut have to figure out how to use him - he was at his best with Akinola the one game they played as a two. he seems stuck right now.
    yah , thats what that team in portugal said. he can score but is missing the complete package. didnt have the drive to be a pro
    I love Hamilton but at some point we need to move on unless hes happy being a bench player.

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    Not that is my place but perhaps its time to move Delgado along. He's stagnating here and perhaps we can flip him for something worthwhile; even if its a little cap room. Fraser has proven he is capable. How a system with Bradley and Fraser will work should certainly be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kodiakTFC View Post
    Not that is my place but perhaps its time to move Delgado along. He's stagnating here and perhaps we can flip him for something worthwhile; even if its a little cap room. Fraser has proven he is capable. How a system with Bradley and Fraser will work should certainly be interesting.
    4-2-3-1. Where does Oso play in that? Chapman?

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    Well last night we played what amounted to a 2-3-5 (took me back to the 70's) so .

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyDM View Post
    4-2-3-1. Where does Oso play in that? Chapman?
    I think in that scenario we'd be more of a 5-4-1 with your backs/wingers playing up as needed. Could also sub one of the LB/RB and have Sheffelburg play higher up as a winger off of Altidore.

    Westberg
    Auro-Mavinga-Moor-Gonzalez-Morrow
    Bradley-Fraser
    Pozo-Oso
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    Quote Originally Posted by kodiakTFC View Post
    I think in that scenario we'd be more of a 5-4-1 with your backs/wingers playing up as needed. Could also sub one of the LB/RB and have Sheffelburg play higher up as a winger off of Altidore.

    Westberg
    Auro-Mavinga-Moor-Gonzalez-Morrow
    Bradley-Fraser
    Pozo-Oso
    Altidore
    That actually makes some sense. Good call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyDM View Post
    That actually makes some sense. Good call.
    Seems a little more natural for Auro and Morrow. Suited for subs too: Chapman for Oso, Hamilton for Altidore, Sheffelburg for Auro, etc.

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    No signings? No rumours?

 

 

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