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    Quote Originally Posted by notthesun View Post
    Bryan Ruiz just became a lot more realistic.
    Nah theyll go younger, someone who can either stick around for a minute and or be sold at a decent profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossington Mental Youth View Post
    Speculation. I doubt it's cuz they want to go cheap. Love Jozy but if he's playing one half to a third of the season he's not worth it imo
    It's more than speculation, I assure you.

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    Wouldnt be surprised if they were south american

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan View Post
    It's more than speculation, I assure you.
    Inside scoop?
    Guess we will see with future signings. NYRB were cheap because that was their goal from FO, not because of Ali Curtis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan View Post
    It's more than speculation, I assure you.
    Fuck. This club is really going to burn the good will it's built in the last 5 seasons to save money.

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    Ill wait and see before i believe the sky is falling. Gonna give Curtis a chance to prove himself like Bez did.

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    Wonder if the condition of the grass at BMO is factor in VV leaving, can't be easy on someone with bad knees

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    I don't think some people in MLSE management get yet that the city doesn't want another RSL - it wants a TFC with great players, top quality, get it done & win. Year after year quality can't be done on the cheap.

    Just like it didn't want cheap Blue Jays, it wanted spend a lot Blue Jays - Toronto is into winning, not building.

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    this club will not go cheap...they said it a 100 times...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    I don't think some people in MLSE management get yet that the city doesn't want another RSL - it wants a TFC with great players, top quality, get it done & win. Year after year quality can't be done on the cheap.

    Just like it didn't want cheap Blue Jays, it wanted spend a lot Blue Jays - Toronto is into winning, not building.
    I can see them go cheaper but not cheap. Youre 100% right, no one wants a team that doesnt win. Teams that spend in this league win.

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    I’ll take a wait-and-see approach here. Selling VV, the hiring of managers who worked for more budget outfits, really doesn’t mean anything... yet.

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    Like others have stated, I will give this a chance and see where the plan is. Just hope that something will fill that gap!
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    I don't believe they will go cheap either but I believe we will go young. The heavy schedule of the past couple years with CCL and long playoffs probably would have been dealt with better if we had a younger, more balanced squad.

    I totally expect a tear down after this season or maybe even this summer after the CCL is done but I am holding out all judgment on any Curtis moves until it all plays out. His work rebuilding NYRB from the youth up to what they are now earns him a little time to refresh our squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie View Post
    this club will not go cheap...they said it a 100 times...
    And that'd be the first time a corporation has lied..

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    Wheeler with some info on the VV deal

    Vasquez asked for it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Wheeler with some info on the VV deal

    Vasquez asked for it.


    As I figured. Probably reunite with Xavi and get a better retirement cheque than he would get here.

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    They wont be cheap.

    They just wont have $18M DP salary spend a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Areathrasher View Post
    They wont be cheap.

    They just wont have $18M DP salary spend a year.
    This

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    And that'd be the first time a corporation has lied..
    well i guess if they want a season ticket base of 23to 24 k to go down to 12 k then go ahead...tfc is a drop in the bucket for mlse

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    Losing Vazquez hard to take. It makes CCL seem that much tougher. Wish him well, glad that it was a move that he wanted. Would not want to close the door on his return in the future. VV off the bench on a farewell contract would be akin to Cheyrou off the bench. imho
    Maybe Seba plays AM? Double AA strikers? Altidore and Akinola?

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    This is an interesting re-read

    https://torontosun.com/sports/soccer...group-together

    I sure hope VV isn’t leaving because he isn’t buying what Manning is selling. Qatar is a big step down from MLS. I don't get why anybody would pay up for him.

    My hope is that, bizarrely, this could be a WC 2022 play for him. VV has never been capped for Spain. I have wondered on here before about him getting into the CMNT picture. oh well.
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    I've gotta wonder if the frequent cold/crappy weather, crappy pitch at BMO & other MLS fields, and extreme travel, might have been making things worse for Vazquez's back / leg / nerve issues.

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    Gutted to see VV go, but I get it; the re-tooling must begin this season for the sake of next season and beyond. Huge hole for Curtis to fill now, though. Oso won't fill VV's boots. The sale does open up a few doors.

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    stop the paranonia people,,,he is 32,he asked for the move,warm climate less travel and his barca friend is apparently coaching the club...players move in futbol thats life.he will be missed

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    From a quick look at the roster, we need at least 1 FW and a defensive minded MID (to help Fraser again this year).
    Another CB and 3rd GK would be great as well

    I feel as though we are switching to a 4-5-1 formation (or 4-3-3)

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    Vasquez will be missed, but the chances of him staying healthy and reverting to his 2017 form at his age were slim.

    The timing is unfortunate though, as it doesn't leave much time to find an adequate replacement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie View Post
    stop the paranonia people,,,he is 32,he asked for the move,warm climate less travel and his barca friend is apparently coaching the club...players move in futbol thats life.he will be missed
    Exactly. This is no reflection on TFC.

    What will be interesting to see is how our new GM will handle this. VV leaving makes a big hole to be filled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
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    What will be interesting to see is how our new GM will handle this. VV leaving makes a big hole to be filled.
    A hole they all knew about as the brass interviewed Curtis.

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    Wow you go into a full morning meeting and the whole world changes when you get out. This is a big blow to TFC. Maybe needed to happen due to age and injury, but there's simply no replacing VV. I'm getting very worried about the season all of a sudden.

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