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    Quote Originally Posted by ag futbol View Post
    A high cost. But, with the team committed to Osorio and Vasquez, how many technically sound but slow as a snail midfielders can this team commit to? We got overrun in the midfield frequently last year. Something has to change.
    I agree with you. I just think Marky will be an all star. But there is no free lunch, Urruti is a very good player who also had a down year in 2018.

    He will not come cheap.

    EDIT: Urruti is a domestic, surprisingly
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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    I agree with you. I just think Marky will be an all star. But there is no free lunch, Urruti is a very good player who also had a down year in 2018.

    He will not come cheap.

    EDIT: Urruti is a domestic, surprisingly
    Drew Moor for Urruti straight up would be fair I think

    Even Zavaleta plus some cash for Urruti would work well imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by ag futbol View Post
    A high cost. But, with the team committed to Osorio and Vasquez, how many technically sound but slow as a snail midfielders can this team commit to? We got overrun in the midfield frequently last year. Something has to change.
    Spelling police 🙂: Our Vazquez is not "Vasquez." Spelling it with an "s" is Mexican, and there's a player in Mexico who spells it that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    I can't believe they havn't taken this down
    I like the comments under the Urrutti jersey YouTube video...

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    Drew Moor for Urruti straight up would be fair I think

    Even Zavaleta plus some cash for Urruti would work well imo
    Why stop there? How about Ben Spencer, some towels, and a two-for-one hot dog coupon fo Urruti

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    Urruti is a proven MLS striker, a domestic, and is only 27.

    Forget the Zavaleta/Moor stuff. I doubt Delgado alone would be enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    Urruti is a proven MLS striker, a domestic, and is only 27.

    Forget the Zavaleta/Moor stuff. I doubt Delgado alone would be enough.
    Conveniently there have been recent comparables to Urruti in the market.

    1. Ramirez (27 years old, 600k salary, 23 goals/57 games) - moved for ~800k

    2. Nemeth (29 years old, 1m salary, 12 goals/58 games) - moved for 350k and first round pick

    I think it's safe to say he's not moving for Ramirez money but def not below Nemeth. Somewhere around 500-600k I think would be fair market value.

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    Marky is only 23, a USMNT and on a cap friendly $230 k contract. I don't think Urruti would be enough for Marky. I like them both as players but if I have to choose between the 2 I'm sticking with Marky, Urruti's $700 k is a chunk of cash to fit under the cap

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    Conveniently there have been recent comparables to Urruti in the market.

    1. Ramirez (27 years old, 600k salary, 23 goals/57 games) - moved for ~800k

    2. Nemeth (29 years old, 1m salary, 12 goals/58 games) - moved for 350k and first round pick

    I think it's safe to say he's not moving for Ramirez money but def not below Nemeth. Somewhere around 500-600k I think would be fair market value.
    If we are doing this for cash....

    Ramirez is definitely a good comp, Nemeth not so much, those two years that he is older are a big deal, plus he's an international.

    I think Urruti is worth more than Ramirez. Urruti has a much better strike rate than Ramirez, especially if you give him credit for 2017. Plus he did it for better teams.

    I think Dwyer is also a comp, at the upper end, btw. So that would imply something between 800-1600K.

    But I suspect they want a real player back. They were vulnerable in midfield, and presumably have another striker coming in.
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    Urruti rumour is Montreal. Let him go their and infuriate his teammates.

    I didn't like him in 2017 either, btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Urruti rumour is Montreal. Let him go their and infuriate his teammates.

    I didn't like him in 2017 either, btw.
    You mean like the way other teams supporters don’t like Seba?
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    Delgado had a pretty bad year, but is one of only a few in our MF who provides a bit of defensive cover. Especially lots of interceptions & stolen balls; starting the play that led to Jozy's goal in MLS Cup is one of many examples. Bradley isn't getting any faster either. (Plus we lost Hasler and Will Johnson earlier.) I think we need help in defensive midfield anyway; even more so if Delgado is part of any trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamilton_Red View Post
    I won’t be surprised to see Alexis Sanchez move to MLS in January. Not entirely sure that I’d want him at Toronto if it was possible.
    He's on 33 million USD per season plus a bunch of crazy bonuses until 2022. In what scenario do you see him giving that up to sign in MLS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBobSaget View Post
    He's on 33 million USD per season plus a bunch of crazy bonuses until 2022. In what scenario do you see him giving that up to sign in MLS?
    I just checked because this sounded absurd. Not only is it not absurd, you might be low. Crazy.

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    Well let's see if Bez has had something in mind. Half day trade window is open today from 9am to 1pm ET. If we're looking to make a trade within the league before the expansion draft it would need to be done soon.

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    Choke - pass. He’s poison for every team that he goes to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    You mean like the way other teams supporters don’t like Seba?
    No, I mean it in a he screws up attacks by straying offside or going where another guy is or by not passing the ball - 4 times each half.
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    If this tweet holds true, its same old same old for TFC today - Bez doesn't usually do anything on this day.

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    if there isnt any changes to our squad during the offseason, how can we expect to improve; Management needs to look from top to bottom and bottom to top on what is working and get rid of players who arent; because if we bring in the exact same team next year we will not be going to the playoffs regardless of injuries

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    Its just the half day window before the expansion draft.....chill!

    Plenty of time afterwards to make as many moves as we like.
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    I would be surprised if they are complacent. Given everything we’ve seen so far i’d expect a moderate about of change in the squad. Perhaps as much as we saw last season in terms of big pieces but also more of the depth players shuffled.

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    Urruti to the Impact for 75k, a first round pick and 50% of his transfer fee if he moves before the beginning of 2019 season

    What a fucking steal we should have been in for that, I'm actually a little pissed off right now
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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    Urruti to the Impact for 75k, a first round pick and 50% of his transfer fee if he moves before the beginning of 2019 season

    What a fucking steal we should have been in for that, I'm actually a little pissed off right now
    I'm not sure if Urruti wants to play for TFC, considering IIRC he wasn't happen with how he was traded from TFC.

    Knowing ex TFC strikers burning us, he'll probably score a hat trick against us
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yohan View Post
    I'm not sure if Urruti wants to play for TFC, considering IIRC he wasn't happen with how he was traded from TFC.

    Knowing ex TFC strikers burning us, he'll probably score a hat trick against us
    Totally get it. At the same time, all of those people from the GM down are long gone.

    Time for the return of Gilberto? Haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    Urruti to the Impact for 75k, a first round pick and 50% of his transfer fee if he moves before the beginning of 2019 season

    What a fucking steal we should have been in for that, I'm actually a little pissed off right now
    Talk is that something is in the works already to trigger the sell on conditions thus the good $ deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ag futbol View Post
    totally get it. At the same time, all of those people from the gm down are long gone.

    time for the return of gilberto? Haha
    yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redpunkfiddle View Post
    Talk is that something is in the works already to trigger the sell on conditions thus the good $ deal.
    Urruti is a great rental. The sell on part is even better.

    I agree with portu, we should have been in on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Areathrasher View Post
    yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
    I'm actually on board with this too haha!

    Hey we need someone with a rocket-shot if Aketxe's gone.

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    Should we also have been in on Akindele? I think maybe yes.
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    With a healthy squad Urruti would be a sub for us, but he's pretty expensive salary-wise. I don't know if that's a great fit.

    Akindele is more interesting to me as a depth piece.

 

 

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