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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBobSaget View Post
    I think you're right. Osorio I'm sure wants to see how he measure up in Europe/SA. He could have let his contract expire and sign anywhere on a free. But that's a leap of faith. With the TFC contract and he has some insurance, a fall back in case the move to the other club backfires.

    TFC could have lost him and any potential transfer fee so their position wasn't the best.

    Maybe there was an agreement to allow Osorio to test other leagues, if it works out TFC makes some transfer money, if it doesn't he continues on with TFC.
    Why would he want to go to South America? Brazil and Argentina leagues are good and the quality might still be a little better then MLS, but why go when you have guaranteed minutes at a good team in MLS?

    It seems risky with little reward.

    I can see why players would want to go improve their careers and join La Liga, EPL, Serie A, Ligue 1, Germany or Portugal team and maybe a top team outside of the big leagues like Besiktas or perhaps Russia... but moving to Holland, Mexico, China, Argentina or Brazil seems lateral or not just slightly ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defoe View Post
    Why would he want to go to South America? Brazil and Argentina leagues are good and the quality might still be a little better then MLS, but why go when you have guaranteed minutes at a good team in MLS?

    It seems risky with little reward.

    I can see why players would want to go improve their careers and join La Liga, EPL, Serie A, Ligue 1, Germany or Portugal team and maybe a top team outside of the big leagues like Besiktas or perhaps Russia... but moving to Holland, Mexico, China, Argentina or Brazil seems lateral or not just slightly ahead.
    Surely we couldn't fault Oso if he moved to Ajax, PSV, Boca, River Plate, Sao Paulo, etc etc

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    Juninho looks like an expensive risk that we are not in a position to take at the moment.

    Glad to see Irwin and Ricketts are being shown the door.

    I think Patterson-Sewel is more than capable of taking up the back-up role and therefore see bringing in a guy from Sao Paulo as unnecessary.

    Very happy to see they are working to get Auro permanently.

    A Janson loan extension would be good, but likely indicates that either the club don't think he's DP calibre or that we aren't getting rid of a DP.

    Moving Osorio on loan anywhere is ridiculous to me as we get literally nothing out of it, especially since I doubt we'd get a substantial loan fee.

    Aketxe is probably the stupidest signing Bez has ever made.

    I'd be upset to see Seba leave before his contract is up, but I don't think he should be given a long-term extension either so I'd understand if the club moved him.

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    Altidore tea leaves on Twitter overnight...

    Gignac re-upped at Tigres, and re tweets the club announcement with a nice jpg telling all his happiness and gratitude. Altidore replies “Congrats, see you very soon...”, using Gignac's nickname and some emojis that, maybe, imply a secret or something?

    Which Gignac replies to one minute later, with his own nickname for Jozy (“the Monster”), with same “see you very soon language” and weird emojis... it is only one of the two tweets, out of hundreds that Gignac's post gets, that Gignac replies to

    https://twitter.com/jozyaltidore/sta...690820608?s=21

    Now both are in CCL again, so they could mean that, although the draws aren’t set, and they are in the same pot, so no chance TFC play Tigres in first round .....
    Last edited by ensco; 11-22-2018 at 07:18 AM.
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    It could be they expect to play in the finals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defoe View Post
    Why would he want to go to South America? Brazil and Argentina leagues are good and the quality might still be a little better then MLS, but why go when you have guaranteed minutes at a good team in MLS?

    It seems risky with little reward.

    I can see why players would want to go improve their careers and join La Liga, EPL, Serie A, Ligue 1, Germany or Portugal team and maybe a top team outside of the big leagues like Besiktas or perhaps Russia... but moving to Holland, Mexico, China, Argentina or Brazil seems lateral or not just slightly ahead.
    He's said in the past that given his Colombian roots and his time with Nacional that he'd like another crack in South America one day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossington Mental Youth View Post
    Am I the only one that doesn't really rate the Colombian league? Have no doubt the top end is good and competing in Copa Libertadores but are middle Bottom end really that much better/competitive? Also any guarantee that DIM would go far? That he's more likely to be discovered by Europe in Colombia than in MLS? Asking honestly here. I could see Mexico or even Argentina being a step up but not as convinced by the Colombian league
    Who sells more players to Europe, Colombia or MLS?

    Ajax alone have bought 3 players straight from Colombia in the last 2 and half years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Areathrasher View Post
    Who sells more players to Europe, Colombia or MLS?

    Ajax alone have bought 3 players straight from Colombia in the last 2 and half years.
    Totally fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    Juninho looks like an expensive risk that we are not in a position to take at the moment.

    Glad to see Irwin and Ricketts are being shown the door.

    I think Patterson-Sewel is more than capable of taking up the back-up role and therefore see bringing in a guy from Sao Paulo as unnecessary.

    Very happy to see they are working to get Auro permanently.

    A Janson loan extension would be good, but likely indicates that either the club don't think he's DP calibre or that we aren't getting rid of a DP.

    Moving Osorio on loan anywhere is ridiculous to me as we get literally nothing out of it, especially since I doubt we'd get a substantial loan fee.

    Aketxe is probably the stupidest signing Bez has ever made.

    I'd be upset to see Seba leave before his contract is up, but I don't think he should be given a long-term extension either so I'd understand if the club moved him.

    where did you see Tois leaving? I can't find it anywhere on the internet??

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevep View Post
    where did you see Tois leaving? I can't find it anywhere on the internet??
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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    Altidore tea leaves on Twitter overnight...

    Gignac re-upped at Tigres, and re tweets the club announcement with a nice jpg telling all his happiness and gratitude. Altidore replies “Congrats, see you very soon...”, using Gignac's nickname and some emojis that, maybe, imply a secret or something?

    Which Gignac replies to one minute later, with his own nickname for Jozy (“the Monster”), with same “see you very soon language” and weird emojis... it is only one of the two tweets, out of hundreds that Gignac's post gets, that Gignac replies to

    https://twitter.com/jozyaltidore/sta...690820608?s=21

    Now both are in CCL again, so they could mean that, although the draws aren’t set, and they are in the same pot, so no chance TFC play Tigres in first round .....
    Tigres fans are having some fun with this.


    And the BS rumor accounts are running with it
    Last edited by Areathrasher; 11-22-2018 at 12:52 PM.

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    Whats interesting is it says in exchange for Duenas and Valencia...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KGH View Post
    Whats interesting is it says in exchange for Duenas and Valencia...
    This lad is saying Valencia and Sosa...


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    jozy is a beast . would be very very sad to lose him. Very

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    I like Jozy but this deal is too good to pass up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuku View Post
    I like Jozy but this deal is too good to pass up.
    Which one? Valencia Duenas or Valencia Sosa?

    Sosa is basically a much older Janson

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    Why does Jozy have to be a fucking swap deal, just sell the guy for god sake. Valencia is nice but can obviously do better.

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    Please be Enner Valencia

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    Why does Jozy have to be a fucking swap deal, just sell the guy for god sake. Valencia is nice but can obviously do better.
    This swap makes a ton of sense if we're switching to a 4-3-3 as the primary look.

    Also, just saying, you could have word for word said the same thing about the Defoe for Altidore swap... it's not necessarily a bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Areathrasher View Post
    Which one? Valencia Duenas or Valencia Sosa?

    Sosa is basically a much older Janson
    The Valencia, Duenas one.

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    https://www.football-italia.net/1310...-wants-toronto

    Giovinco's agent speaking again about Giovinco's desire to stay with TFC. But this is new information: he says we have an option on Giovinco's contract after this season.

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    it would be stupid to let him go on free.sell him now or sign him

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevep View Post
    where did you see Tois leaving? I can't find it anywhere on the internet??
    Think the writing has been on the way for a min. Lovely fella, great Canadian but a sprinter who happens to play soccer professionally. Served his purpose last season but is no longer of use.

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    So today is the day for the options to be released....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Areathrasher View Post
    So today is the day for the options to be released....
    Vancouver has dropped the option on Brek Shea. Thought his overuse was the reason Robinson was fired? Or was that the reason he was in VWC 2018 season?

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    Zambrano is speaking again about Osorio: https://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/colo...-loan-request/

    Now saying he's made the loan request with TFC and is waiting to hear back.

    He is really publicly banging this drum. Maybe Osorio wants to go and we want to keep him, so Zambrano is turning to the press to pressure Bez?

    I find this very weird with how seemingly transparent Zambrano is being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notthesun View Post
    Zambrano is speaking again about Osorio: https://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/colo...-loan-request/

    Now saying he's made the loan request with TFC and is waiting to hear back.

    He is really publicly banging this drum. Maybe Osorio wants to go and we want to keep him, so Zambrano is turning to the press to pressure Bez?

    I find this very weird with how seemingly transparent Zambrano is being.
    I will be very disappointed in the weakness of the front office if they let Oso go on loan

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    Quote Originally Posted by notthesun View Post
    Zambrano is speaking again about Osorio: https://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/colo...-loan-request/

    Now saying he's made the loan request with TFC and is waiting to hear back.

    He is really publicly banging this drum. Maybe Osorio wants to go and we want to keep him, so Zambrano is turning to the press to pressure Bez?

    I find this very weird with how seemingly transparent Zambrano is being.
    Osorio doesn't want to go anywhere and is focused on getting healed up, rested and ready to go for the CCL.

    Also, there's no way I can see the TFC brass letting him go on loan for a year after just signing that big contract.
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    For me the timing doesn't work, I don't mind a loan if its what Oso wants to do, but I want Oso for another Champs league run which would run past the March time frame he is wanted for

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Osorio doesn't want to go anywhere and is focused on getting healed up, rested and ready to go for the CCL.

    Also, there's no way I can see the TFC brass letting him go on loan for a year after just signing that big contract.
    TFC/MLS is a better league/team then Indepentiente Medellin/Columbia Liga Agulia in my opinion... And even if this team is on par with middle league MLS teams it just seems so lateral for Osorio unless i'm way off base here.

 

 

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