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    Quote Originally Posted by James17930 View Post
    Wow. You guys think I'm overreacting, but I think many of you are being way too optimistic. Plus, as usual, no one seemed to bother reading this part of my post:

    So what's the best we can hope for? That we can scrounge enough points together to at least stay in the playoff picture while everyone gets healthy; seems that will be around late July/early August. Then, even if we're back to full strength, it'll take them another month probably to get back into the groove, so if – and that's a big IF – that can happen, then maybe we can get hot in September and try to ride some momentum into the playoffs.

    But if we lose any of the next few games, I think we're just totally finished. We might even be already.


    I know we had a slow start last year, but the major difference is that we were relatively healthy then. It took the guys some time to get warmed up, but they were all doing it together. Right now we have just way too many guys injured to hope to be competitive game-in, game-out. Everyone keeps saying 'Bradley is a revelation' at CB, but c'mon, can we really think that's a good thing mid-term, or even short-term?

    And do you guys really think I want us to fail? Obviously not. I'm just responding to what I'm seeing and what I'm feeling watching this team at the moment. Sure, Seattle only had 2 shots on net, but they scored with those shots. Our attack, however, seemed boring and anemic; without Jozy, we had no hold-up play at all, and it was way too easy for Seattle to stifle our ball movement by just putting everyone behind the ball. Teams have learned how to play us, and without all our big guns to be really creative and change things up, any decently organized team can handle us fairly professionally.

    And think about this – what's our record away at NE? We pretty much have to expect a loss on Sat, right? And then again, almost all our 'games in hand' will be losses.

    We are a better team when we play desperately, and I know it's early-ish in the season, but at this point we need to get a bit of desperation into our game or using all these second-stringers just isn't going to work.
    Well since we get another week of this thread I'll bite:

    It's not your content as much as your thread title and definition of a season. It infers there's nothing left to see if we're not going to win everything, or at least the SS, which would most likely be found out first.

    That's why most are responding to so flippantly.

    I want a win streak to get back on track for a back to back SS but the season won't be over with Vcup still coming and there's pussplops for people.

    Hang in there before you shut off the monitor on the entire season. And maybe keep the pessimism in game thread talks and you wouldn't see this kind of response to a dread thread this early in the season.
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    Murph said it best last night


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    You know when I am going to care about the standings?

    After the WC break. Red Bulls, July 1. We should have most everyone back. New pitch. Playoff bad blood hangover.

    Just tell me what it will take to get to 6th and 4th in the east that day. I don’t care if we are 20 points back. You watch. It’ll be game on then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    You know when I am going to care about the standings?

    After the WC break. Red Bulls, July 1. We should have most everyone back. New pitch. Playoff bad blood hangover.

    Just tell me what it will take to get to 6th and 4th in the east that day. I don’t care if we are 20 points back. You watch. It’ll be game on then.
    A very common sense response.

    Unfortunately the TFC fanbase is filled with so many who were conditioned by years of failure to develop "Post TFC Stress Disorder." Rational thinking would say that all that unbelievable failure year after year was under previous administrations who were almost completely cleared out by Tim L and the current TFC is unrelated to the old TFC, but fear isn't usually rational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    A very common sense response.

    Unfortunately the TFC fanbase is filled with so many who were conditioned by years of failure to develop "Post TFC Stress Disorder." Rational thinking would say that all that unbelievable failure year after year was under previous administrations who were almost completely cleared out by Tim L and the current TFC is unrelated to the old TFC, but fear isn't usually rational.
    I would say this is more of a Toronto thing then a TFC thing in particular, but yes the fanbase rides a trophy or bust attitude. Yes things aren't in the right state right now but neither is our team, the WC will give our team a much needed break to recuperate.
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    fyi: according to oddsmakers the latest outright odds have us a solid 3rd or 4th place finish.

    http://www.oddsportal.com/soccer/usa/mls/outrights/

    Atlanta, NYCFC 1st and 2nd (interchangeable)
    TFC, NYRB 3rd and 4th (interchangeable)
    Orlando, Columbus 5th and 6th (interchangeable)

    also note: pretty good odds for a TFC victory on Friday

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    Let's all look on the bright side here - we will veryt likely play on the road in the MLS Cup Final. Epic Road Trip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevep View Post
    fyi: according to oddsmakers the latest outright odds have us a solid 3rd or 4th place finish.

    http://www.oddsportal.com/soccer/usa/mls/outrights/

    Atlanta, NYCFC 1st and 2nd (interchangeable)
    TFC, NYRB 3rd and 4th (interchangeable)
    Orlando, Columbus 5th and 6th (interchangeable)

    also note: pretty good odds for a TFC victory on Friday
    Follow the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevy View Post
    Let's all look on the bright side here - we will veryt likely play on the road in the MLS Cup Final. Epic Road Trip.
    I already like the sound of this!
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    Another month or so like this past month or so and it won’t be a joke anymore.

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    This Thread Could Very Well Be Over Already too.

    But we all keep bumping it.

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    We've been without any of our starting CB's, no Jozy, guys playing out of position.

    We can easily right this ship the closer we get to our "regular" starting 11.

    Man games lost to injury is such an overlooked stat.

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    After last night's victory, can we please close this thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redcoe15 View Post
    After last night's victory, can we please close this thread?
    Not yet. Not yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redcoe15 View Post
    After last night's victory, can we please close this thread?
    If nobody posts, it will go away of its own accord.

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    Okay. No more posts. Got it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red4ever View Post
    Nobody post in here.
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    Okay. No more posts. Got it.
    No more? Ok, I think I understand..

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    You’re saying no more posts? Do I have that right?

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    This thread will go away by itself, if no more posts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    You know when I am going to care about the standings?

    After the WC break. Red Bulls, July 1. We should have most everyone back. New pitch. Playoff bad blood hangover.

    Just tell me what it will take to get to 6th and 4th in the east that day. I don’t care if we are 20 points back. You watch. It’ll be game on then.
    Yep. Focus on getting healthy, accept that we are unlikely to have another record-breaker of a season, and look toward the MLS Cup.

    But man, saying the season "might already be over" ten days into May, is just absurdity.
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    Pretty sure Seattle had the same number of points (maybe 1 less) after the same number of games last year. This is the beauty of MLS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonO View Post
    Pretty sure Seattle had the same number of points (maybe 1 less) after the same number of games last year. This is the beauty of MLS.
    Yep Seattle had 10 points after 10 Games... DC had 11 and LA had 12.

    It isn't an indicator of anything. we could turn it around or we could continue to play badly and allow goals in the first 10 minutes. Or the boys could give their heads a shake and we can turn it around. Time will tell...

    They should never have been allowed to get into the mentality the have been in since basically the Colorado Home game back in February.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonO View Post
    Pretty sure Seattle had the same number of points (maybe 1 less) after the same number of games last year. This is the beauty of MLS.
    This is true. However the east is much more competitive and stronger than the west is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaEatingYeti View Post
    This thread will go away by itself, if no more posts?
    This is still true

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidvan View Post
    This is still true
    What is? Explain it to me via post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red4ever View Post
    What is? Explain it to me via post.
    This is still true - it will die, if no more posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidvan View Post
    This is still true - it will die, if no more posts.
    Excellent post this! The thread will die in an absence of posts!

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    Can we rename this the logical paradox thread?

    The next sentence is true. The previous sentence is false.
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    I think we're in the middle of pulling a Portland.

 

 

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