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    Default MLS Champ vs. Mexican Champions - Sept 19

    https://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/majo...xicos-liga-mx/


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    Potential TFC Tigres rematch

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    I wonder how they decided who gets to host, and if the fact that it's hear this year means it'll be played in Mexico next year.
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    Boo this. Play TFC II.

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    This will be right in the heart of the Supporters Shield race ... Boo

    Also, we already have a Champions League, so whats the point of this? Other than dinheiro, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wopchop View Post
    This will be right in the heart of the Supporters Shield race ... Boo

    Also, we already have a Champions League, so whats the point of this? Other than dinheiro, of course.
    This is with MX in mind after they have THEIR 2 champs play each other. It's actually pretty nice to think MX would like keep comparing their champs to ours. Even after more than half a season after the MLS side won.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben - D.O.W. View Post
    I wonder how they decided who gets to host, and if the fact that it's hear this year means it'll be played in Mexico next year.
    The Moneygrab Cup will always be hosted by MLS, I'm sure, for financial reasons.

    Another cup to store in the furnace room, along with the Trillium Cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    The Moneygrab Cup will always be hosted by MLS, I'm sure, for financial reasons.

    Another cup to store in the furnace room, along with the Trillium Cup.
    Completely agree on that it will always be hosted by the MLS Cup winner. Have we not seen something like his tried before with the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_SuperLiga. It was scrapped back in 2010 due to the growth of Champions League. Guess with the group stage being scrapped they decided they have dates to fill, dollars to be made. Just looking at the date the lads take on Galaxy at home the Saturday before and on the road to NYRB the Saturday after, making for a busy, congested week.

    I am sure the league will not want the optics of the Reds running out a reserve/TFC2 side for this match, will be interesting to see their approach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    The Moneygrab Cup will always be hosted by MLS, I'm sure, for financial reasons.

    Another cup to store in the furnace room, along with the Trillium Cup.
    It's an attention grab not a money grab.
    Liga MX is by far the most popular league in the US and gets upto 2 million viewers for some games, compared to the 500,000 for the EPL and big MLS games
    This competition is to attract some of them to MLS.

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    You know what? The buggers finally figured out how to mash a friendly in there that will work.

    I know that this will not be true for a meaningful subset on here, but I suspect this game can be a ticket sales and TV ratings success.

    Can we move the Saturday Sept 15 Galaxy game to the 8th or 11th or 12th? Both TFC and the Galaxy are off Sept 1-15. I am sure there is a FIFA break there, but Bradley and Altidore and LA’s Mexican players can skip whatever meaningless friendly they have going on then, in the spirit of building this MLS-Liga MX partnership...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    You know what? The buggers finally figured out how to mash a friendly in there that will work.

    I know that this will not be true for a meaningful subset on here, but I suspect this game can be a ticket sales and TV ratings success.

    Can we move the Saturday Sept 15 Galaxy game to the 8th or 11th or 12th? Both TFC and the Galaxy are off Sept 1-15. I am sure there is a FIFA break there, but Bradley and Altidore and LA’s Mexican players can skip whatever meaningless friendly they have going on then, in the spirit of building this MLS-Liga MX partnership...
    Good idea.

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    Yawn.

    CCL is the only thing that matters. This is a cash grab, as has been stated. At least when they tried Superliga there was no CCL, so it had a quasi-good reason for existence. This new thing is just pointless.

    I hope someone at TFC speaks out against this.

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    Well Greg at the moment is giving it positive lip service, which I would totally expect. I wonder if this will actually be a considered a friendly or will it be positioned like the Super Cups are in Europe as an office match all for optics.

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    Vanney on the Campeones Cup: “Initially people won’t know what to make of it. But I think it will become one of the bigger events. There’s a fair bit of hoopla around us playing Tigres right now. We look forward to it. Another good game in our schedule." #TFCLive


    Quote Originally Posted by James17930 View Post
    Yawn.

    CCL is the only thing that matters. This is a cash grab, as has been stated. At least when they tried Superliga there was no CCL, so it had a quasi-good reason for existence. This new thing is just pointless.

    I hope someone at TFC speaks out against this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red CB Toronto View Post
    Well Greg at the moment is giving it positive lip service, which I would totally expect. I wonder if this will actually be a considered a friendly or will it be positioned like the Super Cups are in Europe as an office match all for optics.

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    Vanney on the Campeones Cup: “Initially people won’t know what to make of it. But I think it will become one of the bigger events. There’s a fair bit of hoopla around us playing Tigres right now. We look forward to it. Another good game in our schedule." #TFCLive
    I posted this in another thread:

    "Someone brought up a good point on MLS.com ... if it's the MLS Cup winner playing in the game, that could potentially be only the 12 best team in MLS during the previous regular season. Plus the game is almost a year removed from them winning it."

    If they're going to insist on doing this, they need to maybe re-think the setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James17930 View Post
    I posted this in another thread:

    "Someone brought up a good point on MLS.com ... if it's the MLS Cup winner playing in the game, that could potentially be only the 12 best team in MLS during the previous regular season. Plus the game is almost a year removed from them winning it."

    If they're going to insist on doing this, they need to maybe re-think the setup.
    You mean like the Rapids being in the round of 16 of the CCL this season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    You mean like the Rapids being in the round of 16 of the CCL this season?
    Yeah, something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James17930 View Post
    Yawn.

    CCL is the only thing that matters. This is a cash grab, as has been stated. At least when they tried Superliga there was no CCL, so it had a quasi-good reason for existence. This new thing is just pointless.

    I hope someone at TFC speaks out against this.
    The SuperLiga and the CCL were concurrent tournaments, in fact the teams that qualified for the SuperLiga were the best MLS which did not qualify for the CCL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James17930 View Post
    Yawn.

    CCL is the only thing that matters. This is a cash grab, as has been stated. At least when they tried Superliga there was no CCL, so it had a quasi-good reason for existence. This new thing is just pointless.

    I hope someone at TFC speaks out against this.
    But I think its more for the teams that win MLS cup and quickly exit the CCL. It happens. Our sitch is rare that we won the MLS Cup, The Shield and the Vcup. So it seems most redundant.
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    Aside from injuries and possibly crammed schedules, etc - it is a late season game against a VERY good team, which can only be helpful as teams wind out the stretch and head into the playoffs. It might gear up the compete level and keep us in check, especially if the playoff spot and/or shield is already clinched by then.

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    Why not do MLS all-stars vs Liga MX all-stars

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenRhodes23 View Post
    Why not do MLS all-stars vs Liga MX all-stars
    This is actually part of the agreement from what I've seen - one of the future all star games will be MLS all-stars vs Liga MX all-stars. Not sure yet when that will be though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenRhodes23 View Post
    Why not do MLS all-stars vs Liga MX all-stars
    Please no.

    ASG are the worst kind of friendlies IMO
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    At the end of the day there will be a Super Americas League (MLS, MEX & South America) that will rival Uefa.

    I can see shitty small Canadian teams along with Bolivian Honduran etc. having their National "b" Leagues.....

    The Super Americas League with a NA & SA divided into 4 divisions of 20 elite teams with no borders would be a cash Cow giant

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedsYNWA View Post
    At the end of the day there will be a Super Americas League (MLS, MEX & South America) that will rival Uefa.

    I can see shitty small Canadian teams along with Bolivian Honduran etc. having their National "b" Leagues.....

    The Super Americas League with a NA & SA divided into 4 divisions of 20 elite teams with no borders would be a cash Cow giant
    That's a nice dream, but I don't know if it will happen any time soon. The better MLS first teams are starting to be able to play with the good Mexican teams in the CL, appearntly, but from there to playing in a league against them over the course of a season is a different beast. The depth and resources of the big Mexican clubs are far beyond what MLS teams can bring to bear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedsYNWA View Post
    At the end of the day there will be a Super Americas League (MLS, MEX & South America) that will rival Uefa.

    I can see shitty small Canadian teams along with Bolivian Honduran etc. having their National "b" Leagues.....

    The Super Americas League with a NA & SA divided into 4 divisions of 20 elite teams with no borders would be a cash Cow giant
    LOL this again.

    As we can see by the numerous posts afterward I think its been mulled over.

    You may be right eventually. I'll just enjoy our regions growth till then.

    Look at the new CONCACAF League. Within 2 years we'll have the worlds largest (most numerous) region sorted into levels that all nations can follow and find their place to climb the ladder and leagues.

    It's what I've been waiting for. What you and others have said for a decade now feels like giving up to me.

    Our Champions League seems to be getting the job done. Interest in Mexico to beat US(and Canadian) teams is strong and they have their invitational Libertadores. I was lucky to witness it firsthand this week.

    I have no need to see SA teams to validate competition in our region. And they certainly don't give a shit about our teams.

    But it would just be about $$$ if it were to happen anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spe18 View Post
    This is actually part of the agreement from what I've seen - one of the future all star games will be MLS all-stars vs Liga MX all-stars. Not sure yet when that will be though.
    I don't mind this idea. The All Star Game is already pretty lame, but at least this idea sounds entertaining.

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    Well this game just got a bit more interesting... especially if Tigres is the team that comes to town

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoodson View Post
    Well this game just got a bit more interesting... especially if Tigres is the team that comes to town
    I agree. If it is Tigres, we could be blessed with an amazing game.

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    ^That superleague idea ... it would take revolution for that to happen. Literally.

    The bigger clubs cannot just break free from their national federations. This isn't Europe. There would be riots. Without exaggeration.

    The degree to which soccer clubs in South America are part of the political and social fabric, and they and their supporters have organized crime links... I mean, fuggadaboutit

    I would just like to see the top two or three MLS teams in Copa Libertadores.
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