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    So to confirm.
    If you pick a player during Stage 1, you have to pick up whatever option cost the previous team had already signed. But when you get a player during Stage 2 you get to re-negotiate the wage??

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    So we have 18 players signed, with up to 12 more spots to fill.
    We have 4 international spots open. We have 5 of the 3 Canadians domestics we need.

    The only player I could see being dealt is Clint Irwin.

    Of the out of contract players, I could see them retaining Zavaleta (very likely), Beitashour, Cooper, and Cheyrou (or retire). Alseth and Endoh very likely gone IMO due to the fact they take up international spots. Aubrey, Camargo, Spencer could get TFCII deals. Pais and Hernandez gone as well.

    Goalkeepers
    1) Alex Bono
    2) Clint Irwin
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    Left Back
    3) Justin Morrow
    4) Ashtone Morgan (CDN)
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    Centre Backs
    5) Drew Moor
    6) Nick Hagglund
    7) Chris Mavinga (INTL)
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    Right Back
    8) Nicholas Hasler (INTL)
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    Midfielders
    9) Michael Bradley
    10) Victor Vasquez (INTL)
    11) Marky Delgado
    12) Jonathan Osorio (CDN)
    13) Jay Chapman (CDN)
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    Strikers
    14) Sebastian Giovinco (INTL)
    15) Jozy Altidore
    16) Tosaint Ricketts (CDN)
    17)Jordan Hamilton (CDN)
    18) Ayo Akinola


    Out of Contract:
    GK
    Mark Pais

    DF
    Eriq Zavaleta
    Steven Beitashour
    Brandon Aubrey
    Oyvind Alseth (INTL)
    Jason Hernandez

    MF
    Armando Cooper (INTL)
    Benoit Cheyrou (INTL)
    Tsubasa Endoh (INTL)
    Sergio Carmargo (CDN)

    FW
    Ben Spencer

    Updates:
    Akinola signed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpexxx View Post
    So to confirm.
    If you pick a player during Stage 1, you have to pick up whatever option cost the previous team had already signed. But when you get a player during Stage 2 you get to re-negotiate the wage??
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    @rydermike - It seems to me we require a RB and midfield depth. I'd be happy to bring back Beitashour and Cooper honestly. If we upgrade, that's great. But i'm not expecting anything huge this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    There has to be change, that's inevitable, but there is no reason to do anything in the offseason that isn't a Vazquez level upgrade.
    I rate Victor perfectly on equal level with Seba, Jozy and Michael.
    In my eyes we have played this whole season with 4 DP-s.

    So picking up even a single player of that quality IMO is almost impossible, and not even imagining two guys of that same quality.
    (2 other guys with Victor's quality would make us clearly the best team of North and Central America.)

    I think we should be happy picking up 2 players with the same value like Morrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaEatingYeti View Post
    I rate Victor perfectly on equal level with Seba, Jozy and Michael.
    In my eyes we have played this whole season with 4 DP-s.

    So picking up even a single player of that quality IMO is almost impossible, and not even imagining two guys of that same quality.
    (2 other guys with Victor's quality would make us clearly the best team of North and Central America.)

    I think we should be happy picking up 2 players with the same value like Morrow.

    ^^ Agreed, but I think the goal is to have 4 DPs (giovinco, jozy, bradley vasquez) and 7 guys as valuable as Morrow (Morrow, Bono and Delgado will improve, Mavinga and Moor already there... a RB and a LM. Then a bench of Ricketts, Osorio, Zavaleta, Hagglund, Hasler, Chapman, Irwin is just unbelievable

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    Mavinga was a crucial addition as well. To go from 39 GA to 37 GA and at the same time essentially moving from 4-4-2 to 3-5-2 is some achievement. Keeping tight at the back while allowing for attacks from the wings and through the middle was a beautiful thing - built the platform for Vasquez and the team to score 74 goals. If some other team wants to Win the MLS Cup next year they are going to have to come to Toronto in December to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaEatingYeti View Post
    I rate Victor perfectly on equal level with Seba, Jozy and Michael.
    In my eyes we have played this whole season with 4 DP-s.

    So picking up even a single player of that quality IMO is almost impossible
    Nothing is impossible with $4 million TAM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamilton_Red View Post
    Mavinga was a crucial addition as well. To go from 39 GA to 37 GA and at the same time essentially moving from 4-4-2 to 3-5-2 is some achievement. Keeping tight at the back while allowing for attacks from the wings and through the middle was a beautiful thing - built the platform for Vasquez and the team to score 74 goals. If some other team wants to Win the MLS Cup next year they are going to have to come to Toronto in December to do it.
    Yes. Mavinga really needs to be lauded as a fantastic pick-up as well. If not quite equal to Vasquez, probably almost as important in a different way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonc View Post
    Nothing is impossible with $4 million TAM!
    Actually, on top of the 1.2 mil. we had, and the 2.8 just added (making the 4 mil. your referenced), we can use 2019's 2.8 TAM for the upcoming season (total of $6.8 million)… just have to be careful not to find ourselves in another Laba situation, although pundits are saying it's quite likely we see another increase, come then.

    To be fair, they also thought a fourth DP would be introduced, when we brought Bradley in, with Laba the odd man out, and we know how that ended…

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    Let is bring Laba back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by michaeltfc91 View Post
    ^^ Agreed, but I think the goal is to have 4 DPs (giovinco, jozy, bradley vasquez) and 7 guys as valuable as Morrow (Morrow, Bono and Delgado will improve, Mavinga and Moor already there... a RB and a LM. Then a bench of Ricketts, Osorio, Zavaleta, Hagglund, Hasler, Chapman, Irwin is just unbelievable
    With his performance in the playoffs, particularly the final, Osorio is a starter now and is clearly seen as such by Vanney. I also think we are going to see much more of Hagglund. Remember how dominant he was in the air against Montreal last year? No one else on the roster brings that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luanda View Post
    Let is bring Laba back!
    But where would Laba fit in all of this?..

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    Toronto FC Sign Ayo Akinola

    Source: https://www.torontofc.ca/post/2017/1...gn-ayo-akinola

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    Sources from TorontoFc instagram.

    Toronto Fc sign USA International and homegrown Ayo Akinola!
    Welcome to Toronto

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFC07 View Post
    Toronto FC Sign Ayo Akinola

    Source: https://www.torontofc.ca/post/2017/1...gn-ayo-akinola
    Holy cow, Ayo was born in 2000! Man I feel old

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    Seems obvious he'd get a HGP deal, but thinking more about it, this is a big deal. His profile went way up recently and likely had interest from European clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Detroit_TFC View Post
    Seems obvious he'd get a HGP deal, but thinking more about it, this is a big deal. His profile went way up recently and likely had interest from European clubs.
    This is a huge signing. He was expected to go to a team in Germany or Holland, as there are European suitors who think he can play right away, ala Pulisic or Davies.

    Very happy with this. Makes up for losing Rahim.

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    I'm really pleasantly surprised, I considered it a given he was going to go to Europe. This is big to be able to hold onto him for a bit. I bet the season we just had was a big reason he decided to stick around.

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    What about Hasler??? He seemed to be a solid utility player for the mid and the back.

    Just saw him there.
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    I would expect them to re-sign Zaveleta. We need another CB experienced in our system/style.

    Cooper, is good depth in the midfield.

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    He's Ooola
    Ayo Akinola
    Ayo Akinooolaaa...

    Well that's his song sorted lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trane View Post
    What about Hasler??? He seemed to be a solid utility player for the mid and the back.

    Just saw him there.
    Hasler was already under contract for next year. His salary is sure to jump up a bit though.

    https://www.torontofc.ca/post/2017/1...ionship-season

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    Quote Originally Posted by notthesun View Post
    I'm really pleasantly surprised, I considered it a given he was going to go to Europe. This is big to be able to hold onto him for a bit. I bet the season we just had was a big reason he decided to stick around.
    This is great news! Definitely makes up for losing Raheem, who I really hope is successful in Montreal. If Ayo is as good as projected I can see him being sold in few years. I believe under the new rules when a team sells their own homegrown/academy products they receive the full payment, as opposed to some of the transfer fees going to say the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notthesun View Post
    I'm really pleasantly surprised, I considered it a given he was going to go to Europe. This is big to be able to hold onto him for a bit. I bet the season we just had was a big reason he decided to stick around.
    Think about it: It's a lot easier to get to the Club World Cup through CONCACAF than through UEFA. Should make up for Raheem's loss, but is he better? Still unproven at MLS level I guess we'll see him in preseason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Initial B View Post
    Think about it: It's a lot easier to get to the Club World Cup through CONCACAF than through UEFA. Should make up for Raheem's loss, but is he better? Still unproven at MLS level I guess we'll see him in preseason.
    This!
    For TFC in this coming season how the heck can be a 17 years old more useful, or even at the same level like a well tested 22 years old should have been, like Raheem?
    Unless he is some sensational wonder kid...

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    Until the club reaches an agreement or disagreement with Beitashour and Zavaleta this is going to be a real slow off-season.

    No way they make any salary budget relevant moves before they know how those two are going to impact the budget.

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    Good teams lose players


    but bad teams lose even more players

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    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaEatingYeti View Post
    This!
    For TFC in this coming season how the heck can be a 17 years old more useful, or even at the same level like a well tested 22 years old should have been, like Raheem?
    Unless he is some sensational wonder kid...
    Well perhaps those that are more learned than you and I have already figured that out, what I mean is that those that are getting paid to evaluate players are making the decisions, not us Video Game Virtual managers, lol

 

 

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