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    Default 2017 Playoff Tickets & 2018 Season Ticket Renewals

    It looks as though the 2017 Playoff Tickets & 2018 Season Ticket Renewals are out in your Account Manager.

    2017/2018 prices for an original season ticket in 112 are:

    Playoffs: $104 (+10% from $95 in 2016)
    Season: $283 (+20% from $237.50 in 2016)
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    You guys in 112 are lucky. The reds went up a little over 15% - and I thought they were overpriced to begin with! Sigh... seems like I do this hand wringing ever year....

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    I got dinged for more than 15% in 114. All TFC2 games included this year, plus CCL game. I guess, I can live with this but hopefully they don't start down that path of raising prices every year for no reason.

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    I'll take paying a bit more for a winning team over "day 1 pricing" for the laughingstock of MLS. Jozy, Michael, and Seba don't come cheap. As long as we don't see the ridiculous price increases that we saw under Paul Bierne or stupid ideas like "ransom packs" I'm OK for now. Obviously at some point they could price me out but so far I can pony up.
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    Couldn't agree more.

    Curious though, what do we think are reasonable increases? My medium greys jump ~16% from this season to next. Not enough to chase me out but still pretty big jump. Personally something in around 5-7% seems a little more reasonable to me.

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    I'll take paying a bit more for a winning team over "day 1 pricing" for the laughingstock of MLS. Jozy, Michael, and Seba don't come cheap. As long as we don't see the ridiculous price increases that we saw under Paul Bierne or stupid ideas like "ransom packs" I'm OK for now. Obviously at some point they could price me out but so far I can pony up.

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    I was one of the morons that stayed in 127 instead of moving to the south end. We've gone from $228 in 2015 to $430 now. SMH. At this rate I don't even think we can relocate our four seats to the south end. Regretting that decision to stay big time.

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    Definitely saw my two seats in 111 go up from $722 to $860. Also pre-paying $270 for the playoffs a month before they actually happen? Ridiculous.

    But yes, I'd much rather have this problem than a shitty team...

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    Light Grey (105) here, paid 361 a ticket last year, now 430. 20% jump. I still think it's good value even with increase, but they can't get too aggressive every year with pricing because the team won't be great forever.

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    The playoffs tickets they are charging for are for two rounds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canary10 View Post
    The playoffs tickets they are charging for are for two rounds?
    For the knock-out game (which I'll rage if we have to play) and the Conference Semi-Final.

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    Dark grey (106) price went from $950 to $1125. With the Concacaf game included for a total of 20 games, the per game price went up 12.5% (from $50 to $56.25). Plus the TFC2 tickets on top of that add a bit of extra value. Overall I'm not really complaining.

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    Another year, another increase for light grey.
    The main effect will be that people will start thinking of selling more tickets. In the past Ive always given tix away, or said just grab me a large beer next time, or sold them for a max of 20 bucks each. But ive heard others brag about prices theyre getting on stubhub. Perhaps thats why my section seems to be overrun by tourists half the time.
    I wouldnt be as upset about this increase if it werent for that 40 percent bump in light grey before.
    I'm still renewing, but this is BS.

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    ^ Thanks. Price looked pretty high for just one!

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    From looking at my invoices last year (2016) in 111:

    Playoffs (presuming it is for Knockout / Conference Semi-Finals): $270 (no change from 2016)
    *however, I cannot read what the invoice is actually for i.e. Knock out / Eastern Semi, or Eastern Semi and East Final, etc.*
    Season Seats (with Concacaf included, as it was an option last year): $860 (was $760 in 2016 -- approx 10% increase)

    I am with Oldtimer in the opinion now that it was expected that Season Seats were going to increase this year (with Concacaf Games now and just how expensive our DPs are) plus paying what amounts to a minimal increase for:
    1) more senior team games,
    2) a better team than the first 8 years of TFC and,
    3) TFC2 games next year.

    But I feel as though there will be some dissenters to this opinion.
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    My two tickets are up about $200 for the season. I think they've gone up 50% in the past three years. Day one pricing is certainly gone eh.

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    Medium grey in 221 up 11% for me. Was expecting worse to be honest. The product is better and demand is up. My deal seems to be rather cheap compared to others in my section.


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    Hmm...just noticed we will all get TFCII tickets for next season. Bonus & Freebies I suppose.
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    I have two pairs right next to each other. What kills me every year during renewal period is the difference in price between the two pairs. If I had bought the second pair just one year earlier I would save another $300 from what I am being charged today since the loyalty program kicked in around that time. Loyalty should apply to the member and not the date they bought their seats in my opinion. I had my original pair since day 1 so me being an original member and adding a pair 4 years ago should have been honoured at the same price as my initial pair. My seatmate next to me bought his second pair the year before me and has the same price for both his pairs even though he bought them several years apart as well. He just luckily made the cutoff and I didn't. I Know I shouldn't be complaining I guess too much because I am still in a good place at a decent price but man....$300 is $300...know what I am sayin'.....

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    Fucking ML$E.

    $135 in 111 for the playoffs. This is consistent with last year's playoff prices (Knockout $65, Conference Semi $70 = $135). Conference Final was $85 and Final was $90.
    $430 in 111 for the season.

    So after large increases the past 2 seasons they are doing it again. Whatever similarity in prices that existed between Yellow and Light Grey is long gone. I had the legacy pricing but that has greatly eroded compared to the yellows.

    It seems they are justifying it by including TFC2 games https://toronto-mp7static.mlsdigital...20Contract.pdf

    I'd rather pay less since I never go to those, but perhaps others will appreciate having TFC2 seasons for $50. Still feels like an easy cash grab since most people will not take full advantage of this (Do people have enough time to go to this many games on top of the first team?). That said they will be at Lamport and BMO Field so maybe more people will take advantage of this. I just feel like MLSE has forgotten that we are a supporters section as well and have historically been priced much closer to the yellows.

    What it looked like the past few years in 111:

    2012: 399
    2013: 228 (when things rolled back to year 1 pricing)
    2014: 228
    2015: 228
    2016: 323 (the 42% increase). BTW the home playoff games that did not happen were listed as $40 each for the first 2 games. So in an alternate reality where we beat Montreal, Conference Semi and Conference Final would have been $40 each.
    2017: 380 -- 361 for season + 19 for CCL (subsequently refunded due to CCL format change) <-- Let's call this 20 games for consistency
    2018: 430 for 20 games (no specific breakdown for CCL price, but if we go long in CCL this will cover us until the Semi-Finals *If we assume 2 legs at each stage* so plan for more $$$ for the CCL Final and the Voyageurs Cup games)

    I don't have older emails for previous prices but I know they were less than 399 as that was the peak after consistent annual increases. I'm glad I only have my one seat. Not sure how the rest of you afford multiples

    Any newer SHH in lower light grey want to chime in? How much are you being dinged (is legacy pricing still a thing)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by magmadragon View Post
    Fucking ML$E.

    $135 in 111 for the playoffs. This is consistent with last year's playoff prices (Knockout $65, Conference Semi $70 = $135). Conference Final was $85 and Final was $90.
    $430 in 111 for the season.

    So after large increases the past 2 seasons they are doing it again. Whatever similarity in prices that existed between Yellow and Light Grey is long gone. I had the legacy pricing but that has greatly eroded compared to the yellows.

    It seems they are justifying it by including TFC2 games https://toronto-mp7static.mlsdigital...20Contract.pdf

    I'd rather pay less since I never go to those, but perhaps others will appreciate having TFC2 seasons for $50. Still feels like an easy cash grab since most people will not take full advantage of this (Do people have enough time to go to this many games on top of the first team?). That said they will be at Lamport and BMO Field so maybe more people will take advantage of this. I just feel like MLSE has forgotten that we are a supporters section as well and have historically been priced much closer to the yellows.

    What it looked like the past few years in 111:

    2012: 399
    2013: 228 (when things rolled back to year 1 pricing)
    2014: 228
    2015: 228
    2016: 323 (the 42% increase). BTW the home playoff games that did not happen were listed as $40 each for the first 2 games. So in an alternate reality where we beat Montreal, Conference Semi and Conference Final would have been $40 each.
    2017: 380 -- 361 for season + 19 for CCL (subsequently refunded due to CCL format change) <-- Let's call this 20 games for consistency
    2018: 430 for 20 games (no specific breakdown for CCL price, but if we go long in CCL this will cover us until the Semi-Finals *If we assume 2 legs at each stage* so plan for more $$$ for the CCL Final and the Voyageurs Cup games)

    I don't have older emails for previous prices but I know they were less than 399 as that was the peak after consistent annual increases. I'm glad I only have my one seat. Not sure how the rest of you afford multiples

    Any newer SHH in lower light grey want to chime in? How much are you being dinged (is legacy pricing still a thing)?
    You are looking at 7.7% above 2012, isn't that worth it upgrading from Julian de Guzman to Michael + Seba + Jozy? Plus a decent scouting network instead of just one player agent? Plus a huge investment in TFC2? To me it's a no-brainer.

    MLSE has lost a tonne of money on TFC in the last few years. TFC isn't a charity, MLSE invested for the long-haul, they will want a reasonable return on investment. If they can get it 100% from sponsors, great, but realistically I knew we would eventually have to pony up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kodiakTFC View Post
    I have an interesting bit to add. I have 7 tickets in 112, 6 with legacy pricing and 1 without.

    Legacy 2017->2018: 240 to 283
    W/o Legacy 2017->2018: 360 to 425
    I guess that answers my question then. Seems they got rid of legacy in 111 (or light greys more broadly) and our current price of 430 is close to the 425 non-legacy price. Or at least that's my guess. Any recent people in light greys want to comment on how much you are paying? Is it more than 430?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    You are looking at 7.7% above 2012, isn't that worth it upgrading from Julian de Guzman to Michael + Seba + Jozy? Plus a decent scouting network instead of just one player agent? Plus a huge investment in TFC2? To me it's a no-brainer.

    MLSE has lost a tonne of money on TFC in the last few years. TFC isn't a charity, MLSE invested for the long-haul, they will want a reasonable return on investment. If they can get it 100% from sponsors, great, but realistically I knew we would eventually have to pony up.
    I get that but it's still frustrating how things have diverged from the yellows. People said I should have moved in the past when we jumped to 323 but you and I both know you get to know the people around you after all these years. No way I want to lose my neighbours. Same reason everyone outside the supporters sections was pissed about the seat lottery for MLS Cup. We didn't get moved but I felt terrible for everyone else.

    Of course I'll take the team we have now but it still sucks to have my costs almost double in 4 years. It's fine for the guys in yellow but the rest of us have gotten hosed. It is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magmadragon View Post
    Fucking ML$E.

    $135 in 111 for the playoffs. This is consistent with last year's playoff prices (Knockout $65, Conference Semi $70 = $135). Conference Final was $85 and Final was $90.
    $430 in 111 for the season.

    So after large increases the past 2 seasons they are doing it again. Whatever similarity in prices that existed between Yellow and Light Grey is long gone. I had the legacy pricing but that has greatly eroded compared to the yellows.

    It seems they are justifying it by including TFC2 games https://toronto-mp7static.mlsdigital...20Contract.pdf

    I'd rather pay less since I never go to those, but perhaps others will appreciate having TFC2 seasons for $50. Still feels like an easy cash grab since most people will not take full advantage of this (Do people have enough time to go to this many games on top of the first team?). That said they will be at Lamport and BMO Field so maybe more people will take advantage of this. I just feel like MLSE has forgotten that we are a supporters section as well and have historically been priced much closer to the yellows.

    What it looked like the past few years in 111:

    2012: 399
    2013: 228 (when things rolled back to year 1 pricing)
    2014: 228
    2015: 228
    2016: 323 (the 42% increase). BTW the home playoff games that did not happen were listed as $40 each for the first 2 games. So in an alternate reality where we beat Montreal, Conference Semi and Conference Final would have been $40 each.
    2017: 380 -- 361 for season + 19 for CCL (subsequently refunded due to CCL format change) <-- Let's call this 20 games for consistency
    2018: 430 for 20 games (no specific breakdown for CCL price, but if we go long in CCL this will cover us until the Semi-Finals *If we assume 2 legs at each stage* so plan for more $$$ for the CCL Final and the Voyageurs Cup games)

    I don't have older emails for previous prices but I know they were less than 399 as that was the peak after consistent annual increases. I'm glad I only have my one seat. Not sure how the rest of you afford multiples

    Any newer SHH in lower light grey want to chime in? How much are you being dinged (is legacy pricing still a thing)?
    I have things a bit weirder (and better) in 220 --- legacy pricing in effect ---

    Up until 2016 I was the same as you mentioned in 111 ---

    2012: 399 (I think it was this or close to it)
    2013: 228 (when things rolled back to year 1 pricing)
    2014: 228
    2015: 228
    2016: 323 (the 42% increase) ---- which is $19 a ticket for 17 games

    My 2017 was $360 ($720) for 19 games ($684 + $36 for the two CCL games - for a pair) --- actually this is $18.95 (!) per ticket (without the CCL "discount" it would be about $20.12 per ticket for 17 games)

    My 2018 is $388 ($776) for 20 games which is $19.40 a ticket

    Anyone else have different pricing for the upper west side light greys (219/220/226/227)?

    Playoff prices are the same as last year for me which is $60/$65 for the first two rounds ($250 invoice for a pair for each round or $125 per seat).....its crazy that the various discrepancies exist, obviously I am on the "better side" of these things so I am not complaining in the least, but I understand other people's frustrations.....it's still way better than the Marlies ransom packs which I remember buying.....I actually had a ST single in 112 that I bought from a friend of mine in 2010 and 2011 (he moved to Alberta), really wish I would have had it transferred to me somehow back then just to have kept it going forward especially at such a cheap price.....I guess I'm lucky to have what I do after hearing from most of you on the boards this past day or so......
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    Quote Originally Posted by tfcfans View Post
    I have things a bit weirder (and better) in 220 --- legacy pricing in effect ---

    Up until 2016 I was the same as you mentioned in 111 ---

    2012: 399 (I think it was this or close to it)
    2013: 228 (when things rolled back to year 1 pricing)
    2014: 228
    2015: 228
    2016: 323 (the 42% increase) ---- which is $19 a ticket for 17 games

    My 2017 was $360 ($720) for 19 games ($684 + $36 for the two CCL games - for a pair) --- actually this is $18.95 (!) per ticket (without the CCL "discount" it would be about $20.12 per ticket for 17 games)

    My 2018 is $388 ($776) for 20 games which is $19.40 a ticket

    Anyone else have different pricing for the upper west side light greys (219/220/226/227)?
    I think everyone did. Looking at my notes, they match magmadragon exactly. However, you say it was $360 for 19 games. My notes say it was $342 in upper light grey, not $360. However my notes say the upper light grey plus 2 CCL games (there were half-price) was $360.

    Quote Originally Posted by Parkdale View Post
    my seats in 112 with "first year" pricing are now $283 (including tax).
    my added seat in 112 without "first year" pricing (despite my being a day-zero SSH) is now $425 (including tax).
    Yeah, that's exactly what I have.

    Quote Originally Posted by Parkdale View Post
    So is it safe to say that everyone who joined after year one is paying $425 per seat in the south end?
    Ah, it's more complicated than that. They introduced the whole year 1 pricing thing in 2013 for those who had 2012 seasons, and held it in both 2014 and 2015. Meanwhile 2013 purchasers got higher pricing. In 2014 they held 2013 at what they paid the year before, and went even higher.

    I've started to lose track, but I think there's only 3 tiers at renewal. Those that purchased in 2012 or earlier, 2013, 2014 and later. And then a 4th tier for new seasons each year.

    But it's become increasingly difficult to reverse engineer how they are doing this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rowan View Post
    It looks as though the 2017 Playoff Tickets & 2018 Season Ticket Renewals are out in your Account Manager.

    2017/2018 prices for an original season ticket in 112 are:

    Playoffs: $104 (+10% from $95 in 2016)
    Season: $283 (+10% from $237.50 in 2016)
    Math was never my strong subject,
    but isn't that actually a nearly 20% increase for us Southenders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flatpicker View Post
    Math was never my strong subject,
    but isn't that actually a nearly 20% increase for us Southenders?
    Ha! Clearly you were better at it than me. Noted and fixed.

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    No one likes increases. But they are a little easier to swallow when we're good.
    I can move my Tix if I can't go.
    I'm getting good value.
    We have some of the top players in the league.

    Much better than the previous increases based on how cool the team was in 2009.

    $283 for like 19 events in Toronto.

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    My southend pair in 118 is $338 a ticket compared $275 with one more game, 20 up from 19. Now when there was originally a Champions league ticket included in this year package it was going to be $300. I have had my season seats pair since 2009. I originally had light greys. Moved into the southend for the 2016 season, when the price for my pair went from $228 to $323.

    We are at the point where the pricing model for yellow/southend is completely separate from the rest of the stadium.

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    I have med grey seats in section 121. Last year I paid $950 per seat. 2018 is now up to $1,095 per seat. That's up almost 15%. It's getting harder to justify keeping my seats. I don't want to give them up though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain View Post
    I have med grey seats in section 121. Last year I paid $950 per seat. 2018 is now up to $1,095 per seat. That's up almost 15%. It's getting harder to justify keeping my seats. I don't want to give them up though.
    I'm med grey also in 109.

    2017 was $950 for 19 games which equals $50 per game
    2018 is $1095 for 20 games which equals $54.75 per game

    So the increase is 9.5%

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    Maybe lost in all this is that TFCII are moving to Lamport?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokecell View Post
    Maybe lost in all this is that TFCII are moving to Lamport?
    I did not know this. cheers.

 

 

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