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    Default Match Day 13 TFC @ NYRB Friday May 19 7:30pm - Keep It Going

    For those into chill ambient music

    https://play.anghami.com/song/17234973


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    I WILL be at Joe's for this one.

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    Anyone thinking of going to the game? We're kinda tempted given it's the long weekend.... Did anyone get tickets?
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    Energy drinks just had their first home loss in the regular season since April of last year. They will be motivated but have issues. Not much width and teams can play in front of their back 4. Will be a tough game no matter what.

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    Should Irwin start this after Bono had what looked like a bit of a pulled hamstring last game? Rotate regardless? Or is Bono #1 now and we ride him? Curious to see what Vanney does here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notthesun View Post
    Should Irwin start this after Bono had what looked like a bit of a pulled hamstring last game? Rotate regardless? Or is Bono #1 now and we ride him? Curious to see what Vanney does here.
    I think we should be looking to move Irwin and make Bono #1. It makes no sense to have two #1 keepers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    I think we should be looking to move Irwin and make Bono #1. It makes no sense to have two #1 keepers.
    We'll move one eventually, but I think it's fine for now. Irwin is on a reasonable deal and Bono is cheap.

    Who knows if we'd have won all our last 6 games with only one of them.

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    Makes perfect sense to have 2 number 1 keepers. Seasons are long. Extra competitions in CCL and Canada Cup. Irwin already had 2 injuries and the same could happen to Bono at any time. Plus Irwin and bono are on decent or low salaries which makes little impact on salary cap.

    I can't believe people complain about everything. This team is depth. That's what u need to win. No point in ruining what's good.

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    I think Irwin starts this one, then maybe Bono again next Tuesday.

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    Bono looked to have tweeked the hammy so that may make the decision for Vanney. I love having the "Problem" of having choice. The challenge will be keeping everyone happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinamoTFC View Post
    Makes perfect sense to have 2 number 1 keepers. Seasons are long. Extra competitions in CCL and Canada Cup. Irwin already had 2 injuries and the same could happen to Bono at any time. Plus Irwin and bono are on decent or low salaries which makes little impact on salary cap.

    I can't believe people complain about everything. This team is depth. That's what u need to win. No point in ruining what's good.
    Agreed. It's not like we are hard up against the "cap" and are only surviving on allocation like the mismanaged teams of TFC past. As long as both keepers are happy enough, we're good to have depth on every position.

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    Hmmm? Something like this:

    -----------------------Irwin---------------------------
    --Beitashour--Zavaleta--Moor--Mavinga--Morrow--
    ------------Bradley--Vasquez----Delgado-----------
    ---------Altidore---------Ricketts-------------------

    Bench: Bono, Hernandez, Chapman, Edwards, Cooper, Endoh?, Hamilton?, Spencer?
    Last edited by Graeme; 05-16-2017 at 01:36 PM. Reason: Forgot Delgado

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    Hmmm? Something like this:

    -----------------------Irwin---------------------------
    --Beitashour--Zavaleta--Moor--Mavinga--Morrow--
    ------------Bradley--Vasquez----Delgado-----------
    ---------Altidore---------Ricketts-------------------

    Bench: Bono, Hernandez, Chapman, Edwards, Cooper, Endoh?, Hamilton?, Spencer?
    I know Ricketts is earning his starting spot right now in Seba's absence but I kind of like bringing him in at full speed with 30 min or so left to go in the game. He makes a really great supersub and really gives the tiring defenders alot of grief. Wonder if anyone else has been decent enough in training to step up and play beside Altidore in a starting role. I know it won't happen and Ricketts will get the start but just for conversation sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Kool View Post
    I know Ricketts is earning his starting spot right now in Seba's absence but I kind of like bringing him in at full speed with 30 min or so left to go in the game. He makes a really great supersub and really gives the tiring defenders alot of grief. Wonder if anyone else has been decent enough in training to step up and play beside Altidore in a starting role. I know it won't happen and Ricketts will get the start but just for conversation sake.
    Ben Spencer (recently promoted to the first team) is potentially good enough, but I would see him ATM as depth, not as a starter.

    A bigger issue as a coach is keeping your talent happy. Ricketts wants to start, he realizes he is depth behind Jozy and Seba, but he would not be happy if he didn't get the start when the opportunity came. TBH he deserves it. I do prefer him as a super sub, but his own feelings play a part in managing him.
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    Wonder if they'd ever try Edwards up top with Altidore. IIRC, he was a striker right?

    He's a pretty strong player on the ball, like Giovinco. Would be cool to give him a shot at his natural position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarboroughRed View Post
    Wonder if they'd ever try Edwards up top with Altidore. IIRC, he was a striker right?

    He's a pretty strong player on the ball, like Giovinco. Would be cool to give him a shot at his natural position.
    Actually that would be a handful I think for defenders and could be fun to watch. Never thought of him in that role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    Ben Spencer (recently promoted to the first team) is potentially good enough, but I would see him ATM as depth, not as a starter.

    A bigger issue as a coach is keeping your talent happy. Ricketts wants to start, he realizes he is depth behind Jozy and Seba, but he would not be happy if he didn't get the start when the opportunity came. TBH he deserves it. I do prefer him as a super sub, but his own feelings play a part in managing him.
    I hear ya. He will get the start based on pecking order and results as of late especially. The way it needs to be to keep the player happy. Let's hope he can get another head on the ball again for a goal or two.

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    I hope we can see Moor step back in. I'm really disappointed for Hagglund as he was really starting to look like a guy who could be our defensive anchor for a decade up until that knee moment. Here's hoping he bounces back quickly and continues his development.
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    Of late, Hagglund was killer at neutralizing crosses into the box. I hope Mavinga has been watching. Also, I love Cooper. He will settle down. Him losing the ball after pretzeling two guys keeps defenders guessing and is so much better than losing it by our old-school hoofball approach.

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    -------------------------Irwin---------------------------
    -Beitashour-Zavaleta--Moor--Morrow--Edwards--
    ------------------------Cheyrou-------------------------
    ----------Bradley----------------Vasquez---------------

    -------------Altidore-----------Ricketts---------------

    or

    -------------------------Irwin---------------------------
    -Beitashour-Zavaleta--Moor--Hernandez--Morrow--
    ------------------------Cheyrou-------------------------
    -----------Bradley-----------------Vasquez---------------
    -------Ricketts--------Altidore------------Edwards-----------

    subs: Bono, Mavinga, Morgan, Chapman, Cooper, Hamilton, Spencer
    Last edited by backbeat; 05-16-2017 at 11:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boozilla View Post
    Of late, Hagglund was killer at neutralizing crosses into the box. I hope Mavinga has been watching. Also, I love Cooper. He will settle down. Him losing the ball after pretzeling two guys keeps defenders guessing and is so much better than losing it by our old-school hoofball approach.
    Nah, the way he tries to dribble around 2-3 defenders all the fucking time instead of passing makes it seem like he's always trying for that highlight reel play. Just make the fucking pass instead of trying to be a showman.

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    As a Pittsburgh Penguins supporter (91/92 teams greatest of all time), I fully support the 2 goalkeeper theory. There was tons of speculation that we were going to trade Fleury at the deadline, and we wouldn't be this far into the playoffs without him.

    Healthy competition in net can only be a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boozilla View Post
    Of late, Hagglund was killer at neutralizing crosses into the box. I hope Mavinga has been watching. Also, I love Cooper. He will settle down. Him losing the ball after pretzeling two guys keeps defenders guessing and is so much better than losing it by our old-school hoofball approach.
    I'm all for taking on defenders and not just having a go at a guy cause he lost the ball on a dribble rather than a gutless hoof upfield, however Cooper just doesn't know when to pick his spots.

    If you look at Edwards, he takes on guys all the time but it's generally 1) selective 2) with an end goal in mind (cross, shot, whatever).

    Cooper is taking on guys for whatever reason and the worst part is if he beats his man he's still not releasing the ball or providing an end product. He has to rethink what he's doing here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by backbeat View Post
    -------------------------Irwin---------------------------
    -Beitashour-Zavaleta--Moor--Morrow--Edwards--
    ------------------------Cheyrou-------------------------
    ----------Bradley----------------Vasquez---------------

    -------------Altidore-----------Ricketts---------------

    or

    -------------------------Irwin---------------------------
    -Beitashour-Zavaleta--Moor--Hernandez--Morrow--
    ------------------------Cheyrou-------------------------
    -----------Bradley-----------------Vasquez---------------
    -------Ricketts--------Altidore------------Edwards-----------

    subs: Bono, Mavinga, Morgan, Chapman, Cooper, Hamilton, Spencer
    I like the second lineup. 12 men would rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul-collins View Post
    I like the second lineup. 12 men would rock.

    haha - oops - ok, if we must, minus Hernandez....

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    I would love to see Edwards used up top with the strikers

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    Unless they pull a rabbit out of their hat, NYRB is going to play really narrow. So 3 in the back is good. They can't handle width with speed and are having issues handling big men. To me, that's Edwards and Morrow at WB putting in crosses to Jozy & Ricketts.

    I never take an away game for granted and NYRB are likely to be fired up for this one. BUT, we set up well against them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenRhodes23 View Post
    I would love to see Edwards used up top with the strikers
    As of right now, that's a big yes for me!

    Edwards and Altidore already seem to link up well. Plus Edwards has great pace and ball handling skills to mimic the Giovinco style.

    They can cause trouble with Vasquez feeding them.

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    I get the critics, but just enjoy rooting for someone with his gumption and raw talent.
    Cooper is a natural at protecting the ball and switching directions.
    Yes, he has audacious, yet often futile dribbling skills. I'd like to believe that even at 29,
    he can still reign in his ego and (with some guidance from teammates and Vanney)
    wow us all as a team player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    For those into chill ambient music
    For my trip back home to georgian bay this weekend, I loaded up my phone with jose padilla cafe del mar mixtapes from '88-'92

    Can't wait for the game tomorrow night! When you're team is finding ways to win each night, it gets you amped up for kickoff

 

 

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