Yeah, now. At press time (time of post) we were the only ones.Originally Posted by Eastend
"It's lonely at the top" :-)
Yeah, now. At press time (time of post) we were the only ones.
"It's lonely at the top" :-)
Road Games:
2013 - Montréal , 2014 - Orlando (Disney Classic), Montréal
2015 - Columbus, New England, Montréal
2016 - NYCFC (Leg 2 Conference Semis), Montréal (Leg 1 Conference Final)
2017 - Ottawa (Leg 1 Canadian Championship Semi), DCU, Red Bulls (Leg 1 Conference Final), Columbus (Leg 2 Conference Final)
2019 - Montréal, NYCFC (Eastern Conference Semi @ Citi Field), Seattle (MLS Cup Final)
Both NYC and Van have tough schedules the rest of the way. If TFC doesn't get a single point the rest of the way, they probably still clinch. ATL still has a chance as well, but they need to run the table, which is hard to do in MLS.
NYC:
@ MON
@ CHI
@ NE
vs CLM
VAN:
@ SEA
@ KC
@ NYRB
vs SJ
@ POR
ATL:
vs PHI
@ NE
vs MIN
@ NYRB
vs TFC
Last edited by 105; 09-25-2017 at 09:35 AM.
^wow... NYRB are in for some tough games. MTL still has a fighting chance.
Wednesday is gonna be a good day to tell where we sit. We rest while all three other teams that could catch us play.
All three teams need a win. We can just sit back and see how things play out.
Road Games:
2013 - Montréal , 2014 - Orlando (Disney Classic), Montréal
2015 - Columbus, New England, Montréal
2016 - NYCFC (Leg 2 Conference Semis), Montréal (Leg 1 Conference Final)
2017 - Ottawa (Leg 1 Canadian Championship Semi), DCU, Red Bulls (Leg 1 Conference Final), Columbus (Leg 2 Conference Final)
2019 - Montréal, NYCFC (Eastern Conference Semi @ Citi Field), Seattle (MLS Cup Final)
If NYCFC doesn't WIN against MTL we clinch the shield (magic number for us currently is 2 pts, either we pick up or NYC drop).
Saturday will either be a party before we get there or we will have another memorable day against the Red Bulls.
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Doesnt Atlanta still have a hope at the shield ? If they win out they'll be on 64 points. If we lose out they would win the shield. Someone help me find what I'm missing ....
Atlanta and Vancouver can catch us for the shield.
After Wednesday, we'll know who can still catch us.
On Wednesday:
Atlanta plays Philly
NYCFC plays Montreal
Vancouver plays Seattle
Anything less than a win for all three of those teams seals the Shield for us. If any or all of them win, then "decision day" moves to Saturday.
Road Games:
2013 - Montréal , 2014 - Orlando (Disney Classic), Montréal
2015 - Columbus, New England, Montréal
2016 - NYCFC (Leg 2 Conference Semis), Montréal (Leg 1 Conference Final)
2017 - Ottawa (Leg 1 Canadian Championship Semi), DCU, Red Bulls (Leg 1 Conference Final), Columbus (Leg 2 Conference Final)
2019 - Montréal, NYCFC (Eastern Conference Semi @ Citi Field), Seattle (MLS Cup Final)
Even if Atlanta, NYC and Vancouver win their games on Wednesday, if we win on Saturday, that means we clinch the SS, right?...
Right. Three points clinch it.
We've blown it. We aren't going to win anything this year. This is vintage TFC.
Ha ha ha!
You need context to your sarcasm.
That's all I'll say about that.
It looks like it is otherwise. If our magic number is 3 with NYC, then if they draw they only drop 2 points and we still need 1 on Saturday. In theory if they draw on Wed, then they win out and we lose out then we are tied on points and wins but GD is the next tiebreaker. We have an impossible advantage in GD, but it is still statistically possible so we would not clinch.
If Van or Atl drop any points on Wed, then they are done. Looks like they kept up their wins recently and stayed closer to the shield race.
If we win on Sat its all done.
That's all I'll say about that.
Yeah, you're right - if you want to get technical and use facts and numbers and stuff like that. ;-)
Road Games:
2013 - Montréal , 2014 - Orlando (Disney Classic), Montréal
2015 - Columbus, New England, Montréal
2016 - NYCFC (Leg 2 Conference Semis), Montréal (Leg 1 Conference Final)
2017 - Ottawa (Leg 1 Canadian Championship Semi), DCU, Red Bulls (Leg 1 Conference Final), Columbus (Leg 2 Conference Final)
2019 - Montréal, NYCFC (Eastern Conference Semi @ Citi Field), Seattle (MLS Cup Final)
Even a draw on Saturday would mathematically increase the odds of taking the shield.
This is vintage bush league MLS.
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
Just wanted to share some important news on the shield race. Atlanta's Almiron, who is a ridiculous player, pulled his hammy, out 3 weeks.
Win these two home games and play a low block in the final game against Atlanta.
Put Seba, Jozy, Victor and Michael (If Cheyrou healthy) on the bench and just test the waters with the B team. Bring out any of those guys in the second half.
Sucks that we'd be tied with the record but I'd rather tie it and be healthy than beat it and fall when it matters (ala GS Warriors). The goal is the Shield, everything else is icing.
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
Nope, vintage MLS bush league is throwing streamers at players during corners.
Og wonders why irony meter is going beserk...sees nickname complaining about post 2006 MLS supporter culture....goes back to Big Soccer Forums in nostalgia.
Last edited by OgtheDim; 09-27-2017 at 04:36 PM.
Random fact: TFC have lost 14 points this year to non-playoff teams (this does not include MTL or NYRB games).
The Shield + Records < MLS Championship
I'll savour this amazing season, regardless.
Can't be caught by Vancouver now.
Well nycfc and Atlanta both won, so the shield not clinched yet. Vancouver lost so they are out of contention
I agree
EASTERN CONFERENCE PTS GP GR Max Playoffs As of now Shield? Toronto FC * 62 31 3 71 Bye. Home Field Advantage New York City FC * 55 31 3 64 Bye. Home Field Advantage Atlanta FC * 52 30 4 64 Wildcard vs. New York Red Bulls Chicago Fire * 51 31 3 60 Wildcard vs. Columbus Crew NO Chance Columbus Crew SC 47 31 3 56 Wildcard @ Chicago Fire NO Chance New York Red Bulls 43 30 4 55 Wildcard @ Atlanta FC NO Chance Montreal Impact 39 31 3 48 HOPE NO Chance New England Revolution 38 31 3 47 HOPE NO Chance Orlando City SC 36 31 3 45 HOPE NO Chance Philadephia Union 36 31 3 45 HOPE NO Chance D.C. United 32 31 3 41 Eliminated NO Chance WESTERN CONFERENCE PTS GP GR Max Playoffs? Vancouver Whitecaps FC 48 30 4 60 Bye. Home Field Advantage NO Chance Portland Timbers 47 31 3 56 Bye. Home Field Advantage NO Chance Sporting KC 47 29 5 62 Wildcard vs San Jose NO Chance Seattle Sounders FC 47 31 3 56 Wildcard vs Real Salt Lake NO Chance Real Salt Lake 41 31 3 50 Wildcard @ Seattle NO Chance FC Dallas 41 30 4 53 Wildcard @ Sporting KC NO Chance Houston Dynamo 40 30 4 52 HOPE NO Chance San Jose Earthquakes 39 31 3 48 HOPE NO Chance Minnesota United FC 32 29 5 47 HOPE NO Chance LA Galaxy 28 31 3 37 Eliminated NO Chance Colorado Rapids 26 30 4 38 Eliminated NO Chance
*clinch playoff spot
Lol. Ya them wuz the days.
At least we're soon to end a wait for a top of the league trophy. I'll appreciate the hell out of that.
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
MLS Cup now guaranteed to be played in Toronto again
(oh right ... assuming we get there)
“What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.”
TFC has the best odds of any team of winning the cup, but that's still less than 50%. For winning the shield, we probably need to win one of the next three games.
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