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    How do we start a social media campaign to get Montreal to give us an Honour Guard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    How do we start a social media campaign to get Montreal to give us an Honour Guard?
    Murphy Malone can organize that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    If we were to win it, I would expect October 15th to be the game it gets awarded

    The shield is actually controlled by the fans, not the league.
    On that note... where is the shield kept/displayed during the season?
    Would it be in Toronto's trophy case?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    If we were to win it, I would expect October 15th to be the game it gets awarded

    The shield is actually controlled by the fans, not the league.

    Even if we have it clinched the week before (@home vs NYRB)?

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    EASTERN CONFERENCE PTS GP GR Max Playoffs As of now Shield?
    Toronto FC 59 28 6 77 Bye. Home Field Advantage 69 Magic Number
    New York City FC 50 28 6 68 Bye. Home Field Advantage
    Chicago Fire 45 28 6 63 Wildcard vs. Atlanta United FC
    Columbus Crew SC 43 29 5 58 Wildcard vs. New York Red Bulls NO Chance
    New York Red Bulls 41 27 7 62 Wildcard @ Columbus Crew SC
    Atlanta United FC 39 25 9 66 Wildcard @ Chicago Fire
    Montreal Impact 36 27 7 57 HOPE NO Chance
    New England Revolution 35 27 7 56 HOPE NO Chance
    Orlando City SC 34 28 6 52 HOPE NO Chance
    Philadephia Union 32 28 6 50 HOPE NO Chance
    D.C. United 28 28 6 46 HOPE NO Chance
    WESTERN CONFERENCE PTS GP GR Max Playoffs? Shield
    Portland Timbers 44 29 5 59 Bye. Home Field Advantage NO Chance
    Seattle Sounders FC 43 28 6 61 Bye. Home Field Advantage
    Vancouver Whitecaps FC 41 26 8 65 Wildcard vs FC Dallas
    Sporting KC 41 27 7 62 Wildcard vs Houston Dynamo
    Houston Dynamo 38 27 7 59 Wildcard @ Sporting Kansas City NO Chance
    FC Dallas 37 27 7 58 Wildcard @ Vancouver Whitecaps NO Chance
    San Jose Earthquakes 36 28 6 54 HOPE NO Chance
    Real Salt Lake 35 29 5 50 HOPE NO Chance
    LA Galaxy 27 27 7 48 HOPE NO Chance
    Minnesota United FC 26 26 8 50 HOPE NO Chance
    Colorado Rapids 25 27 7 46 HOPE NO Chance

    did some excel fun while bored at work.... This is what it looks like, Our Magic number is 69... great number in my books :P


    Quote Originally Posted by fergiejr View Post
    EASTERN CONFERENCE
    PTS GP GR Max Playoffs?
    Shield?
    Toronto FC 56 27 7 77 Bye. Home Field Advantage
    New York City FC 47 26 8 71 Bye. Home Field Advantage
    Columbus Crew SC 42 28 6 60 Wildcard vs Atlanta United FC
    Chicago Fire 41 26 8 65 Wildcard vs New York Red Bulls
    New York Red Bulls 39 25 9 66 Wildcard @ Chicago Fire
    Atlanta United FC 36 24 10 66 Wildcard @ Columbus Crew SC
    Montreal Impact 36 25 9 63 HOPE
    Philadelphia Union 31 27 7 52 HOPE NO Chance
    Orlando City SC 31 26 8 55 HOPE NO Chance
    New England Revolution 29 25 9 56 HOPE
    D.C. United 28 27 7 49 HOPE NO Chance
    WESTERN CONFERENCE
    PTS GP GR Max Playoffs?
    Seattle Sounders FC 42 27 7 63 Bye. Home Field Advantage
    Portland Timbers 41 28 6 59 Bye. Home Field Advantage
    Sporting Kansas City 40 25 9 67 Wildcard vs San Jose Earthquakes
    Vancouver Whitecaps FC 38 25 9 65 Wildcard vs Houston Dynamo
    Houston Dynamo 38 26 8 62 Wildcard @ Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    San Jose Earthquakes 36 27 7 57 Wildcard @ Sporting Kansas City
    FC Dallas 36 25 9 63 HOPE
    Real Salt Lake 35 28 6 53 HOPE NO Chance
    Minnesota United FC 25 25 9 52 HOPE NO Chance
    LA Galaxy 23 25 9 50 HOPE NO Chance
    Colorado Rapids 22 25 9 49 HOPE NO Chance


    Some fun with Excel. Playoff column is if the season ended today.

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    i fuckin love this thread. there's no hand wringing or moaning or fighting words. sometimes i read these forums and wonder what happened to the cranky old culture we had here in years gone by. now its all positive and together and full of love and confidence. winning. we're playing out scenarios to win the shield, and it's not difficult. i fuckin love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lobo View Post
    i fuckin love this thread. there's no hand wringing or moaning or fighting words. sometimes i read these forums and wonder what happened to the cranky old culture we had here in years gone by. now its all positive and together and full of love and confidence. winning. we're playing out scenarios to win the shield, and it's not difficult. i fuckin love it.
    It'll get cranky in a hurry if our side fails to capture the MLS Cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lobo View Post
    i fuckin love this thread. there's no hand wringing or moaning or fighting words. sometimes i read these forums and wonder what happened to the cranky old culture we had here in years gone by. now its all positive and together and full of love and confidence. winning. we're playing out scenarios to win the shield, and it's not difficult. i fuckin love it.
    All the moaning, bickering, arguments are going the way of the dodo bird with the way the Reds are rolling right now.

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    We go down to LA by a goal and the game thread will turn dark and cranky real quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    We go down to LA by a goal and the game thread will turn dark and cranky real quick.
    At least we already made the playoffs. I remember when that was highly in doubt somewhere around week 3-4 and we sucked.

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    Vancouver seems to really have got good at the right time. An all Canadian final for a TFC double would be a blast. I
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    Quote Originally Posted by Globetrotter View Post
    Magic number is 10, but could be 9 through tie breaker. At this stage of the game, you can't use tie breaker in a magic number situation - way too many variables to interfere. Magic number typically suggests you've moved past tie breaker... which means 10 is still our number.

    We could clinch shield while on the field in NE, while the match is still on. If we beat LA and MTL, we gain 6 points.
    If NYCFC lose in COL, and then in HOU on the Saturday, their game would finish around halftime of our NE game. In fact, they dont need to lose both, a loss and tie plus our 2 wins would equal those 10 points to give us our magic number.

    Atlanta has 10 games left, 8 at home in their new stadium. Montreal is not making the playoffs... and Atlanta even finish as high as 4th (though a stretch to do it).

    Here's a conservative outlook
    Win in LA.
    Tie home vs MTL
    Lose in NE
    Win home to NYRB
    Win home MTL (this would land us at 69 points)
    At Atlanta...who knows. I would be surprised about a tie or loss.

    Magic number down to 5.

    Win on Wednesday, it's down to 2. As stated in my previous post, If NYCFC lose next weekend, we'll be around half time in NE and have won the shield.

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    There's still a race? lol

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    If my math is right and it may not be.. if Toronto Beat Montreal on Wednesday and NYCFC lose or tie on Saturday TFC will Clinch the Shield.

    If that happens. TFC will have Won the Supporters Shield before any other team won a playoff spot. What I'm not sure off as I didn't do the figuring.. is if our beating Montreal clinches a playoff spot for NYCFC.

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    Not to jinx anything but let's assume reality here - when would the Shield be presented? Assuming it's clinched before the 30th (seems likely given that even one win in the next two and any combination of that with NYCFC not getting max points gets it done), would it be after the Sept 30th game? or at the end of the final regular season home game? Or is it not presented on field at all? I'm not sure of the protocol.....what a crazy notion for those of us following this franchise for the first seven years or so.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfcfans View Post
    Not to jinx anything but let's assume reality here - when would the Shield be presented? Assuming it's clinched before the 30th (seems likely given that even one win in the next two and any combination of that with NYCFC not getting max points gets it done), would it be after the Sept 30th game? or at the end of the final regular season home game? Or is it not presented on field at all? I'm not sure of the protocol.....what a crazy notion for those of us following this franchise for the first seven years or so.....
    I just assumed it was presented to the team during the first home match after clinching. And yeah, normally there is an on field presentation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flatpicker View Post
    I just assumed it was presented to the team during the first home match after clinching. And yeah, normally there is an on field presentation.
    So then it could easily be the 30th and not October 15th? I looked up last year but it was clinched on the last weekend so that didn't really help....I don't think it's been clinched this early (well before the last weekend potentially) since about 2012.....
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    New York's saturday game is two hours before ours. If the result goes our way midweek and in New York, we could walk out in New England with the shield clinched before the game even starts.

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    Curious question - As STH are we all still going to be charged for a knockout game on Sept 29th as scheduled when we know we aren't going to be playing in a knockout game (it's already "almost" mathematically impossible based on the combination of schedules already never mind by the 29th) --- wouldn't it make more sense to just pre-charge us for the ECSF and ECF instead....rather than charging all the STH for a non-existent game and then having multiple transactions to refund it or apply the charged amounts and then charge us all an additional $10-$15 or so with another invoice for the ECF ticket instead of the knockout one? It's not like anyone isn't going to take their ECF tickets if offered.....I know, I know, this is what we would call a "first world of MLS success" issue (ha ha ha).....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfcfans View Post
    Curious question - As STH are we all still going to be charged for a knockout game on Sept 29th as scheduled when we know we aren't going to be playing in a knockout game (it's already "almost" mathematically impossible based on the combination of schedules already never mind by the 29th) --- wouldn't it make more sense to just pre-charge us for the ECSF and ECF instead....rather than charging all the STH for a non-existent game and then having multiple transactions to refund it or apply the charged amounts and then charge us all an additional $10-$15 or so with another invoice for the ECF ticket instead of the knockout one? It's not like anyone isn't going to take their ECF tickets if offered.....I know, I know, this is what we would call a "first world of MLS success" issue (ha ha ha).....
    I bet they tell us they will use the credit for the knockout round for the finals and give people an option to opt out and get the refund. That would be my guess.

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    Down to 5 points now! It would take a catastrophic event for us not to win it haha. It's over! The quadruple is on!

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    It's likely mathematically done this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canary10 View Post
    It's likely mathematically done this weekend.
    Maybe sooner. If we win on Wednesday, it eliminates all teams but NYCFC from the race. We play NER on Saturday and NYCFC plays Houston - which will not be a walk in the park They're just below the playoffline so they will want points. Any result other than a win for NYCFC will eliminate them.

    On Saturday, they have the 3PM game. We have the 5PM game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fergiejr View Post
    Maybe sooner. If we win on Wednesday, it eliminates all teams but NYCFC from the race. We play NER on Saturday and NYCFC plays Houston - which will not be a walk in the park They're just below the playoffline so they will want points. Any result other than a win for NYCFC will eliminate them.

    On Saturday, they have the 3PM game. We have the 5PM game.
    this is the part that sucks. I want NYCFC to win this week so that we can claim shield on home turf rather then win it away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinUtd View Post
    Even if we have it clinched the week before (@home vs NYRB)?
    Even if its sooner, it will be coming to us on Oct 15 th
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    Quote Originally Posted by flatpicker View Post
    On that note... where is the shield kept/displayed during the season?
    Would it be in Toronto's trophy case?
    Working that out with the team. It may reside at KIA for a bit, but ultimately its up to RPB and Kings (both ISC members) to determine. I will be getting consultation from Dallas SG's as well as the ISC for best recommendations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tfcfans View Post
    Curious question - As STH are we all still going to be charged for a knockout game on Sept 29th as scheduled when we know we aren't going to be playing in a knockout game (it's already "almost" mathematically impossible based on the combination of schedules already never mind by the 29th) --- wouldn't it make more sense to just pre-charge us for the ECSF and ECF instead....rather than charging all the STH for a non-existent game and then having multiple transactions to refund it or apply the charged amounts and then charge us all an additional $10-$15 or so with another invoice for the ECF ticket instead of the knockout one? It's not like anyone isn't going to take their ECF tickets if offered.....I know, I know, this is what we would call a "first world of MLS success" issue (ha ha ha).....
    If its mathematically not needed at that point it won't be charged. If its possible the game would need to be played then found not to be, a refund will be issued to the account. This is from a meeting last week with the team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tfcfans View Post
    Not to jinx anything but let's assume reality here - when would the Shield be presented? Assuming it's clinched before the 30th (seems likely given that even one win in the next two and any combination of that with NYCFC not getting max points gets it done), would it be after the Sept 30th game? or at the end of the final regular season home game? Or is it not presented on field at all? I'm not sure of the protocol.....what a crazy notion for those of us following this franchise for the first seven years or so.....
    There will be an on field presentation on October 15 v Montreal.

    Provided we clinch it *knocks on wood*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    There will be an on field presentation on October 15 v Montreal.

    Provided we clinch it *knocks on wood*
    I like it. Rub it in front of IMFC and their supporters.

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