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Voyageurs Cup 2017
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I suppose they can do this now that Vancouver finally got enough Canadians to dress 3 as starters.New to the Canadian Championship in 2017, Canada Soccer has added a Canadian Content rule ensuring that at least three Canadians are included on every starting lineup throughout the competition.
Originally Posted by OgtheDim
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I suppose they can do this now that Vancouver finally got enough Canadians to dress 3 as starters.
Well played.
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Ottawa trip the day after the long weekend. Whoah.
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In line with the launch of the new CONCACAF Champions League format which places the Canadian representative in Phase II beginning in March 2018, a special one-match Canadian playoff between last year's winners Toronto FC (unless Toronto FC repeats as Canadian winners) and the 2017 winners will be played on 9 August in Toronto to determine who will advance.
So we lost our guaranteed Champions League spot in the 2017-2018 CONCACAF Champions League
I actually don't mind this idea. Has the potential to be a HUGE night for Canadian soccer.
Only if we lose. Plus it has the potential to make Will Johnsons amazing leg breaking goal irrelevant.
Uh, so its not a big night if we have a one off game against Vancouver or Montreal at our place and win?
As for making that goal irrelevant, I'm pretty darn sure the CSA didn't have to give us a slot in the CCL in 2018 at all. Given that, we get the inside track all the way on this thing. We thought winning that competition meant CCL - well apparently it doesn't. What it gives us is home field advantage. In the grand scheme of things, I'll take that. Would I prefer we had an in on this thing? Sure. But, rules change and somebody was going to lose out here.
Ultimately, there is no way the CSA were going to make teams wait 18 months from winning the Voyaguers to get in the CCL - that wasn't going to happen. The tradeoff for this is getting into a knockout competition right away with probable seed that means Canadian teams don't play a US or Mexican team until the quarters.
Last edited by OgtheDim; 03-10-2017 at 06:59 AM.
But you can't change the rules AFTER the competition has already taken place. That's incredibly unfair.
I meant that the "big night". Only happens if we lose this years tourney
Dumb that we've lost our qualification for the CCL, but I guess something had to be done...
This does open up the interesting angle that we could play an entire squad of subs and reserve for this whole tournament with the knowledge that if we lose, we can put out a full strength team in the playoff to secure CCL qualification. Not that I think this will actually happen.
May is going to be a busy month. Yikes.
It always is. Which is why I admire Manning for making the Voyageurs and the CCL so important. They could do like Vancouver did for years and just avoid the whole thing. But not TFC anymore.
I would not be surprised if the CSA wanted to just skip the 2016 winner and make the 2017 Voyageurs team the CCL entrant and Manning slighly pointed out there was another option. Hey, we win, we are in. We don't win, and we have a cup final, at our place, to get there. I'll take that.
Need to go for the cup win to remove any jabbering points by our west coast and east river rivals. but at least we have the other way in as consolation in case we don't get the silverware.
Easy answer to that
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"Looking ahead to 2018, Canada Soccer has also confirmed plans to expand the Canadian Championship to include winning teams from both League1 Ontario and Premičre Ligue de soccer du Québec."
So why those two and not the six Canadian teams in the PDL? The US Open Cup allows PDL teams to enter....if we did it in Canada we would have a 13 team tournament.
I am very exciting to see that the Voyageur Cup has expanded to include League 1 Teams! I am assuming though, if the Academy wins, they wouldn't be eligble?
What if there just happened to be 9 CPL teams in 2018...
This CCL thing is absolute horseshit. They can't make a change like that after it has already declared that Toronto is the CCL entrant (or are they going to try some 'we hadn't actually officially declared it yet' thing)?
TFC should get into the next CCL, no matter what. Then maybe this year's and next year's CC winners can play-off.
Doing it this way is fucking lame.
Bingo. More politely, but bingo. Will Johnson's goal meant something. Remeber the feeling?
It meant winning the Voyageurs' Cup and being crowned champions of Canada. That's enough for me.
In any case, we are going to win again this year, no playoff needed.
That's confidence! What if Montreal wins this year then wins the playoff on our home turf? It's happened before, ya know that Montreal qualified for the CCL in our house. I'll leave it at that.
Last edited by Oldtimer; 03-10-2017 at 01:32 PM.
MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto
What will the cap tie rules be for TFC if they go through to CCL based on the 2016 win?
Put another way, is Vasquez tied with Cruz Azul?
Paging John Molinaro. Good question to ask!!!
MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto
TFC cant go in based on the 2016 win, at best they will go in based on the 2017 win, or the playoff between TFC and the 2017 winner. Either way Vasquez would not be cup tied as he was not on Cruz Azul in 2017, and he would be eligible to paly in the playoff match in 2017.
You can't be cuptied for a competition you've never played in.
Cruz Azul didn't qualify for the CCL in 16/17 so Vasquez never played in it.
Ok, to be honest I only threw his name out there because it was on the top of my head.
Maybe I ask it this way: If TFC get into CCL based on the 2016 win, can Will Johnson play for Orlando in the same tournament?
Anyway, maybe it's all moot as I doubt there are many players who played for us last year in the tournament who have moved on (too lazy to look) and probably fewer who have joined but played in their qualifying games last year at their previous club?
It's more of a theoretical exercise at this point. But I would think the cap tie rules should be waived for 2016 participants on principle. Seems wrong that you can be disqualified from playing for your new club two years after you've moved based on the transition tournament structure.
You can't be cup tied for participation in the CCL by playing in the Voyageurs Cup. They are two completely different competitions.
Being cup tied for the CCL would be playing in the group stages for say Saprissa then moving to MLS over the offseason to a team still in the CCL knock out stages.
You're wayyyyyyyyyyyyy over thinking things man
EDIT: From CONCACAF itself
Bottom of page 17 LinkOnce having been registered on a roster for a club in any stage, a player may not be registered for any other club during the same edition of the competition.
Last edited by Areathrasher; 03-10-2017 at 04:31 PM.
Or underthinking.You're wayyyyyyyyyyyyy over thinking things man
The CSA proves how much of a joke they are. Most sensible thing to do would have this years winner face net year winner instead of changing the rules after the fact.
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