In Motta's defense, he can spray the ball around quote well from deep. But while he can offer a bit more than Cheyrou from an outside mid position and is also better defensively, not sure it would be the wisest decision to use limited cap space on a similar player.Originally Posted by shwade
We scored a record breaking amount of goals in the playoffs and a very healthy total of goals in the regular season. The narrative that we're hurting to create chances is false.
Last edited by molenshtain; 01-01-2017 at 08:25 PM.
Yes, we scored a lot of goals against certain teams (Montreal and NYCFC). And, we had issues breaking down a lot of teams, including Seattle in the final, NYCFC in the first leg, Philly in the first round and even the Fire on the final Sunday.
This lack of a chance creator was discussed in game threads through much of the season.
What we are discussing here is making the team better. A chance creator in the midfield (and lets face it, Osorio and Cooper are not that) would make us even more dangerous.
we already have one. Chapman was second in the league in chances created per 90 - right behind Kljeistan. If he was Argentinean he'd have his own cult devoted to him in this city. But he's Canadian and supposedly young (He's older than Jordan Morris) and therefore unable to do the job sustainably. I swear to god if we spend TAM on a prime age #10 im going to lose my shit.
i think we have to chill a bit with chapman has our starting #10.i dont think he is a starter period yet.
Why not? this will be his third season as a professional. He's obviously talented enough. There's no time like the present.
Like I said, give Chapman the chance to prove himself until the summer. If he's not creating enough then we can look to add in the summer window.
I like the kid and think he has potential but let him earn his place. Bestowing a guy who has never scored a goal in a MLS game and two career assists as the starter is not called for.
The case you are making over emphasizes one narrowly defined statistic in the face of not a lot of other evidence.
check mls calender today on their website
pretty sure benoit cheryou (the man the legend) is coming back
8 usmnt games this year
bradley is gonna miss a few games this year due to this
without benoit good chance of a loss in those games
with benoit good chance of a win in those games
Chapman as starter is ridiculously optimistic. He doesn't have the gravitas and the consistency (he was given a string of games in the summer). He definitely improved over the games but he still looks lost out there and unsure of what to do with the ball in the final third too often to be an actual threat.
The boy needs to put some muscle on him this off-season if he doesn't want to get nudged off the ball 8 times out of 10.
Last edited by shwade; 01-02-2017 at 12:35 PM.
Actually I am very comforable with both of them in that role. Osorio showed real signs of growing into it. Cooper, I don't get how anyone doesn't see it that way, he is our first proper AM since Guevara, his first move is forward every time.
What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.
Neither Cooper or Osorio can pick out a final pass. Chapman can. That's the difference between them.
Been saying this since we got him, just wish he'd shoot more. Still ok with grabbing a top AM tho
I think our streak of winning the offseason is about to end at 3.
Probably the best run ever seen in MLS, what with Bradley/Defoe, then Giovinco/Altidore and then Irwin/Beitashour/Johnston/Moor.
Gosh we were so shit in 2013, wern't we.
Oso is good in this role, he is creative and sees the penetrating pass. A bit too unselfish for me - always looking for Gio, even when he ( Oso) is in a better position. And while Cooper does always go forwArd, his instinct is to look for contact and the foul, so fairly often does not move the ball as quickly as play requires. I like Chapman, but both these players rank above him in technical application of skill in a game - and both still have lots of room to improve.
Bendik
Morgan-Henry-Caldwell-Eckersley
Lambe-Laba-Osorio-Convey
Earnshaw-Wiederman
(Hall,Rey,Braun,Dike)
vs
Irwin
Morrow-Hagglund-Moor-Zavaleta-Beitashour
Osorio-Bradley-Cooper
Giovinco-Altidore
(Cheyrou, Ricketts, Delgado, Chapman)
Last edited by rydermike; 01-03-2017 at 12:15 AM. Reason: typo
^ You forgot about John "Savior" Bostock!
And Hogan Ephraim! lol... what a team.
Edit: Jeremy Brockie.
I still remember the threads of some of the eternal optimists (like myself) arguing the merits of some of these guys. Ugh.
Last edited by hulkrogan; 01-03-2017 at 02:49 PM.
Kylealdo Bekkerinho...
Serious question...I think everyone agrees we need to bring in another defender. I wonder why we're not kicking the tires on trying to sign Marvell Wynne? He fits what we'd be looking for...he can play both CB and RB down the right and would give us some speed. Plus he played with Moor for 4 season and Irwin for a couple so the chemistry should be quick to get up to speed.
Just a thought
We're a technical team and he's not a technical player, more just raw speed. We need someone who can cross accurately into space.
MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto
our D is strong because it can play offence.
marvel wouldnt add anything to offence
I was thinking more as a CB than a RB. I believe he's been a CB for the last few seasons. How many crosses did our current platoon of CBs have this year?
Moor and especially Zavaleta let a few really good long balls go this year that were right on the mark. Wynne doesn't bring that. Never been good with the ball at his feet.
I think we'll see a return to the 4 man backline at the start of the season, with the Moor, Zavaleta, and Hagglund platooning at those positions, but being trot out in a 3-5-2 once in a while to give that formation some reps.
Would be nice to see another starting calibre CB picked up regardless of formation, there are a lot of games to play this year. It would be promising to see Hagglund and Zavaleta competently handle some games on their own.
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So apparently DeMarcus Beasley and Taylor Kemp (DCU) are better American LB's then Justin Morrow.
Good for us as this should light an even larger fire under Morrow.
Completely agree.
At least one CB needs to be added for depth.
I feel that with the added CCL games this upcoming year (in what ever configuration they are) that the 4-4-2 formation will be the predominant formation we use.
the 3-5-2 I feel will come in as a specialised tool used on when needed (in either MLS season, CCL, Canadian Championship, MLS Cup)
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I agree that we will see the return of 4-4-2 with probably the diamond re-emerging. We may see yet other formations.
MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto
With all the moves league wide and the tumble-weed flowing through the TFC front offices at the moment I feel like this:
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