Match Day 30 - This game is a socialist utopia Reds vs Union Sat Sept 24 5 pm

**trane** · 09-21-2016, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by GhostKiller

I think if we score some goals while shutting them out, we have a good chance at winning. Hopefully Vanney has the same strategy.

Yeah, Oldtimer, just leaving the strategy as win, win, win is too simplistic. Trying to score more goals then them is a much more tangible and analytical strategy, one that the them can follow.

Think about it, if the coach tell you, "Just go out and win", you would be like "but sir how do we do that?" The coach then has to think about it , and tell you " lets try to score more goals then the other side, if we do that we will win", then you have clear marching order, everyone is on the same page.

I hope that Vanney has adopted the lets try to score more goals then them approach. Although the best approach is do not let them score any goals, while you score at least one, is my favorites, because then you do not have to score like 10 goals, but just one, because if you just adopt lets score more goals them then as a strategy, then maybe they score 12 goals, then you have to score 13 and that can be hard to do in a 90 minute game.

I know I this kind of complicated, but there it is.

**Joe Kool** · 09-21-2016, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Mateo1985

I'm always there on time. I live like a 5 minute walk from the stadium though

Bragger...

**Mateo1985** · 09-21-2016, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by Joe Kool

Bragger...

Couldn't help it. Up until two months ago I lived 53 kms away from BMO so I had my share of shitting commutes to the stadium lmao

**Ossington Mental Youth** · 09-21-2016, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Stress

The Dufferin bus route was a gong show last weekend. They had to detour back to Lansdowne and Dundas and then realized it's closed too and basically just piled up the buses there and told people sorry and we had to get out. I was at Dufferin station nearly 1.5 hours before kick off and I was still late. Seems to be one of the popular TTC routes down there so I'm sure many people were in a similar situation as me.

better off taking the 504 from dundas w station

**Ossington Mental Youth** · 09-21-2016, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Mateo1985

I'm always there on time. I live like a 5 minute walk from the stadium though

you and me both.
I should change my name maybe

**Oldtimer** · 09-21-2016, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by trane

Yeah, Oldtimer, just leaving the strategy as win, win, win is too simplistic.

It was a joke.

**jloome** · 09-21-2016, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by Oldtimer

It was a joke.

He knows that. So was his response.

**MightyDM** · 09-21-2016, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by Ossington Mental Youth

better off taking the 504 from dundas w station

Normally. But Roncy closed for Polish festival last week

**Blindside16** · 09-22-2016, 05:37 AM

I live in Mississauga and I used to drive down to the games. It would take at least 40-45 minutes to get there and at least 1.5 hours to get home. This year I started hopping on the GO at Clarkson and I find the days are much more enjoyable. I usually aim to get to BMO an hour before kick off and haven't really had any problems so far.

**MightyDM** · 09-22-2016, 06:35 AM

Originally Posted by Super

They need to be giving out free shit for people to show up early. I'm not sure why people show up late so routinely - it's not like it's a 5 hour event. Football games are short compared to other local sports. Having said all of this, Toronto is notorious for late showing crowds. Part of the reason is shitty transit. I live at Yonge/Eg and it takes about 90 minutes for me to get to the ground using TTC + some walking. That seems like a lot - midtown to downtown west.

Have you tried subway to Union and queens quay streetcar?

**paul-collins** · 09-22-2016, 07:48 AM

Ugh, don't use the QQ streetcar. Then you have to get on the Fleet bus shuttle.

Honestly, best bet (although it costs) is the Ex GO train from Union.

**GhostKiller** · 09-22-2016, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by trane

Yeah, Oldtimer, just leaving the strategy as win, win, win is too simplistic. Trying to score more goals then them is a much more tangible and analytical strategy, one that the them can follow.

Think about it, if the coach tell you, "Just go out and win", you would be like "but sir how do we do that?" The coach then has to think about it , and tell you " lets try to score more goals then the other side, if we do that we will win", then you have clear marching order, everyone is on the same page.

I hope that Vanney has adopted the lets try to score more goals then them approach. Although the best approach is do not let them score any goals, while you score at least one, is my favorites, because then you do not have to score like 10 goals, but just one, because if you just adopt lets score more goals them then as a strategy, then maybe they score 12 goals, then you have to score 13 and that can be hard to do in a 90 minute game.

I know I this kind of complicated, but there it is.

I get where your coming from. I mean, if you just look at the stats we have not won a single game when the opposition scored more goals then us. On the inverse (I don't have the numbers in front of me) we have won much more games when we score more goals then the opposition. Its really just a numbers game.

**MightyDM** · 09-22-2016, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by paul-collins

Ugh, don't use the QQ streetcar. Then you have to get on the Fleet bus shuttle.

Honestly, best bet (although it costs) is the Ex GO train from Union.

good point. Next year!

**trane** · 09-22-2016, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by GhostKiller

I get where your coming from. I mean, if you just look at the stats we have not won a single game when the opposition scored more goals then us. On the inverse (I don't have the numbers in front of me) we have won much more games when we score more goals then the opposition. Its really just a numbers game.

Exactly, that says it all. I hopefully a good manager understand that.

I know that Jloome understands.

**Canary10** · 09-22-2016, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by trane

Exactly, that says it all. I hopefully a good manager understand that.

I know that Jloome understands.

Jloome just wants to play "good" football. Whatever that means.

**OgtheDim** · 09-22-2016, 11:47 AM

Actually the best way in is somehow getting on the Ossington bus and getting off in Liberty Village and walking over.

The streetcars are due back for January - we'll see.

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**Joe Kool** · 09-22-2016, 12:09 PM

Don't want them to rush Giovinco. I am sure he is chomping at the bit but they need to do the smart thing for a long playoff run. The team that played NYRB last week can beat Philly.

**pdogg** · 09-22-2016, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Blindside16

I live in Mississauga and I used to drive down to the games. It would take at least 40-45 minutes to get there and at least 1.5 hours to get home. This year I started hopping on the GO at Clarkson and I find the days are much more enjoyable. I usually aim to get to BMO an hour before kick off and haven't really had any problems so far.

I'm up in Brampton and do the exact same thing. Might take a bit longer, but less stressful for sure. The only downside is the cost, with it being about $15 return on the GO (w/ Presto) per person. More than 2 people int he car, and we drive down and park.

**notthesun** · 09-22-2016, 01:24 PM

I don't want them to rush Giovinco, but I also want him to win MVP again...

**Richard** · 09-22-2016, 01:38 PM

Forget about MVP as that ship has sailed.

Its all about the championship and there is no point in rushing him back, we will secure home field with our current form.

**notthesun** · 09-22-2016, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Richard

Forget about MVP as that ship has sailed.

Its all about the championship and there is no point in rushing him back, we will secure home field with our current form.

I wouldn't say that. He still leads in goals + assists by some distance, he just needs to come back and score a few times to remind everyone he's still around. If he ends the season strong and we finish 1st in the East, you'd have to put him ahead of the other candidates (Klejstan and Villa).

**notthesun** · 09-22-2016, 03:09 PM

Just announced, Cooper suspended for this game and fined after his little kick out last week. Dumb from him, but it will hurt less if Giovinco and/or Chapman can play.

**OgtheDim** · 09-22-2016, 03:14 PM

You know, I'm not happy with the suspension and kicking like that is stupdi.

But if we've got somebody else doing the hard man thing calling out falling down wasting time moves, that's a good thing. We don't want teams to like playing us anymore and if it takes a Canadian hard man and a Panamanian CONCACAF veteran to get that message across, so be it.

**Richard** · 09-22-2016, 03:39 PM

I rather we not devolve into CONFACAF scum tactics.

**mistercorporate** · 09-22-2016, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by notthesun

I don't want them to rush Giovinco, but I also want him to win MVP again...

me too.

**Detroit_TFC** · 09-22-2016, 03:48 PM

I agree with not pushing Seba back too soon but it would be a shame if the result goes TFC's way and he isn't on the bench to celebrate with the squad. MVP and Golden Boot are beyond him now unfortunately unless he goes on some sort of crazed scoring run in the last three games.

**mistercorporate** · 09-22-2016, 03:51 PM

Do the MVP and Golden Boot awards include playoff performance/goals?

**Kamp Berg** · 09-22-2016, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by mistercorporate

Do the MVP and Golden Boot awards include playoff performance/goals?

Nope

**OgtheDim** · 09-22-2016, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by Richard

I rather we not devolve into CONFACAF scum tactics.

Yeah well if you want to see the opposite of CONCACAF tactics, watch NYRB give up leads. There's a space for savvy and hard headedness and knowing when to slow the game down. I'm not for the kicking and the like and what Cooper did is wrong.

But for too long we saw teams kicking the crap out of us - glad its stopped.

**Derko** · 09-22-2016, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Richard

I rather we not devolve into CONFACAF scum tactics.

You honestly think underhanded tactics are exclusive to (by the way it is CONCACAF), you are naïve, some of the best scum tactics are played to perfection in Europe, if Cooper had of scored you would cheering, regardless of the kick, don't be so fickle.

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