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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    You must be excited to lose 4 guys to the expansion drafts then :P
    isn't the max u can lose 2?

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    Yes^

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    Per team, no? There's 2 teams entering next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    Per team, no? There's 2 teams entering next year.
    It's just Atlanta coming next year. LAFC and maybe Minnesota the year after.

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    Oh yes the expansion draft, where we take your players that you develop for our benefit because were totally all for socialism, if it makes money that is(parity), who cares about the competitive spirit of the game.

    GTFO with that concept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    Ricketts in for Altidore in the 60th minute, maybe?
    I'd rathe Ricketts for Endoh and keep Altidore on the pitch. Ricketts will be a great super sub till he gets to full match fitness.

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    Whole point is the competitive spirit of the game. No real harm in letting a new club getting two squad players so they aren't signing USL and NASL players to fill out there squad for the first year or two, leaving them shit and at the bottom of the pack to start off. Sure fire way of killing any momentum you've built on your way in. It's also a good way to get unwanted squad players off your roster.

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    I'd love to be in the room when they explain to Seba that Atlanta took 2 players for free. Just because.

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    Quote Originally Posted by molenshtain View Post
    Whole point is the competitive spirit of the game. No real harm in letting a new club getting two squad players so they aren't signing USL and NASL players to fill out there squad for the first year or two, leaving them shit and at the bottom of the pack to start off. Sure fire way of killing any momentum you've built on your way in. It's also a good way to get unwanted squad players off your roster.
    except these teams aren't stupid... They don't take trash (usually). And who do we have on our roster that we'd be OK with getting taken?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    except these teams aren't stupid... They don't take trash (usually). And who do we have on our roster that we'd be OK with getting taken?
    Lovitz. And I would be disappointed but I'd survive if we lost Williams, maybe Simonin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    except these teams aren't stupid... They don't take trash (usually). And who do we have on our roster that we'd be OK with getting taken?

    well they'd have to. They don't have any other options to fill out their squad with American players and meet roster requirements.

    If the expansion draft was today, my protected list would probably look something like this

    Protected:
    Seba
    Bradley
    Johnson
    Irwin
    Morrow or Morgan
    Beitashour
    Osorio
    Delgado
    Endoh
    Moor
    Hagglund or Zavs

    that leaves Ricketts, Bloom, Bono, Roberts, Hamilton, Balbouli, Altidore, Williams, Chapman, Mannella, Simonin, Cheyrou Lovitz and two of Hagglund, Zavs, Morrow and Morgan. Bono is a GA, so he's automatically protected. Same goes for Hamilton, Chapman, Mannella and Roberts because they're still on their homegrown contracts.

    So that leaves us with Ricketts, Bloom, Williams, Simonin, Cheyrou, Lovitz, Altidore, Hagglund or Zavs, Morrow or Morgan. Ricketts, Morgan and Simonin would be internationals on Atlanta, so a good bet they wouldn't take them. Cheyrou will be 35, I doubt they'd take him. It's a gamble, but I assume Atlanta will think they can get better value on their dp's then what they would get for Altidore (they also just signed an expensive target man in Kenwyne Jones). Then there's just Lovitz, Bloom, Williams, Hagglund or Zavs, and Morrow. Those guys are expendable. nice guys to have on the squad, but not at all the end of the world if we have to give them up. We'd probably end up losing Bloom (he was at Atlanta before, and presumably wants to get back to his wife and newborn, who are stationed in North Florida) and one of our cb's.

    Anyway, we should get back on topic. I think this is a classic trap game. Heat, tough defense, both mentally and physically tired squad. 1-0 Houston.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    except these teams aren't stupid... They don't take trash (usually). And who do we have on our roster that we'd be OK with getting taken?
    Actually if you look at the last expansion draft very few players are doing at all well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Oh yes the expansion draft, where we take your players that you develop for our benefit because were totally all for socialism, if it makes money that is(parity), who cares about the competitive spirit of the game.

    GTFO with that concept.
    I think in this case the league would be much better off in terms of preventing the dilution of talent if they let expansion teams not have to put transfer fees on their cap for a full year plus anytime prior. I think that would allow them to bring new players into the league on transfers that usually wouldn't happen because the fees would create insane cap hits. For example, players from NASL USL and Central America that might be classified as DP's or warrant high cap hits would be brought into the league and increase the amount of talent rather than dilute it, in this manner. Not to mention this would allow teams to keep the talent they've acquired/developed, though I do believe in the overall "socialist" policy of the league.

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    I do think the Houston fans are down on their team right now. I received a text offer from the Dynamo yesterday for special $30 tickets. I expect a half empty stadium. Look for our reds shirts second level.

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    FYI, there's been talk that there won't be an expansion draft and they will just give Minny and Atlanta extra allocation money and international spots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercorporate View Post
    I'd rathe Ricketts for Endoh and keep Altidore on the pitch. Ricketts will be a great super sub till he gets to full match fitness.
    Altidore injury history plus 35 degree heat makes me speculative of that plan. I'd say give him 45 minutes tops - it's one game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by molenshtain View Post
    well they'd have to. They don't have any other options to fill out their squad with American players and meet roster requirements.

    If the expansion draft was today, my protected list would probably look something like this

    Protected:
    Seba
    Bradley
    Johnson
    Irwin
    Morrow or Morgan
    Beitashour
    Osorio
    Delgado
    Endoh
    Moor
    Hagglund or Zavs

    that leaves Ricketts, Bloom, Bono, Roberts, Hamilton, Balbouli, Altidore, Williams, Chapman, Mannella, Simonin, Cheyrou Lovitz and two of Hagglund, Zavs, Morrow and Morgan. Bono is a GA, so he's automatically protected. Same goes for Hamilton, Chapman, Mannella and Roberts because they're still on their homegrown contracts.

    So that leaves us with Ricketts, Bloom, Williams, Simonin, Cheyrou, Lovitz, Altidore, Hagglund or Zavs, Morrow or Morgan. Ricketts, Morgan and Simonin would be internationals on Atlanta, so a good bet they wouldn't take them. Cheyrou will be 35, I doubt they'd take him. It's a gamble, but I assume Atlanta will think they can get better value on their dp's then what they would get for Altidore (they also just signed an expensive target man in Kenwyne Jones). Then there's just Lovitz, Bloom, Williams, Hagglund or Zavs, and Morrow. Those guys are expendable. nice guys to have on the squad, but not at all the end of the world if we have to give them up. We'd probably end up losing Bloom (he was at Atlanta before, and presumably wants to get back to his wife and newborn, who are stationed in North Florida) and one of our cb's.

    Anyway, we should get back on topic. I think this is a classic trap game. Heat, tough defense, both mentally and physically tired squad. 1-0 Houston.
    This should be Bez's list also. Seems like this list will make us not to lose a lot of our depth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Areathrasher View Post
    FYI, there's been talk that there won't be an expansion draft and they will just give Minny and Atlanta extra allocation money and international spots.
    Hadn't heard about that. Interesting if true. The biggest thing the expansion draft does is allow new teams to fill out their depth charts pretty handily with domestic players, something every successful team needs to do in this league. I don't know if the other option you mention would give us the same outcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by molenshtain View Post
    Hadn't heard about that. Interesting if true. The biggest thing the expansion draft does is allow new teams to fill out their depth charts pretty handily with domestic players, something every successful team needs to do in this league. I don't know if the other option you mention would give us the same outcome.
    Minny coming into the league gets announced next week. Should be some clarity around what's going to happen soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Areathrasher View Post
    FYI, there's been talk that there won't be an expansion draft and they will just give Minny and Atlanta extra allocation money and international spots.
    Heres hoping. The expansion draft is ridiculous considering there are players for this sport that could play in this league all over the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruffian View Post
    This should be Bez's list also. Seems like this list will make us not to lose a lot of our depth.
    They'd probably protect Morrow than Morgan. Morgan would be an international and most likely wouldn't get picked up. Also Zavs is ahead of Hagglund on the depth chart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ag futbol View Post
    Altidore injury history plus 35 degree heat makes me speculative of that plan. I'd say give him 45 minutes tops - it's one game.
    I agree. Vanny knows that if Altidore picks up another injury this year he is done. He's using him very sparingly and it's working. He's scored twice since coming on as a super sub and he has useful backups in Ricketts and Jham. No need to push him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostKiller View Post
    I agree. Vanny knows that if Altidore picks up another injury this year he is done. He's using him very sparingly and it's working. He's scored twice since coming on as a super sub and he has useful backups in Ricketts and Jham. No need to push him.
    And they're calling for thunderstorms at match time so if the pitch is sloppy like it usually is when wet down there, I'd sit Jozy.

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    Hmm....Beitashour might be out for this one.




    Leading to


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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Hmm....Beitashour might be out for this one.




    Leading to


    I take it they don't trust a straight swap putting in Bloom for Beitashour? Doesn't say much about the depth if the team would rather change a formation versus putting in a backup right back.

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    You missed the game last Saturday?

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    Crap...its his hip. I always have a bad feeling about hip injuries.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruffian View Post
    This should be Bez's list also. Seems like this list will make us not to lose a lot of our depth.
    Yes, molenshtain made an excellent list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Hmm....Beitashour might be out for this one.




    Leading to


    3 defenders, an excellent Italian style formation for teams with elite defenders. This is why our little Italian scored so many goals, tons of support and distractions for him to have his way!
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    I was up at training on Wednesday. I wouldn't be surprised if Toronto FC started Saturday's match in a 5-3-2, with Bloom/Morgan wide, though Morrow could still start.

 

 

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