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    Quote Originally Posted by notthesun View Post
    I kind of doubt the willingness of MLSE to pay more large transfer fees. We paid $10 million to get Defoe and had to give him away for free to get a return, $3 million for Gilberto who we gave away, $10 million for Bradley. Meanwhile we sign Giovinco on a free and he's the best player in the league. If I'm on the MLSE board I'm looking at the return I'm getting for all these big transfer fees and thinking it makes more sense to sign guys without a contract. Llorente is under contract for another 2 years and has a €20 million buyout clause.

    So, purely in the interest or stirring things up:

    Emmanuel Adebayor's contract is up in a month. He's already said he plans to leave and I'm pretty sure we were linked to him once before. History of attitude problems, of course.

    Dani Osvaldo. Italian connection with Giovinco - good. Currently without a contract because he was caught smoking a cigarette in a bathroom after a game - bad. Even longer history of attitude problems than Adebayor, but hey, it would be a free transfer.

    Cheick Diabaté. 28 years old, 6 ft. 4 target striker, contract with Bordeaux ending in a month. Good scoring record in Ligue 1: 10 goals in 17 starts this year, 8 in 13 the year before, 12 in 18 year before that. Claimed to the press a week ago that he hasn't received a new contract offer from Bordeaux, even though it sounds like he has. Sounds great to me... until you realize he hasn't started over 18 games in a season for at least the last 6 years, if not more. Long injury history. Sigh. I'd sign this guy in a second if he could stay healthy. Scores a boatload of goals off crosses from what I've seen.
    This is what we get for springing for it once. Now everybody expects us to try and operate like foreign leagues. We're not there yet. Not every year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notthesun View Post
    I kind of doubt the willingness of MLSE to pay more large transfer fees. We paid $10 million to get Defoe and had to give him away for free to get a return, $3 million for Gilberto who we gave away, $10 million for Bradley. Meanwhile we sign Giovinco on a free and he's the best player in the league. If I'm on the MLSE board I'm looking at the return I'm getting for all these big transfer fees and thinking it makes more sense to sign guys without a contract. Llorente is under contract for another 2 years and has a €20 million buyout clause.
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    This.
    TL is gone. We are not going pay big bucks for DPs anymore. I don't even see us taking on salary. MB and jozy have been a disaster financially and on the pitch. No one is championing this that the board level any more. Enjoy these guys while you can.
    In 3 years we will have the same model as NYRB, Portland, etc.

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    Jozy to play full 90 today?

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    Maybe, we do play Wednesday and sat so minutes need to be managed this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onyx View Post
    This.
    TL is gone. We are not going pay big bucks for DPs anymore. I don't even see us taking on salary. MB and jozy have been a disaster financially and on the pitch. No one is championing this that the board level any more. Enjoy these guys while you can.
    In 3 years we will have the same model as NYRB, Portland, etc.
    I'm fine with a prototypical MLS model if it is successful on the pitch. The Lieweke model was unsustainable from the get go.

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    Great game on a streak

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    He's really in form now. If he can keep this up we're gonna look real scary come playoffs.

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    “Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.

    I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’

    And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”

    -Eduardo Galeano

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    We need to make a TIFO of him as "The Bull".
    TORONTO FC, 2017 MLS CHAMPIONS!!! (Still the greatest in league history!)

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    El Toro

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    A Spanish nickname doesn't apply to Altidore anymore, that's dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    El Toro
    isn't that Blas Perez's nickname?
    “Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.

    I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’

    And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”

    -Eduardo Galeano

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    If wikipedia doesn't say so, is it true?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Toro_(nickname)

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    Jozy is already The Beast!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Onyx View Post
    This.
    TL is gone. We are not going pay big bucks for DPs anymore. I don't even see us taking on salary. MB and jozy have been a disaster financially and on the pitch. No one is championing this that the board level any more. Enjoy these guys while you can.
    In 3 years we will have the same model as NYRB, Portland, etc.
    I think the opposite. This team was the worst in MLS before they started paying big bucks for players. They changed their budget strategy and started winning. A couple of home playoff games, maybe an MLS Cup final + champions league games that will be part of our season ticket packages in 2017 will mean additional income for the team.

    They expanded and renovated BMO Field to accommodate the new demand for tickets brought on by Defoe level players. This is the new business model going forward.

    Th Redbulls tried to do the same thing with Henry/Rafa and Cahill but average home attendance peaked at 19,691 in 2011 and dropped to the low 18,281 in 2012. Fans didn't show up to a brand new stadium and to see their star studded lineup. The opposite has happened in Toronto and we are averaging 27,000 per game. If this team can go far in the playoffs, weekly sellouts are not hard to imagine.

    In Portland, Merritt Paulson, son of George W. Bush Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson does not have the personal cash to spend like TFC.

    If TFC fails to do anything in the playoffs over the next few years and home attendance drops significantly, they might take another look at the business model, but for now, there is now way we are going to cut payroll by 300% over the next few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManUtd4ever View Post
    I'm fine with a prototypical MLS model if it is successful on the pitch. The Lieweke model was unsustainable from the get go.
    Why is a $22 million payroll unsustainable? Please explain.

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    http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2016/0...le-larin-stack
    comparing Altidore to Drogba and Larin
    “Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.

    I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’

    And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”

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    In the 14 games Altidore has played this year, Giovinco has 14 goals and seven assists. He has just two strikes and four helpers in the 10 games Altidore has missed. That’s a pretty remarkable split.

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    Jozy is a beast and no one doubt that !! Simply great to see, well worth every penny. Makes Seba even better.

    Remember The Man, The Legend, The Goal 5-12-07 and All That #9 Left On The Pitch, Thanks For The Memories !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by anto7 View Post
    In the 14 games Altidore has played this year, Giovinco has 14 goals and seven assists. He has just two strikes and four helpers in the 10 games Altidore has missed. That’s a pretty remarkable split.
    I am not surprised by this at all, we are better with him, I expected it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red CB Toronto View Post
    Jozy is a beast and no one doubt that !! Simply great to see, well worth every penny. Makes Seba even better.
    It's Seba who is making his team mates better. Jozy is good, but nowhere near the same level as Giovinco.

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    I did not know he was a Dad.

    http://www.torontofc.ca/post/2016/08...-jozy-altidore


    And if he wasn't playing, he'd have been an engineer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronzilla View Post
    It's Seba who is making his team mates better. Jozy is good, but nowhere near the same level as Giovinco.
    What they both can't improve the players around them?

    Seba has a thread, too.
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    With a reference to Mojo Nixon

    When I look out into your eyes out there,
    When I look out into your faces,
    You know what I see?
    I see a little bit of Seba
    In each and every one of you out there.

    Lemme tell ya...
    Weeeeeeeeeellllllll...

    Seba is everywhere
    Seba is everything
    Seba is everybody
    Seba is still the king

    Man o man
    What I want you to see
    Is that the big S's
    Inside of you and me

    Seba is everywhere, man!
    He's in everything.
    He's in everybody...

    Seba is in your jeans.
    He's in your latte
    Seba is in Nuttella!
    Seba is in your mom!

    He's in everybody.
    He's in the young, the old,
    the fat, the skinny,
    the white, the black
    the brown and the blue (but he prefers the red)
    people got Seba in 'em too

    Seba is in everybody out there.
    Everybody's got Seba in them!
    Everybody except one person that is...
    Yeah, one person!
    The evil opposite of Seba.
    The Anti-Seba

    Anti-Seba got no Seba in 'em,
    lemme tell ya.

    Bob McCowan has no Seba in him.

    And Seba is in Rosie DiManno
    but he's trying to get out, man!
    He's trying to get out!
    Listen up Rosie Baby!

    Seba is everywhere
    Seba is everything
    Seba is everybody
    Seba is still the king

    Man o man
    What I want you to see
    Is that the big S's
    Inside of you and me

    Man, there's a lot of unexplained phenomenon
    out there in the world.
    Lot of things people say
    What the heck's going on?

    Let me tell ya!

    Who built the pyramids?
    SEBA!
    Who built Stonehenge?
    SEBA!

    Yeah, man you see guys
    walking down the street
    pushing shopping carts
    and you think they're talking to allah,
    they're talking to themself.
    Man, no they're talking to SEBA!
    SEBA! SEBA!

    You know whats going on in that Bermuda Triangle?
    Down in the Bermuda Traingle
    Seba needs boats.
    Seba needs boats.
    Seba Seba Seba
    Seba Seba Seba
    Seba needs boats.

    Aahh! The Sailing Seba!
    Captain Seba!
    Commodore Seba it is.

    Yeah man, you know people from outer space,
    people from outer space they come up to me.
    They don't look like like Doctor Spock.
    They don't look like Klingons,
    all that Star Trek jive.

    They look like Seba.
    SEBA!
    Everybody in outer space looks like Seba.
    Cause Seba is a perfect being.
    We are all moving in perfect peace and harmony towards Sebabess

    Soon all will become Seba.
    Everything everywhere will be Seba.
    Why do you think they call it evolution anyway?
    It's really Sebaslution!
    Sebaslution!

    Seba is everywhere
    Seba is everything
    Seba is everybody
    Sebai s still the king

    Man o man
    What I want you to see
    Is that the big S's
    Inside of you and me

    That's right ladies and gentlemen,
    The time has come!
    Time has come to talk
    To that little bit of Seba inside of you.

    Talk to it!
    Call it up!
    Say "Seba, heal me!"
    "Save me, Seba!"
    "Make me be born again
    in the perfect Seba light"

    That's right!
    You've got that Seba inside of ya
    and he's talkin to ya
    He says he wants you to play soccer!
    Everybody's got to play soccer like the Atomic Ant!

    Like the Atomic Ant
    Get that leg going now
    Get your hip too.
    Not no fool Drogba hip either
    Everybody!
    Yeah, we're rockin now!

    Seba is with us.
    He's with us and he's speaking to us.
    He says "Peoples!"
    "Peoples!"
    "Everybody!"
    "Everybody got to play futball!"

    Seba is everywhere
    Seba is everything
    Seba is everybody
    Seba is still the king

    Man o man
    What I want you to see
    Is that the big S's
    Inside of you and me

    Seba is everywhere
    Seba is everything
    Seba is everybody
    Seba is still the king

    Man o man
    What I want you to see
    Is that the big S's
    Inside of you and me







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    If you must know...the original

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    Jozy puts one past the T&T keeper, great finish.

    He's been in fine form this summer for club & country...keep it up jozy!

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    Spoke to soon...what a pass by Pulisic to Altidore. Make that 2 goals!

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    Jozy with the brace tonight for the US in their WCQ.

    Remember The Man, The Legend, The Goal 5-12-07 and All That #9 Left On The Pitch, Thanks For The Memories !!!

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    JA looked great tonight. Bodes well for that thing that happens after the regular season games are done but before the MLS Cup game. :/

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    What I would give to have a player like Pulisic on our Canadian team. (He's 17 and playing for Dortmund ffs!). Hell and at this point the way our striker have been playing/finishing I'd take Jozy too!

 

 

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