Let's start with an article by John Molinaro:http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/vanne...-start-season/
Let's start with an article by John Molinaro:http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/vanne...-start-season/
MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto
Vanney has won me over. He is a completely different tactical coach this year, it's like he watched all of the TFC games he had ever coached, realized what he was doing wrong, and changed it. Plus he has instilled positional discipline in Bradley and a work rate in Jozy, both of which are significant accomplishments. Finally, he has been giving minutes to people to keep them fresh ( Williams, Mo, Chapman) or for tactical reasons ( Endoh, Morgan), which is good squad management. Well done.
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Well, Vanney has had 3 transfer windows to build the type of squad he wants, so now is probably a good point to start evaluating how he's done and throw out the last two years of results. I think Vanney has always had it in him to be a decent coach, but now he has the players that are at least decent at their positions. Who would have thought just 4 personnel changes would make such a big difference to the defence? Or is that due to Vanney making an adjustment from being offence-oriented last year to defence-oriented this year?
Years have gone by and Ive finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
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And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I dont give a damn which team or country performs it.
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I think he's handled this road trip well, but until we see how the team plays at home I'm not ready to make a full evaluation. I will say I have always wanted him to work out (because the constant turnover clearly wasn't) and so far I'm quite hopeful.
TFC management changes: "like adding a new fish to your aquarium of failure." - Shakes
The interview on Saturday seemed to indicate that the diamond / 2-3-2-1-2 that was played against Montreal is the preferred offensive oriented route for this team. Lets see how we do against teams that can clog up the middle and have fast width - i.e. Portland and Dallas.
TFC has 11 points from 7 consecutive away games. I think there are few clubs in MLS today that would be able to accomplish the same or better that achievement. We've won more games than we've lost on the road and tied two matches - that's over 1.5 points per game! And while I haven't been able to catch all games from start-to-finish, I am noticing an overall improvement of the team and of some of the coaching decisions.
Vanney absolutely deserve his share of credit for how this team is shaping up. And I find it interesting what Molinaro wrote about Giovinco's role here. Despite how many goals Gio has bagged for us, nevermind attempts on net, we are not playing with with the intention of one player carrying the entire weight of the attack. We still continue to play a well-balanced game (for the most part) where everyone is expected to play their role, it just happens that we have a stellar striker who will find the back of the net when he's serviced well (IMPORTANT!) and supported. And obviously on the defensive side of things, we're basically night and day compared to last season. Very cohesive and I'm betting communication between the backline and mids are much better this season.
Up until now I've been rather on-the-fence with Vanney, but lately I've been very pleased with how this team is coming together - and winning.
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Did the USA , of all countries, just fix soccer? - C. Ronaldo, May 27th commenting on the FBI-led investigations into fraud and corruption throughout FIFA.
Vanneys test will come when Giovinco leaves for France.
I really don't see Conte calling out Seba... They have a lot of strikers with similar skill sets and the fact they are playing in Europe will give them the edge.
Also, Seba came is as a sub in the second of two friendlies, it is not like he started. I really don't see it happening
Even if he does, which I doubt, I think we will be okay. Last year we were in shoot outs and needed to be bailed out. When and if he goes to the Euros then I expect to see us playing a similar set up and style to what we've seen on the road. That type of play translates well when players are missing. Low scoring affairs and tight everywhere.
Playing it tight was key; I was thinking about how Vanney set up against Montreal, and it was still a first-and-foremost defensive look. Our two fullbacks pretty much stayed rooted to the backline for most of the night. There was no crossover, no attempt to push huge numbers forward. It was more like "they have specialists, we have specialists, so tonight everybody plays a role." Bradley was purely defensive, Johnson was two-way linkage and defending, Oso was one-way offensive, and the back was flat, which made it nearly impossible for Montreal to find space wide, which is where they normally start moves.
Wardrobe choices this season have been sub-par. I was really digging the 80's Miami Beach vibe last year.
Still not sold on him but things are looking better. I still shudder at what this team would look like without Giovinco, he's without a doubt carrying us and making Vanney look good in the process.
Sorry to be a downer, but that's my perspective.
MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto
Respectfully disagree. Having a player like Giovinco prevents a full commitment from the opposing offense. We're way less likely to be pinned in our own box like years before when we've got such a potent counter attack threat. That's not Vanney's set up either, it's an outstanding individual that's putting the fear in the opposition.
That's fine... this game is a game of opinions! I like your respectful style.
It could be argued at Altidore's hold up play has more of a direct effect on opponents' defense than Giovinco's because he stretches and distorts their shape.
I actually believe that you build from behind, and defense is important in this league. If you look at RSL when they reached the CCL final in 2011 it was not based as much on Saborio's offensive play as it was team defending. That's what I'm seeing in the current TFC. But that's my opinion.
MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto
Yet last year Giovinco played every game but we still had the tied-league worst defense?
Oldtimer is correct. Giovinco has little to do with our improved defense. It's down to Bez's acquisitions in the off-season, and tactical adjustments from Vanney (making Bradley a full-time defensive mid in particular).
Goals conceded don't tell the whole story if you are forced to play a different style to mitigate damage.
Good line + no outlet = shaky team
Bad line + MVP outlet = shaky team
Bad line + No outlet = Fucked
Good line + MVP outlet = Well, you understand.
It could be (gasp) a combination of things.
Nothing to really complain about right now, the Reds had the big victory in Montreal and have started the season out reasonable well with all these road games.
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I think its fair that we all agree on this:
We ALL want Greg Vanney to be TFC head coach at the end of the 2016 campaign
Because if he's not then its gone all to shit again.