That reminds me - TFC has supporter privileges back as of the NER game.
That reminds me - TFC has supporter privileges back as of the NER game.
http://www.mlssoccer.com/fans/code-of-conduct
*NOTE: The use of streamers and confetti as an expression of fan enthusiasm is not prohibited, but will be kept under review. Streamers are not to be used to impact the competition and/or thrown at or toward a player, referee or stadium staff member.
Toronto 'til I die - but I think they're trying to kill me.
Yeah I mean it's one thing to cite hypocrisy, but it's not like that is going to get you off the hook.
From a purely PR perspective, no one really cares enough about these bans. I think everyone is sympathetic to a point, but when rules are broken that's where the sympathy fades away and where the PR war is lost.
MLS venues also have a policy against swearing... I can't wait till bans are being handed out to people for swearing.
Or when 112 gets sanctioned for throwing streamers at the corner.
People know that streamers are not supposed to land on the field though.Originally Posted by Ivy
You're also not supposed to be drunk at the stadium either so...
http://bmofield.com/alcohol-policy/
* A person may not enter the stadium in an intoxicated state.
* Intoxication in a public place is a criminal offence. Any person found on the property in an intoxicated state may be removed from the premises.
Toronto 'til I die - but I think they're trying to kill me.
Good thing none of us ever throw steamers at players, or get drunk at games.
I know, right? Drinking is for losers.
Streamers used to be thrown on the field all the time, but not so much any more because people know that throwing them at the field can get you booted.
Toronto 'til I die - but I think they're trying to kill me.
BUT an establishment of rules. League/SG interaction is the big ask. I'm not even asking for that.
I think people are getting detoured by what COULD happen and leaving out that progress isn't that difficult if the first step is taken.
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Hint, hint, TRAVELERS!!!
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I'm sure if swearing bothers people, it can be reported and dealt with.
Though it's not as clearly explained as smoke, flares and streamers .
The issue here is not the specifics of this particular incident but the general concern that MLS (and to a lesser degree MLSE) move the goalposts around the implementation of security and of the rules willy-nilly.
Selective enforcement when it suits them is the reason why this kind of crap takes place.
"And cheer in a respectful manner." The 90's were another world.
So if somebody in 112 gets banned for throwing a streamer, you wouldn't care? Just be like "hey, it's in the rules, so.... Too bad so sad?"
Exactly. And it's disheartening to see supporters that agree with these individual decisions and don't stand up wanting to create a unique soccer supporter atmosphere. But hey, maybe it's just my immigrant background talking..
I mean, yeah.
Two / three years ago I would have been mad, but after paying attention to the rather heavy handed message being sent from above, I stopped bringing them to games. I would be upset, but I wouldn't have a leg to stand on really.
I think this is the heart of the matter. I like streamers. I think they add to a fun atmosphere and that it's silly they would be banned, but I can't really justify doing it cause the risk isn't worth the reward. At least you get smoke supplied by the club that you can use whenever you want (or many times). There is no club mechanism for me to fire streamers in front of the feet of players on corners.
The real dumb part about the streamers/confetti rule is that many clubs fire the stuff off at the start of the game and it litters the pitch anyway. It's almost like "hey that's our marketing tool, you're not allowed to have fun with it"
This is one of the main reasons why I left RPB. Being in a supporter group means more to me than paying 25$ and having "Member" written under my board name.
Care to elaborate? Not really sure what one has to do with the other.
Not really what was being discussed but whatever you like, I guess.
What we're asking for is consistency. Having something to reference and then working from there.
If you want to pick and choose rules then you're not going to be the one they want to make agreements with anyway.
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
It's more about allowing people to throw things that could injure players. Not the pitch condition.
Plenty of members not on the board, Ivy. But, hey, you know all that...
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Red4 and Ivy, both of you can take it to PMs to get personal.
Leave any personal jabs out, thanks.
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
Not sure if a streamer on a corner could hurt someone, maybe if somebody tied a coin or rock to one end to make it go further.
And I agree with that, but I would say the spirit prohibiting streamers is that it's easier to ban everything thrown than it is to identify what is being thrown.
That's really the only sense in which I agree with a streamer ban.
I don't think there are any personal jabs, is there Red? We just have a disagree of opinion.. (Again :P)
To answer your question Cal - I feel that there is no longer any comradery in the group. It claims to be independent from the club and doesn't take any finances from the club to fund game day experience for members, mean while it works very much on the "you say jump, I say how high" mentality. The club smoke is another thing we'll disagree on. The group will claim that it fought the FO hard to get the smoke approved, but to me, it was the FO that played the SG, by letting us have smoke, but the club says who, when, where, and how it's deployed.
You probably dont don't know this story, and I'll gladly share it with you off the boards, but the club toon away RPBs smoke during the Red Bulls game last year. The one we clinched playoffs on... But like I said, long story.
What if someone gets tangled up and trips?
In all seriousness though I hope we all agree that spectators should not throw anything on the field.
Toronto 'til I die - but I think they're trying to kill me.
Yeah I was being pre-emptive. As you say, it's not the first time.
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
I think Beckham enjoyed it.
Yes that is agreed upon... although how funny would it be to see a mtl player trip on streamers during a corner?
I'm laughing right now.
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