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    Well one thing is for sure - Seba is not a #9. The number of long balls from the back in the first two games has been alarming. It won't be a 4-4-2 as much as a 4-5-1 with Seba in the free role behind Jozy. All MLS teams have a weakness on either the left or right back position due to the stupid salary cap. Seba is free to move around and pick the weak points out. Jozy holds the ball up- wins long balls and cleans up in the six yard box. That's good enough.

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    For a little fuel in the debate fire, other MLS players pick Bradley and Altidore among the most overrated, Vanney as one of four coaches no one picked to play for:

    http://www.espnfc.com/major-league-s...in-player-poll

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    There might be buzz that the players dont respect him as a coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercorporate View Post
    There might be buzz that the players dont respect him as a coach.
    Or alternatively, few players who we've let go in the Vanney era are still in the league. No one knows anything about him so no one is going out of their way to play on a 'vanney team'.

    There's no buzz that the players don't like him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by molenshtain View Post
    Or alternatively, few players who we've let go in the Vanney era are still in the league. No one knows anything about him so no one is going out of their way to play on a 'vanney team'.

    There's no buzz that the players don't like him.
    I'm inclined to agree with this. He's had one year as a coach, did soso, no ones going to pick him over Jesse Marsch or Brucie

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    Quote Originally Posted by molenshtain View Post
    Or alternatively, few players who we've let go in the Vanney era are still in the league. No one knows anything about him so no one is going out of their way to play on a 'vanney team'.

    There's no buzz that the players don't like him.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ossington Mental Youth View Post
    I'm inclined to agree with this. He's had one year as a coach, did soso, no ones going to pick him over Jesse Marsch or Brucie
    These two, together; would have thought it obvious, but thanks for saying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    Seeing as we want a budget forward, I can't see how there isn't someone with some upside playing in the NASL who fits that bill.
    Giorgos Samaras

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prof View Post
    Giorgos Samaras
    Don't think his official salary was ever released by OKC but considering he was touted as a pretty big signing by them, he would most certainly be out of our current budget. On top of that, Samaras is wayyyyyy past it... like one of the most washed up players to make their way over to the MLS/NASL imo.

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    Sounders pick up Herc off waivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Detroit_TFC View Post
    Sounders pick up Herc off waivers.
    Not sure what happened with him. Maybe they wanted more head in the game, less head in the twitterverse. He looked good the few times we used him, hungry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Detroit_TFC View Post
    Sounders pick up Herc off waivers.
    hopefully this means some kind of cap space opens up

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    hopefully this means some kind of cap space opens up
    I came here to get a definite answer to this question. I will probably get two different answers that are both correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruffian View Post
    I came here to get a definite answer to this question. I will probably get two different answers that are both correct.
    all we really need is like 100-200k for a backup to Jozy and then I'll be happy as I can be with the squad. Ideally we'd have a more experienced winger opposite Seba but the cap just won't let that happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    hopefully this means some kind of cap space opens up
    Lagerwey: Toronto on the hook for a "significant chunk" of Gomez's salary
    “Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.

    I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’

    And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yohan View Post
    Lagerwey: Toronto on the hook for a "significant chunk" of Gomez's salary
    Bez is on the hook for this, we never should have signed him

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    The thinking behind some of these transactions uses a form of logic that I just can't grasp. I understand the motivation for moving HG out was to open a space but why the hell would you agree to eat his wage bill? Maybe since they are compliant right now (or close enough for apparently loose cap enforcement by MLSHQ) it didn't matter? IDK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yohan View Post
    Lagerwey: Toronto on the hook for a "significant chunk" of Gomez's salary
    Spin all over the place on this one. His contract with us only runs until the end of June.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Spin all over the place on this one. His contract with us only runs until the end of June.
    I agree. Sounds like lies.

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    Impossible to say with MLS's arcane levels of disclosure.

    At face value our moves at the end of pre season reeked of a team desperate to shed salary. I do not think the whole Gomez saga reflects favourably on Bez, regardless of how much Laggerway is stretching the truth.

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    Herc drops the hammer

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    Quote Originally Posted by ag futbol View Post
    Impossible to say with MLS's arcane levels of disclosure.

    At face value our moves at the end of pre season reeked of a team desperate to shed salary. I do not think the whole Gomez saga reflects favourably on Bez, regardless of how much Laggerway is stretching the truth.
    Not really, because we never cleared any salary. If anything it sounds like TFC is actually thinking of it's impact on it's players for once. Moore wanted more first team football but they couldn't guarantee it. I assume it was a similar situation for Herc and/or his contract was up in June, they knew they wouldn't be able to renegotiate a win/win extension so they let him go at the start of the season to give him more time to find another team.

    So yes, eating the salary doesn't look good but at least you don't have players festering on the bench and you're improving your reputation as an organization (not screwing players over). We don't know the full extent of our cap situation so it's hard to really comment if these are having as bad of a negative impact as we assume.

    On the other hand, all the GAM/TAM trades were more likely the desperation to be cap compliant.


    EDIT: LOL based on Herc's comments above, ignore my post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Areathrasher View Post


    Herc drops the hammer
    throwin shade

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    I like Herc but saying "Its not about the money anymore", which he also said today, is just aggravating. Its a cap league. Its ALWAYS about the ROI.

    And, wait, didn't he say just about the same thing when he came here?


    Last edited by OgtheDim; 03-24-2016 at 03:06 PM.

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    What a great fuckin move that is. I miss Costner in his prime. Great era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Areathrasher View Post


    Herc drops the hammer
    Mark your calendars - we play Seattle at BMO on July 2nd.

    I'm pretty sure his frustration is being kept around for the entirety of preseason before being dropped right before the roster compliance date. We had cap issues, no solution was found with Moore or elsewhere, so we had to drop Gomez too. I'm sure he's upset Moore got to go on trial and weigh his options away from the team while he had to train for nothing. Like Kantari, unfortunately he was another expensive, slightly desperate signing by Bez to ensure we made the playoffs last year. Thankfully the long term damage to the team appears to be pretty minimal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notthesun View Post
    Mark your calendars - we play Seattle at BMO on July 2nd.

    I'm pretty sure his frustration is being kept around for the entirety of preseason before being dropped right before the roster compliance date. We had cap issues, no solution was found with Moore or elsewhere, so we had to drop Gomez too. I'm sure he's upset Moore got to go on trial and weigh his options away from the team while he had to train for nothing. Like Kantari, unfortunately he was another expensive, slightly desperate signing by Bez to ensure we made the playoffs last year. Thankfully the long term damage to the team appears to be pretty minimal.
    lol he was so nice about being dropped until he got signed

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    Quote Originally Posted by notthesun View Post
    Mark your calendars - we play Seattle at BMO on July 2nd.

    I'm pretty sure his frustration is being kept around for the entirety of preseason before being dropped right before the roster compliance date. We had cap issues, no solution was found with Moore or elsewhere, so we had to drop Gomez too. I'm sure he's upset Moore got to go on trial and weigh his options away from the team while he had to train for nothing. Like Kantari, unfortunately he was another expensive, slightly desperate signing by Bez to ensure we made the playoffs last year. Thankfully the long term damage to the team appears to be pretty minimal.
    I remember he use to kill us during CCL. so he's going to score a hat trick on 2 Jul
    “Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.

    I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’

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    I think I'm more irritated with Vanney for not using him rather than Bez bringing him in over Vanney's objections (only guessing here). Still, seems promises were made that weren't kept and TFC player relations gets another bruise. I thought we were done with that kind of crap.

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    This is more MLS's fault because they negotiated a contract that ran out in June. Not really TFC's fault to try and renegotiate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Areathrasher View Post


    Herc drops the hammer
    I'd side with the player on stuff like this 4 years ago. But now... Hmmm... I think Herc's ego just got hurt. But he's right though? Seattle probably saved his career for another year.

 

 

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