Read this about the new MLS stadiums coming. Well thought out designs, excellent supporters sections etc. Too bad for us:
http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2015...innesota-miami
Read this about the new MLS stadiums coming. Well thought out designs, excellent supporters sections etc. Too bad for us:
http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2015...innesota-miami
Originally Posted by Red100
In a few years, BMO Field will be one of the shittiest stadiums in MLS
Just a reminder of what we were supposed to get if the Argos did not join
Sound box stadiums are always best hands down. Unfortunately we won't have one. Now that Bmo is Argos house and other events venue, is there a chance they plan to build another soccer specific stadium somewhere in GTA? Could be a possibility. A long shot but you never know
Isn't there another thread for this sort of speculation?
MLSE are going to have put 200+ mil into BMO, unless someone else is building the thing we won't be moving any time soon.
^^But perfect for the CFL!
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I was told they are putting it that high to accommodate temp south end seating for the bigger events above the current south end. Not sure if that is still the plan though.
AFAIK, the roof on the west side will also be very high, and not closed at the back. That's because they're not changing or connecting anything. The new roof will float above the press boxes and above the existing mini-roof. How often does rain fall straight down at BMO Field? Not often.
see the big wigs that make the $$ make decisions to continue to make $$ and not spend $$.
Its embarrassing to be honest that we are controlled by owners who are completely football (soccer) dumb. Its almost like they make decisions on a whim after thinking about it for a day or two.
As much as I'm not happy about the Argos coming in, saying that the owners don't spend money is crazy... Unfortunately I feel like most of the time they throw money at their problems, rather than actually fix them.
The plus side, no body complained when BMO was first built without a north stand. Also, those 7 or so thousands SSH will be offered seats in other places in the stadium, so it'll appear fuller for those that are obsessed with how the stands look on TV.
I agree that MLSE & TFC usually don't have a problem spending crazy money. I think the problem here though is the Argos, owned by Tanenbaum & Bell, but not by Rogers or MLSE. The Argos are worth very little as we found out in the past few years. I always thought it was nuts, when the idea of a BMO Field reno for the Argos first came up, that the cost of just the renos for their benefit, seemed to be much higher than the total value of the franchise.
So when they really started planning the details of the Argo reno, they probably decided to go as cheap as possible on that part of the overall reno. More is just not worth it for the Argos. The attendance won't increase that much for them. I don't think you can charge crazy ticket prices for CFL either. Plus they only have a small number of home games per season. There is value for TSN/Bell as a broadcaster to keep the Argos alive, but for broadcast purposes they don't really care about stadium details.
So we end up with a cheap reno: no hybrid grass; cross your fingers the grass holds up; only minimally retractable south end; huge northward shift for Argos games; one plastic & one grass endzone; field length shorter than CFL standard; and probably a bunch of other corners cut.
RE people saying, perhaps they can replace the North Stand later: there will be very little space left in the north, due to the northward shift of the Argo's field. I don't think there is any room left for a permanent structure there. Things will be especially tight during the Ex., when the area in front of the Food Building is not available for BMO Field usage.
I am not saying they don't spend money...its how they spend the money. My comment was about how the rain falls. In my opinion MLSE can spend millions on new players and "renovating the stadium", but then don't think about things like how the rain falls. Its one band-aid fix after another when it comes to this stadium.
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Yeah, that sucks. At least have a rain/wind screen in the gap.
at minimum some sort of screen to cover the gap in the south end as well.
Really curious to see what the deal is with the season ticket holders wall, my family is definitely on there and has been a point of pride for us over teh last decade
I'm wondering if the south stands are going to be retracting anymore? I read that all they are going to do now is just configure the field differently at least for CFL football from what I read. Therefore , they are really changing the original plan to save money it seems.
Last edited by SoccMan2; 11-06-2015 at 03:41 AM.
Here is a video I stumbled on. Around the 5 minute mark the north looks to be updated:
https://vimeo.com/113660049
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So Just thinking about the patio and how it'll factor in during the games.
If it's sunny, people will go there. Not sure why - but people seem to love to sit on a patio and not pay attention to the match. we saw it the first few seasons at BMO
However, when it rains, people will end up staying in their seats. Currently the North end was the only place with cover to watch the match. Now your seats are the only things covered. lol
So I guess that's a bonus.
I hate to break it you but this video is 11 months old and was the previous renovation rendering.
Correct, however, contrast the end of the video to the end of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJfXwBxqu4M
And you'll see where Phil is coming from.
Aaaahhhhh. What the hell! Illuminati!
From the video Phil posted...
Patio
What looks like and extra tier of temp seating in the south
last i heard the front 6-8 rows would be removable for the other thing. Will not retract but would be taken out of the stadium, my info is a few months old now so who knows what the plan is.
So is there any construction actually going on right now? I see a crane there but it's not even close to the stadium. don't see any workers either.
They have to bring in all their trailers, machines, and fence off the area before they start. They're also going to bring in a lot of the materials needed first.
Construction my not actually start going full tilt til tomorrow or Monday. I'll give a report as I will be in bmo tonight picking up the kings drums from storage.
My home team in England, Oxford - has a 3 sided stadium. BMO is going to be much the same, albeit bigger. Trust me, guys, a 3 sided stadium is not fun, even with a roof. You always lose a bunch of atmosphere without that fourth end. Plus we are staring at the Gardiner which isn't exactly beautiful!
The Oxford stadium, for reference and comparison:
Hmm....I suppose in Oxford you stare at your car hoping somebody isn't kicking a ball onto the roof?My home team in England, Oxford - has a 3 sided stadium. BMO is going to be much the same, albeit bigger. Trust me, guys, a 3 sided stadium is not fun, even with a roof. You always lose a bunch of atmosphere without that fourth end. Plus we are staring at the Gardiner which isn't exactly beautiful!
The Oxford stadium, for reference and comparison:
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