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    It is odd. Seemed like it was no question Babouli was getting signed. I wonder if something happened or if someone became available in last few days.

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    There's still time for Babouli to sign right? He definitely seems to fit into the system that Vanney wants to play.

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    They must be waiting for another shoe to drop. Bez knew what he was doing when he mentioned that potential european signing.

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    I have a feeling they might not sign him yet strategically. Even if we signed him, he probably would've been loaned down at the start of the season anyways. So TFC's logic is rather than tie up another roster spot now, we'll wait until we need him (ala Simonin) and save a bit of money and roster spot by signing him later on a pro-rated deal. Even though his money wouldn't count to the cap, it frees up a roster spot, which can allow them to make a 2-for-1 trade if one materializes that improves the team. If not, they will just sign him. It sucks for Babouli, but strategically it's a good move preparing for an unknown future. Signing him could prevent a future move and/or cost an asset. But in the meantime, if he's starting at TFC2 anyways, regardless of whether he's on a TFC2 or TFC deal, they are just keeping him on a TFC2 deal, since it's the most beneficial to the team (obviously not to Mo).
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    Given the 125k increase in HG money you can spend that's off the cap. Could it be Mo's agent is looking for most of that money instead of say the minimum 60k deal? Bez dropping the international player interest as a part of a play to drive his price down?

    Waiting until the summer to sign him to an MLS deal to keep some roster flexibility also makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Detroit_TFC View Post
    It is odd. Seemed like it was no question Babouli was getting signed. I wonder if something happened or if someone became available in last few days.
    An article in England came out saying QPR will not re-sign Hoilett because of his salary. Would be very expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruffian View Post
    An article in England came out saying QPR will not re-sign Hoilett because of his salary. Would be very expensive.
    Hoilett on a half season sal for 2016, possibly back loading part of the overall salary into the future even though they say they don't do that, might work. I can think of some scenarios where that might make a lot of sense (more for 2017 than for this season).
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    Hoilett would be a pretty awesome use of TAM and really solves one of our main needs. Pure speculation at this point but I hope to hell it happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by molenshtain View Post
    Hoilett would be a pretty awesome use of TAM and really solves one of our main needs. Pure speculation at this point but I hope to hell it happens.
    I read he was on an £45,000 a week salary. That works out to about $3.5 million US a year. Way too much for TAM. Has to be someone else

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    Quote Originally Posted by rydermike View Post
    I read he was on an £45,000 a week salary. That works out to about $3.5 million US a year. Way too much for TAM. Has to be someone else
    A contract he signed while he was an up and coming valuable commodity in the PL. He's not nearly as rated now. I doubt anyone offers him more than 10k a week. Coming home might be enough of an enticing prospect to cut even that down enough to get him under TAM.

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    Seems like Herc Gomez is gone...

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    That sucks

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    I feel bad about the whole Herc episode. Seems like there was never a commitment from Vanney to utilize him in any effective way. Well, other than that one really important time.

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    So Altidore in injured, Seba isn't a CF... So we have Hamilton as our striker option now?

    Have to think someone is coming in.

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    Didn't see that one coming. Scored one of the biggest goals in our history and seemed like a great guy, so i appreciate his stay here.

    All that cap space though.... Means we're getting at least Babouli and one other guy, even if we don't get rid of a CB. And let's keep in mind that this FO doesn't make rash, out of the blue moves like this unless they have something else imminently lined up. We should expect some more moves in the next day or two.
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    So now we just have Hamilton and Endoh as backup forwards?

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    DeJong and KC part ways.

    Do we have use for him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red4ever View Post
    DeJong and KC part ways.

    Do we have use for him?
    Doubt it. We're tight for spots and we already have two solid left backs.

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    OK, I stand corrected on the "If they do advertising he ain't going anywhere theory I was promulgating. They just put a promo out with him YESTERDAY.


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    PAH...journos saying TFC not concerned about being cap compliant and then they go get rid of somebody 5 days before the season starts. Who's spinning who here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by molenshtain View Post
    Hoilett would be a pretty awesome use of TAM and really solves one of our main needs. Pure speculation at this point but I hope to hell it happens.
    Quote Originally Posted by Red4ever View Post
    DeJong and KC part ways.

    Do we have use for him?
    What is happening?

    And Herc is possibly gone the year we have a US looking kit?

    This day is getting more and more weird...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pint View Post
    So Altidore in injured, Seba isn't a CF... So we have Hamilton as our striker option now?

    Have to think someone is coming in.
    Gotta be

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    OK, I stand corrected on the "If they do advertising he ain't going anywhere theory I was promulgating. They just put a promo out with him YESTERDAY.


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    PAH...journos saying TFC not concerned about being cap compliant and then they go get rid of somebody 5 days before the season starts. Who's spinning who here.
    By "not concerned" ... I simply meant they had options. For instance, they'll offload Herc but replace him with Babouli. Nobody ever said they were done making moves. I was basically trying to cool fears that the Reds had significant cap issues. They don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtLarSUN View Post
    By "not concerned" ... I simply meant they had options. For instance, they'll offload Herc but replace him with Babouli. Nobody ever said they were done making moves. I was basically trying to cool fears that the Reds had significant cap issues. They don't.
    Herc have a guaranteed deal? Will he still be on the cap unless claimed?

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    That's rough to be let go after such a short stay and when the season is about to kick off. Damn.

    Curious if what the plan is here...

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    I doubt we waived him btw. This is probably a trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtLarSUN View Post
    By "not concerned" ... I simply meant they had options. For instance, they'll offload Herc but replace him with Babouli. Nobody ever said they were done making moves...

    OK, I get that.


    Just give me 15 minutes to recover from the latest chunk of my idealism falling off like I'm an Antarctic glacier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Areathrasher View Post
    Herc have a guaranteed deal? Will he still be on the cap unless claimed?
    Was guaranteed, yes. It's MLS. Salary cap implications are unclear.

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    This is all making complete sense now. Saves me from making the banner I was going to make.

    1. Giovinco...2. Altidore
    2. Babouli.....4. Hamilton

    What people are forgetting is that Babouli can still play for the first team at any point while being on a TFCII contract. Reason why I see management in no rush to sign him which makes sense.
    But could we see another experience/veteran forward come in? I think sooo.

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    I meeeaann.... We've cut 2 forwards in the past week but still have 6 CB's. I would think there is still some waiving to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shway View Post
    What people are forgetting is that Babouli can still play for the first team at any point while being on a TFCII contract. Reason why I see management in no rush to sign him which makes sense.
    No he can't, it's the opposite that's true. A player with an MLS contract can be loaned to a USL affiliate, but if you play for TFC you need an MLS contract.

    Looks like we just signed Gomez for too much initially, and with him being a sub, the money doesn't work.

 

 

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