TFC 2015-2016 Off-Season player moves/speculation/rumours/etc.

[Ultra & Proud]

Yeah I agree, I'd rather have Jozy than many of the names other people throw out.

Coaching could help us up front as well; although I wonder if that late growth spurt / bulk up means Altidore still plays with the mentality he had when he was first in MLS and carrying a much smaller frame.

For a guy who is so strong I frequently wonder about his hold-up play. I agree target men aren't often noted for their defending, so when you have Giovinco out there as well (who is light on defensive responsibility) it starts to be an issue.

I think Jozy has to change his game but I think he would and can. Vanney should use him like the Crew use Kamara. Kamara causes havok in the box and wins almost everything in the air or at least makes the CBs very uncomfortable. He is strong and always around the area causing troubles and it frees a lot of space for Finlay & the rest. Jozy is bigger, stronger, and just as athletic. No reason he can't do a similar job and it'd be better than having a guy that big, no matter how athletic or skilled he may be, doing things on the wing that aren't helping the team. Seeing Jozy picking up the ball at midfield and heading to the touchline always made me freak out. It was setting him up to fail. He isn't equipped to take on FBs with pace and to set him up to do so is just plain stupid. Vanney = stupid.

[Graeme]

As we've gone over plenty of times before getting the number of goals he did on the number of shots he had was heavily fighting the trend. Logic says that he's not going to be able to do that again unless he's more active next year.

How does logic say this? If what he did was so unlikely, surely we should be lauding him for an excellent season. Instead, I see many comments that he was "just lucky" or they were just "tap ins." In either case, why can't he do the same or improve (with an actual off-season to get in shape)?

[jabbronies]

Toronto FC are pondering a shock "Serie A" double raid for Andrea Barzagli and Daniele De Rossi
http://www.europacalcio.it/news/mercato-toronto-sempre-piu-italiana-i-canadesi-vogliono-anche-santacroce-barzagli-e-de-rossi-82313.html

[Auzzy]

Toronto FC are pondering a shock "Serie A" double raid for Andrea Barzagli and Daniele De Rossi
http://www.europacalcio.it/news/mercato-toronto-sempre-piu-italiana-i-canadesi-vogliono-anche-santacroce-barzagli-e-de-rossi-82313.html

Interesting if true. Although I do wonder what all this will do to our ticket prices... Other MLS teams are able to find decent defenders & DMs for reasonable amounts of money, but that's not us I guess.

[Ultra & Proud]

Interesting if true. Although I do wonder what all this will do to our ticket prices... Other MLS teams are able to find decent defenders & DMs for reasonable amounts of money, but that's not us I guess.

Gotta think big, putting TFC on the map, being a super club and all those things Papa Tim taught us when he came here.

[Ultra & Proud]

If this is true ands I hope it's not, I think the Bez plan is to hopefully buy enough expensive, experienced talent to cover the glaring deficiencies at the manager level. You bring in enough experienced stars then a monkey could manage the team I guess and probably everyone on the pitch will call their own plays and tactics anyway.

[Detroit_TFC]

Make to keep a list of these, for entertainment purposes only.

[Richard]

Oh cant wait for the Rooney to TFC rumors very soon.

[ag futbol]

How does logic say this? If what he did was so unlikely, surely we should be lauding him for an excellent season. Instead, I see many comments that he was "just lucky" or they were just "tap ins." In either case, why can't he do the same or improve (with an actual off-season to get in shape)?

Sounds like you've already spelled it out and just don't like the answers. Shooting infrequently means scoring infrequently more often than not.

We'll see how he does next year I suppose.

[ag futbol]

I think Jozy has to change his game but I think he would and can. Vanney should use him like the Crew use Kamara. Kamara causes havok in the box and wins almost everything in the air or at least makes the CBs very uncomfortable. He is strong and always around the area causing troubles and it frees a lot of space for Finlay & the rest. Jozy is bigger, stronger, and just as athletic. No reason he can't do a similar job and it'd be better than having a guy that big, no matter how athletic or skilled he may be, doing things on the wing that aren't helping the team. Seeing Jozy picking up the ball at midfield and heading to the touchline always made me freak out. It was setting him up to fail. He isn't equipped to take on FBs with pace and to set him up to do so is just plain stupid. Vanney = stupid.

Agreed, wide play was one of the dumbest things I saw from the coaching staff all year.

I don't see the Kamara role working for him on this team - we need someone anchoring the middle because that gives more freedom for gio to drift around.

[TFC/Everton]

Toronto FC are pondering a shock "Serie A" double raid for Andrea Barzagli and Daniele De Rossi
http://www.europacalcio.it/news/mercato-toronto-sempre-piu-italiana-i-canadesi-vogliono-anche-santacroce-barzagli-e-de-rossi-82313.html

Love it. Sign them up.

We are back to back off season champs, looking to threepeat.

[Ultra & Proud]

Love it. Sign them up.

We are back to back off season champs, looking to threepeat.

Well it hasn't failed us yet. Success starts now!

[ensco]

Toronto FC are pondering a shock "Serie A" double raid for Andrea Barzagli and Daniele De Rossi
http://www.europacalcio.it/news/mercato-toronto-sempre-piu-italiana-i-canadesi-vogliono-anche-santacroce-barzagli-e-de-rossi-82313.html

Agents working the system.

Somebody forgot to tell the newspaper editors over there that the guy who signed Gio got canned

[Areathrasher]

Our first rumor of the off season, yay!!!

[OgtheDim]

Agents working the system.

Somebody forgot to tell the newspaper editors over there that the guy who signed Gio got canned

TL?

Means nothing. Seba is happy, in the Azzuri and scoring for fun. The rest is background noise.


BTW, this is unlikely agent talk as its 2 different agents. More likely content creation.

[Oldtimer]

Our first rumor of the off season, yay!!!

Pages and pages of discussion in the Off-Season rumour thread before any genuine Off-Season rumours come.

Here's an English language article on the Italian player rumour :

http://torontoreds.com/2015/11/07/re...rie-a-players/

[Oldtimer]

I'd really like it if de Rossi came. A stud DM is a real need. We could pay down his salary with TAM.

[Ossington Mental Youth]

Agents working the system.

Somebody forgot to tell the newspaper editors over there that the guy who signed Gio got canned

and that theres a salary cap

[Ossington Mental Youth]

I'd really like it if de Rossi came. A stud DM is a real need. We could pay down his salary with TAM.

If hes willing to take a massive pay cut and we only use it for one year.

[Ivy]

Exciting. Both players would be perfect for what TFC needs... Hard to believe though.

[gdg_9]

30+ aging players is not what we need.
We've tried this over and over and it rarely works.

These are the type of players we should be looking at:

http://www.just-football.com/2015/01...ew-mascherano/

Alot of these specific guys might be unrealistic, as they seem destined for Italy, Spain or England (Romero, Kranevitter, etc.), but this is the type of player we should be after.

We need another Laba. He was a fantastic signing who has fit in MLS perfectly.

We obviously can't get him back, but we should be looking for a similar replacement.

[Defoe]

30+ aging players is not what we need.
We've tried this over and over and it rarely works.

These are the type of players we should be looking at:

http://www.just-football.com/2015/01...ew-mascherano/

Alot of these specific guys might be unrealistic, as they seem destined for Italy, Spain or England (Romero, Kranevitter, etc.), but this is the type of player we should be after.

We need another Laba. He was a fantastic signing who has fit in MLS perfectly.

We obviously can't get him back, but we should be looking for a similar replacement.

Don't be ridiculous gdg. This would be a sensible and needed type of player. Your out to lunch.

[Ivy]

Gdg I see what you're saying, but De Rossi is slightly better than Laba.
Balzagri would be a perfect anchor in the defense.. Something that we desperately need.

[Yohan]

De Rossi will require DP spot. so one of the DPs have to go.

Barzagli... old, injury prone. Does he have the pace to keep up, or is he going to be another Nesta in MLS? (IE slow and get pushed around)

[notthesun]

I doubt De Rossi ever leaves Roma.

[ronzilla]

Who would have ever thought that tfc would be rejecting offers from Barca? lol

De Rossi would be a huge hit here, although I highly doubt he will leave Roma. 10% chance.

Barzagli was one of the best players for Juve at the CL final. Even at his age, would be a big improvement to the back line as long s he stays healthy.

[Pint]

Barzagli appears to be on 1.7 mil euros after tax in italy... how the hell do we think he will sign for 4-500k pre tax here?

[Nodoubtguy]

Gio - 28
Jozy - 26
Bradley - 28

De Rossi - 32
Barzagli - 34

Not saying our current 3 DP's are ideal, but looking at their ages......think we need to not go for the older players

[ronzilla]

Gio - 28
Jozy - 26
Bradley - 28

De Rossi - 32
Barzagli - 34

Not saying our current 3 DP's are ideal, but looking at their ages......think we need to not go for the older players

Giovinco is not ideal? I think you mean only Bradley and Jozy.

Drogba is 37 and look at what he has done.

[Calcio]

30+ aging players is not what we need.
We've tried this over and over and it rarely works.

These are the type of players we should be looking at:

http://www.just-football.com/2015/01...ew-mascherano/

Alot of these specific guys might be unrealistic, as they seem destined for Italy, Spain or England (Romero, Kranevitter, etc.), but this is the type of player we should be after.

We need another Laba. He was a fantastic signing who has fit in MLS perfectly.

We obviously can't get him back, but we should be looking for a similar replacement.

These aren't past your prime players. Both are still performing very well for club. Some would argue Barzagli is still Juve's best defender. If we can some how get these two, you sure as heck get them because they are both still national team players, and some of the best in the world at their respective roles despite their ages.

Also, De Rossi has played in the Roma midfield w/ Bradley. He would be the perfect addition. My only concern is how you add them both. Subtracting Altidore obviously makes sense, but can you use the core-dp to get the other?