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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossington Mental Youth View Post
    Feel like Beitashour and potentially Kah will be resigned at lower wages. Surprisingly dont rate Kah all that much even tho he had a great season
    I'm not the biggest Ka fan either.
    He's not a #1, but he's still a decent #2 or #3... and he's priced as such.

    He's still a much better option at $170k than Kantari at $345k!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Areathrasher View Post
    +1 for Manning now. Vanney's favourite boy will be no more thank fuck.

    Glad we are getting a new keeper. Hopefully this isn't a tact to resign Bendik in entry draft at lower $$$. We need a new look. Buyout Kantari hopefully and that gives us decent space and options.

    Surprised with Jackson, hopefully we can resign him lower.

    Aparicio will maybe sign with TFC II? Only 20 with decent experience at 39 games in USL

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    Normally when teams are trying to re-negotiate the salaries they throw this type of thing into the release "The club remains in contact with all six players, as well as out-of-contract midfielder Mauro Rosales and striker Robert Earnshaw, regarding their future with the club."

    Nothing like that in TFC's release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdubs View Post
    +1 for Manning now. Vanney's favourite boy will be no more thank fuck.

    Glad we are getting a new keeper. Hopefully this isn't a tact to resign Bendik in entry draft at lower $$$. We need a new look. Buyout Kantari hopefully and that gives us decent space and options.

    Surprised with Jackson, hopefully we can resign him lower.

    Aparicio will maybe sign with TFC II? Only 20 with decent experience at 39 games in USL
    We may well be making room for more players with TFC II. At first glance there appears to be some decent talent at the younger age groups.

    Thank god no more Flindley, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notthesun View Post
    There is a bit of cryptic wording in the Whitecaps release, but if Beitashour is in fact available, he would be an excellent target. Proven RB that made $197k last year, less than Morrow will make with us this year. Would solidify both our fullback spots (Morrow & Beitashour played in the same back four when they were with San Jose), and we have an opening at RB with Jackson heading out.

    But Vancouver isn't stupid and they don't have an immediate RB replacement. They are probably looking to negotiate a new deal with him. If he does leave we should be all over this.
    They signed a RB from Costa Rica mid way through the season. By all accounts he appears to be their number one option, not that they don't like beitashour.

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    So adding it up... (all base salary)

    Findley : $225,000
    Jackson : $165,000
    Bendik : $150,000
    Konopka : $66,000
    Total :$606,000

    If you dump a buyout on Kantari (hoping) then $909,000 base. Plus TAM (which may increase) plus natural cap raise... We don't know what the extended players bumps were tho, Morrow for example got a 25% bump. Tight cap lol.

    Aparicio was HG I think? $60,000

    Any idea if part of Caldwell's salary was still on the books last year? Not sure how retirement works in MLS?

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    Toronto FC’s 2016 roster as it currently stands:
    Goalkeepers (2): Alex Bono, Quillan Roberts
    Defenders (9): Mark Bloom, Nick Hagglund, Ahmed Kantari, Ashtone Morgan, Justin Morrow, Damien Perquis, Clement Simonin, Josh Williams, Eriq Zavaleta
    Midfielders (8): Michael Bradley, Jay Chapman, Benoit Cheyrou, Marky Delgado, Daniel Lovitz, Chris Mannella, Jonathan Osorio, Collen Warner
    Forwards (5): Jozy Altidore, Sebastian Giovinco, Herculez Gomez, Jordan Hamilton, Luke Moore

    So we only need to sign a keeper. Q can serve as a decent back up while Bono is getting minutes with TFCII. I'd like to see Babouli signed to a first team contract. We need to bring in a strong DM and a serviceable RB and maybe some speed for the wings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ag futbol View Post
    They signed a RB from Costa Rica mid way through the season. By all accounts he appears to be their number one option, not that they don't like beitashour.
    Thanks, slipped my mind.

    Well that's interesting then... if they consider Beitashour a #2 they are probably trying to get him on a lower deal. Beitashour will know that if he doesn't re-sign he will go to the re-entry draft. A good player like him on a reasonable contract, it's a virtual guarantee he'd be picked in the first round and hence be guaranteed to make his current salary under the re-entry rules. So this will probably come down to whether Beitashour is willing to take a pay cut & play less minutes to stay in Vancouver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdg_9 View Post
    I'm not the biggest Ka fan either.
    He's not a #1, but he's still a decent #2 or #3... and he's priced as such.

    He's still a much better option at $170k than Kantari at $345k!
    Im thinking we will buy out Kantari

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    Should say, What we SHOULD do is buy out Kantari...

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    I'm not sure how big of a priority i would give to RB at the moment.

    Bloom, Williams, Hagglund is serviceable. Needs: DM, GK, CB, RM in that order IMO.

    Hopefully we can rid ourselves of Kantari and Moore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pint View Post
    I'm not sure how big of a priority i would give to RB at the moment.

    Bloom, Williams, Hagglund is serviceable. Needs: DM, GK, CB, RM in that order IMO.

    Hopefully we can rid ourselves of Kantari and Moore.
    Agreed. I would add Lovitz to that list. He just doesn't seem to have confidence on the field.

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    Kevin Kinkaid reporting Vitoria is out at PHI (along with Fred and others).

    The $400k hit he had last yr is too high, but could he be a decent option at a lower salary?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pdubs View Post

    Aparicio will maybe sign with TFC II? Only 20 with decent experience at 39 games in USL
    He may or may not sign with TFCII, however there was a few better players than him on TFCII.
    i.e., Babouli, Nunez, Uccello, Osoio

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdg_9 View Post
    Kevin Kinkaid reporting Vitoria is out at PHI (along with Fred and others).

    The $400k hit he had last yr is too high, but could he be a decent option at a lower salary?
    Steven Vitoria.....was he not on a 1 year loan, under contract with Benfica?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdg_9 View Post
    Kevin Kinkaid reporting Vitoria is out at PHI (along with Fred and others).

    The $400k hit he had last yr is too high, but could he be a decent option at a lower salary?
    At a lower salary I'd take a peak. He would still be better off next to a stronger CB IMO.

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    Didn't want to represent canada in the past, has made no commitment now so he can look else where.

    Huge pass on Vitoria

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pint View Post
    I'm not sure how big of a priority i would give to RB at the moment.

    Bloom, Williams, Hagglund is serviceable.
    My goodness, please no Hagglund at RB. That experiment lasted for 20 minutes and 2 conceded goals. It was only after that disaster that Morrow moved to RB. Just one of Vanney's amateur moments.

    Glad to see so much dead weight disposed of. Hopefully Findley actually follows, his production can easily be matched by an Academy kid. How anyone can rate him is well beyond me, teams cannot compete for championships with scrubs like that being counted on.

    Confirmation of Kantari's guaranteed contract is disappointing. I reckon this is one of the worst contracts given out by the club, and that's saying a lot. Really hope Bez admits defeat and cuts his losses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobo View Post
    My goodness, please no Hagglund at RB. That experiment lasted for 20 minutes and 2 conceded goals. It was only after that disaster that Morrow moved to RB. Just one of Vanney's amateur moments.

    Glad to see so much dead weight disposed of. Hopefully Findley actually follows, his production can easily be matched by an Academy kid. How anyone can rate him is well beyond me, teams cannot compete for championships with scrubs like that being counted on.

    Confirmation of Kantari's guaranteed contract is disappointing. I reckon this is one of the worst contracts given out by the club, and that's saying a lot. Really hope Bez admits defeat and cuts his losses.
    You can likely toss morrow ahead of hagglund as the 3rd option and maybe even delgado. More saying that we have players who can cover that area in a pinch without having to add to the depth chart. Beitashour would be nice but 400+ on fullback starters would be very expensive in mls let alone bloom and morgan at ~100k each as backups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobo View Post
    Confirmation of Kantari's guaranteed contract is disappointing. I reckon this is one of the worst contracts given out by the club, and that's saying a lot. Really hope Bez admits defeat and cuts his losses.
    Don't the teams get one buy out per off season, I hope to see this being used here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimiv View Post
    Don't the teams get one buy out per off season, I hope to see this being used here.
    Do you get one per season? If so this is a way to get around the cap, sign a guy for 2 years and then buy him out t the end of the season.

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    I didn't expect to see both keepers on that list. I expected Bendik on the list but not Konopka. Let's see where this leads to

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    Let the formation talk begin:



    (I don't see Altidore there)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PopePouri View Post
    Let the formation talk begin:



    (I don't see Altidore there)
    Lol Altidore must be on his way out since his name isn't in that pic.

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    I thought those tactic boards were from games during the season.

    (i can't see the pic but i presume it's from the all for one short posted?)

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    As far as formation, don't expect morrow to every play RB again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    As far as formation, don't expect morrow to every play RB again.
    Hope not, hope we can get a decent starting RB. Feel like people are underestimating how much a starting calibre RB will help out the defense. If we see more shift/plug/play type of shit our goals against wont change much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David_Oliveira View Post
    I didn't expect to see both keepers on that list. I expected Bendik on the list but not Konopka. Let's see where this leads to
    was only vaguely surprised myself, got Bono and Roberts in the wings for back up, expected to see a new starting Keeper

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    Three salaries that need to go:
    Gomez at 240
    Moore at 215
    Kantari at 300

    Simply too much money across three guys I don't see in the starting 11.
    Two of those were moves aimed at bolstering our club in the summer, in which neither of them contributed positively & consistently (Bez dropped the ball)

    How do you get those guys off the books?

 

 

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