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    Default TFC 2015-2016 Off-Season player moves/speculation/rumours/etc.

    Now with the season ended, it's time to start a new thread.

    Post your speculation/information/etc. here in this thread!

    Confirmed (by traditional media or the club) signings get a separate single thread in the "News" section. All other "inside" and other information goes here.
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    Silly season!

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    So who is on expiring contracts? A lot of cap space hogs need to be cleared out.

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    A whole lot of players = Get Rid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBobSaget View Post
    So who is on expiring contracts? A lot of cap space hogs need to be cleared out.
    Bigger question is who do we use our buy out on? Findley, Perquis, Kantari, Herc, Moore all have 1 year left on their current deals going by the General 2+2 rule of MLS contracts

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    I would like to see some stability in the playing roster. We improved to 500, it's progress.

    If Bradley scores instead of hitting the crossbar late Sunday, we'd have had a game here, and this season wouldn't feel quite so bad.

    I do think it's likely 2 of the DPs could be gone, though.
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    Under the proviso that I'm not sure this braintrust can actually take a serious look at their acquistions

    Keeper

    Upgrade preferred
    Trade Bendik

    CD

    Keep Perquis
    Upgrade on the 2nd starter needed, younger with a right foot
    Keep Williams, Simonin, Zaveletta as backup
    Trade / ditch Kantari


    LB

    Stay the course


    RB

    Upgrade necessary
    Keep Bloom as backup
    Trade Jackson


    LM

    Keep Osorio & Lovitz

    RM

    Upgrade necessary
    Keep Delgado as he might be next season's Osorio break out player
    Somehow trade Findley

    Central Mids

    Get a real stud DM
    Bradley ain't going anywhere
    Cheyrou might need to retire
    Keep Warner & Chapman as backup


    Forward

    Seba (are you freaking nuts - he's staying - tonight just got him pissed - he's scoring 28 next season - calling it now) & Jozy keep (Jozy is top 10 in scoring people - give it up, he's staying)
    Keep Gomez
    Trade ditch Moore & Hamilton
    Last edited by OgtheDim; 10-29-2015 at 10:09 PM.

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    What Og said + upgrade the manager position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Under the proviso that I'm not sure this braintrust can actually take a serious look at their acquistions

    Keeper

    Upgrade preferred
    Trade Bendik

    CD

    Keep Perquis
    Upgrade on the 2nd starter needed, younger with a right foot
    Keep Williams, Simonin, Zaveletta as backup
    Trade / ditch Kantari


    LB

    Stay the course


    RB

    Upgrade necessary
    Keep Bloom as backup
    Trade Jackson


    LM

    Keep Osorio & Lovitz

    RM

    Upgrade necessary
    Keep Delgado as he might be next season's Osorio break out player
    Somehow trade Findley

    Central Mids

    Get a real stud DM
    Bradley ain't going anywhere
    Cheyrou might need to retire
    Keep Warner & Chapman as backup


    Forward

    Seba (are you freaking nuts - he's staying - tonight just got him pissed - he's scoring 28 next season - calling it now) & Jozy keep (Jozy is top 10 in scoring people - give it up, he's staying)
    Keep Gomez
    Trade ditch Moore & Hamilton
    You didn't address Hagglund at CB or Konopka at Keeps... I would trade Hagglund, buyout Kantari, trade Herc (he's old don't get emotional guys), Keep Moore and cmon Jozy has to go guys injury prone, misses games for USMNT and is inconsistent anyways <- that's just in addition to what you said

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    Yeah, I was humming and hawing about Hagglund - trade him.

    Moore? His head isn't here anymore. And he's not the wide body striker a guy like Seba needs to pair off of.

    And Jozy had probably the 4th best ever forward season for us, behind Seba, DeRo and Koevs. 1 goal every 133 minutes.

    He's got issues but that's pretty darn good production.

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    Best case scenario we dump Findley, Moore, Kantari, Vanney, and Bendik.

    Maybe move/lose some of Cheyrou, Gomez, Perquis, and Bez.

    Sign only mid or upper mid range, legit MLS players. Maybe from re-entry draft. No overseas experiments who cost near DP bucks. Try to balance the squad better and FFS focus on defence and sign a legit, true DM.

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    In my opinion...

    Out:

    Bendik
    Kantari
    Hagglund
    Aparicio
    Findley
    Moore

    In:

    GK - dependable starter
    CB - to start alongside Perquis (preferably with MLS experience but I don't know how many starting quality CBs will be available)
    RB - to start with Bloom as backup
    DM - use TAM money to lock up a stay-at-home DM with Cheyrou moving to a bench role. Oriol Rosell would be ideal.
    RM - takes Findley/Delgado/Warner's spot in the 11.
    ST - backup for Altidore (stay within MLS for this)
    Sign Babouli to a first team contract to serve as Giovinco's understudy and fill in wherever he can get minutes

    Everyone else stays.

    Shedding Bendik, Kantari, Findley and Moore frees up a little under $1 million in cap space, plenty to sign the most pressing needs. Allocation and potentially shedding 1 more contract (next up would be either Jackson or Gomez) would give us all the space we need.

    We are really not that far away. We need balance in the team so that we don't need to score 3 to win a game. If we can get the CB and DM signings right in particular, we're in business.
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    I don't see why we can't tap other markets if we had actual ability to scout players.

    It blows my mind that Vancouver signs a starting quality RB (in addition to the one they already have) for the simple fact the guy they have is getting older and "might" not resign or will need to be pushed for his spot next year. Meanwhile, TFC, which had a far greater need for a RB, basically spent months on end doing nothing before trading for a guy who primarily was used as a CB and fielded hot garbage at the position for the majority of the season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    I would like to see some stability in the playing roster. We improved to 500, it's progress.

    If Bradley scores instead of hitting the crossbar late Sunday, we'd have had a game here, and this season wouldn't feel quite so bad.

    I do think it's likely 2 of the DPs could be gone, though.
    Fuck Jozy Altidore. I've defended the guy online for two years but his effort was just disgraceful for much of this season. He had 16 shots on net all season. All season. The fact that he managed to bundle in some goals is all well and good, but I think we all know the way he plays he could just as easily get eight next season.Sixteen shots in a whole season? That'sf fucking ridiculous.

    ANd as you and others pointed out earlier this year, Bradley seems to really run this team, and he's just not as good as he obviously thinks he is. If he's staying, we need a tough, experienced manager who'll keep his ass to a series of prescribed roles, and not let him play like the drifting two-way midfielder from hell.

    Perquis was redeeming himself toward the end of year; he's not a number one though and on his money is way too expensive. Kantari is a fucking bust. Zavaleta and Hagglund both have potential but too little experience; neither is Birnbaum-ready to start, even with a good coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Under the proviso that I'm not sure this braintrust can actually take a serious look at their acquistions

    Keeper

    Upgrade preferred
    Trade Bendik

    CD

    Keep Perquis
    Upgrade on the 2nd starter needed, younger with a right foot
    Keep Williams, Simonin, Zaveletta as backup
    Trade / ditch Kantari


    LB

    Stay the course


    RB

    Upgrade necessary
    Keep Bloom as backup
    Trade Jackson


    LM

    Keep Osorio & Lovitz

    RM

    Upgrade necessary
    Keep Delgado as he might be next season's Osorio break out player
    Somehow trade Findley

    Central Mids

    Get a real stud DM
    Bradley ain't going anywhere
    Cheyrou might need to retire
    Keep Warner & Chapman as backup


    Forward

    Seba (are you freaking nuts - he's staying - tonight just got him pissed - he's scoring 28 next season - calling it now) & Jozy keep (Jozy is top 10 in scoring people - give it up, he's staying)
    Keep Gomez
    Trade ditch Moore & Hamilton
    no, there is a lot wrong. You are keeping the same team except for Findley and Jackson! Come on!

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    Why are people proposing we ditch a 19 year old kid that still has loads up upside? Seems kinda crazy, especially when he can be stashed on TFC II.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ag futbol View Post
    Why are people proposing we ditch a 19 year old kid that still has loads up upside? Seems kinda crazy, especially when he can be stashed on TFC II.
    I guess I didn't consider that, so that would be fine. I'm not sure how much upside Hagglund really has though to be honest. Zavaleta looks better, Simonin looks better (haven't seen much of him but I liked the little I saw), Skyler Thomas on TFCII had a good year as well. He's got a bunch of prospects to compete with at CB now and we have enough depth CBs on the roster.

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    It would be great if TFC went and signed some Latin American talent the way that Vancouver and Dallas did this year. But hey, expensive mediocre American players are great too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soccerpro View Post
    It would be great if TFC went and signed some Latin American talent the way that Vancouver and Dallas did this year. But hey, expensive mediocre American players are great too.
    Hey don't forget to mix it up with some expensive mediocre European players! Plus they will be even harder to trade in MLS than Americans, ya gotta maximize the disbenefit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auzzy View Post
    Hey don't forget to mix it up with some expensive mediocre European players! Plus they will be even harder to trade in MLS than Americans, ya gotta maximize the disbenefit!
    Yes.

    do TFC even have scouts? And if so, do they go to South America?

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    Simply got to say. MLS VETS, ffs can we stop with the kantaris and bringing in euro players for a lottery pick player?. Get some MLS vets and I think a proper run to and IN the playoffs is a realistic chance..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyDM View Post
    no, there is a lot wrong. You are keeping the same team except for Findley and Jackson! Come on!
    Uh, read it again. I'm suggesting we need 5 new starters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Uh, read it again. I'm suggesting we need 5 new starters.
    think hes being sarcastic

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    Quote Originally Posted by notthesun View Post
    In my opinion...

    Out:

    Bendik
    Kantari
    Hagglund
    Aparicio
    Findley
    Moore

    In:

    GK - dependable starter
    CB - to start alongside Perquis (preferably with MLS experience but I don't know how many starting quality CBs will be available)
    RB - to start with Bloom as backup
    DM - use TAM money to lock up a stay-at-home DM with Cheyrou moving to a bench role. Oriol Rosell would be ideal.
    RM - takes Findley/Delgado/Warner's spot in the 11.
    ST - backup for Altidore (stay within MLS for this)
    Sign Babouli to a first team contract to serve as Giovinco's understudy and fill in wherever he can get minutes

    Everyone else stays.
    about right to me, think Hagglund will leave only because he doesnt seem to be in Vanneys plans, seems decent enough tho.
    Think we need a starting RB, Keeper and a destroyer DM, probably forgetting something but i just got off a night shift

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    Not ready to throw Jozy out yet, still scored quite a few goals but he also drifted in and out of games.

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    We need a 10th anniversary Tuxedo kit, btw

    http://www.footyheadlines.com/2015/0...uxedo-kit.html
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    Time to win the offesason again

    GK,RB,RW,CDM needed.

    Feel like we are stuck with Perquis and Kantari though.

    Hopefuly we dump a few players into the re-entry draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    We need a 10th anniversary Tuxedo kit, btw

    http://www.footyheadlines.com/2015/0...uxedo-kit.html
    cosign or the beer and/or squid kits

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soccerpro View Post
    It would be great if TFC went and signed some Latin American talent the way that Vancouver and Dallas did this year. But hey, expensive mediocre American players are great too.
    We are so trapped . It was all to see last night . The talent if there didn't show . And now we have to make diamonds out of coal . If we have talent on this team , then 'someone' doesn't know how to use them or motivate them . We have a serious problem that can be fixed by adding or dropping finge players ? I hope in my lifetime we can develop the team around 1 player only , Gio . Enjoy him while he lasts . EG Montreal realizes Drogba is their key . Not Bradley .
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    The DP's all stay.

    We need to surround them with better players.

    Were almost there to a good team. No need for mass and radical change to start tfc from ground zero again.

 

 

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