I'm pretty sure the braintrust is high on Simonin,to the point where they see him as the #4 CD, if fit.
We are going to be seeing a lot of Simonin in June during Voyageur's games.
I'm pretty sure the braintrust is high on Simonin,to the point where they see him as the #4 CD, if fit.
We are going to be seeing a lot of Simonin in June during Voyageur's games.
More the 5th CB. It's Moor / Perquis / Williams / Zavaleta ahead of him.
I still think he's ahead of Zavaleta but we'll see - he ain't going down to TFCII.
Roberts is a HG, which also doesn't count against the capOriginally Posted by KGH
I doubt TFC II would have any trouble filling their quota.2) Q is a canadian and tfc2 has a canadian roster and playing time quota
I do agree with this point. I think they should have whichever is seen as the better prospect playing games at TFC II with the other as backup here. Then if Irwin goes down injured or something, bring the other one up to start MLS games. Ideally, they would relax the movement rules a bit so that backup keepers could play TFC II games but still be on the main squad. Back when we had the reserve league, the bench keeper could play reserve games.3) A good keeper needs playing time. Q will benefit more from playing in games then sitting on the bench - See Irwin as an example of this. I doubt he'd be where he is if he was a MLS backup to start his career.
If Clint Dempsey can rehab with Seattle's PDL team, I think Clement Simonin can survive the trials and tribulations of TFCII. If he's only ready to play half-speed, they're not going to bring him in at the MLS level/
Sad part is doesn't look like there are major moves in salary cap....At this stage if you want to watch good football better off watching Chinese super league compared to MLS and their hard one for untalented American players
Have you ever tried watching that league? I did for a few minutes - ugh. Its like watching MLS circa 2007.Sad part is doesn't look like there are major moves in salary cap....At this stage if you want to watch good football better off watching Chinese super league compared to MLS and their hard one for untalented American players
I would consider the addition of 800k/year of TAM to be a significant raise of the salary cap. Any raise of the actual salary cap just increases the average salary of the same "untalented American players"Sad part is doesn't look like there are major moves in salary cap....At this stage if you want to watch good football better off watching Chinese super league compared to MLS and their hard one for untalented American players
As to the chinese league, I'm sure they still have far fewer players from Europe than MLS does. They've been able to attract a new mercenaries, but how many players do you think would prefer to play in China? Any player with any regard for their health would rather play in NA than in the toxic haze that is Beijing
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freddy montero will tear that league apart
If I want to watch decent football on TV, I'll watch Bundesliga or EPL.Sad part is doesn't look like there are major moves in salary cap....At this stage if you want to watch good football better off watching Chinese super league compared to MLS and their hard one for untalented American players
But to save a roster spot, they would have to send him down for the full season. I'm sure we'll need him before the season is over, and I'd prefer to have him available as soon as he is fit to play
Chinese Super League have a foreign player quota. IIRC it's 3 plus 1 more from Asia.
basically, you see bunch of chinese players getting tossed around by couple of superstars. if you thought Yanks were bad at soccer...
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This whole cap thing as it relates to domestics is very chicken + egg.
You won't magically draw talent with low salaries nor will you get the mechanisms you need you incentivize people to seriously commit to pro soccer. Even the guys who have "made it" in this league on the low end often have one foot out the door. A lot of what you're paying for is stability, allowing guys to live comfortably (but not luxuriously) so they can put their efforts onto the pitch. Plenty of articles out there talking about this.
But on the other hand I agree raising salaries has a certain element to it of driving up the market. So they need to be careful about what they're doing.
Personally, I think it makes a lot of sense to limit the amount of money available to average domestic players. An increase in money available for domestics isn't going to impact the quality of the soccer, but increased spending on internationals will directly impact the quality.
When it comes to salary incentives for top talented athletes to choose a career in pro soccer, there's a very long way to go before MLS can offer players something similar to what other pro sports can offer them. For example, a kid who pursues a pro career in soccer can make a maximum salary in MLS that's less than the minimum salary in the NHL. It would take a massive increase in spending to make MLS compete with the major NA sports for talented kids. Not to say that the league wont eventually get there one day, but there's a long way to go and rushing to get there too soon would take a ton of money. The current course is to slowly build the support and as the support builds, also build the quality of the teams. I don't see a reason why they should take a big financial risk to rush it.
So I mostly agree. Forget minimum NHL salaries. That is the best hockey league in the world and the minimum is 525k. The reasons why the NHL pays what it does vs. MLS is apples and oranges.
Here is my thought: pay every kid enough money to rent their own apartment, make car payments, and otherwise live normally. On the low MLS salaries do not don't allow for that, which makes guys question what they are committing for. Vet minimum should be 100k and the rookie should be 75k, with cost of living adjustments for larger centres. To clarify, I'm saying this for full MLS roster players only - prospects get paid like prospects, no different than any other sport.
Picking up DeGuzman on the cheap as depth in the DM role might be worth a punt.
How about proper free market capitalism. Pay the players what the market will bear. How come we all of a sudden get all socialist when it comes to pro-sports? I find it quite humorous how the land of the free (market) get's decidedly socialist when it comes to player salaries in pro sports.
I know that it's not directly what you were suggesting when you said that the salaries need to be good enough for players to want to play in MLS. But what I'm looking at is how the salary levels of the major leagues influence the career path that a young talented athlete might take since many kids in this country play multiple sports. I'm just thinking long term that if MLS wants to compete with major leagues around the world, it will probably have to be able to compete with the other major sports for the most talented kids, which means having wages competitive with the other leagues. However, I also agree with your point that the minimum has to at least be set at a point where players don't have to constantly have their minds on how they'll get by if they get cut next week.
Here is my thought: pay every kid enough money to rent their own apartment, make car payments, and otherwise live normally. On the low MLS salaries do not don't allow for that, which makes guys question what they are committing for. Vet minimum should be 100k and the rookie should be 75k, with cost of living adjustments for larger centres. To clarify, I'm saying this for full MLS roster players only - prospects get paid like prospects, no different than any other sport.
1) If teams were free to set the market themselves, the biggest teams would outspend the small market teams, the small market teams would collapse because they wouldn't be able to compete, and then the big market teams would collapse because you can't have a league with only a few teams. The big teams need the small teams to exist and vice versa, which is why big teams are willing to pay for teams that operate at a loss.
2) It actually is free market capitalism. The league is a single entity that is competing for investors. No one would invest in MLS if it weren't structured the way it is. They would go put their money in real estate or a natural resources company or something. You have to realize that in MLS, the investors have no interest in beating each other. They care about return on investment. And if it weren't that way, MLS simply wouldn't exist. That's capitalism. Supply and demand. There's a demand for investors, so they get to call the shots as to how they want the business run.
No thanks. He's good enough at the MNT level because Floro has basically designed his system around JDG and Hutchinson as the box to box - DM spine. TFC ain't gonna do that. That and JDG doesn't close down fast enough anymore and isn't a good enough link to the forwards. I feel happy for the guy as he seems to have found his place in Ottawa and the MNT right now. But, not back here.
Well this is Canada... a democratic socialist nation. Why wouldn't we get socialist it is Canadian.
Top 3 teams in the CSL even before the winter transfer window shopping spree would not be out of place among the elite teams of MLS. You're out of touch if you feel like the level of MLS or even CONCACAF as a whole is miles above that in the big AFC leagues. Look at the performances in the recent Club World Cup. CONCACAF and COMNEBOL teams take it seriously, as do AFC. River barely beat Hiroshima, despite Hiroshima having the vast majority of chances. America was beat by Guangzhou on a bad day for Guangzhou.
Lol... you mean the team that beat Club America, the CONCACAF champs, in the Club World Cup 2 months ago? Where was MLS again when this happened?
Say what you will about Club America's performances there, but let's not pretend we're any better here than the CSL based on dated misconceptions of a league you know nothing about.
So what's the deal with Luke Moore? Most European transfer windows are closed so how is this going to play out? Is it safe to assume TFC is now trying to shop him around the MLS? If so, I imagine they are going to have to pick up some of his salary.
If there are no bites, it could make for an awkward season for player and club and limit the opportunities for a TFC II or draft pick to make the jump.
He can still sign for an English club. If/once he agrees a deal with a English club., Moore and TFC do a "mutual termination" and he is free to sign for his new club as a free agent.
Football league sides in England will still be looking to add players anyway as their loan window will be opening up shortly.
But if it's a "mutual termination", would his salary not remain on our books?
Based on other players that have wanted to cancel their contracts to head back to Europe or South America, no.
If TFC doesn't pay, then there's no hit. That's the catch.
Wondering if there are any salary cap wonks on here who can speculate as to what the consensus might be on cap compliance. Seems like the conventional wisdom is that if Moore can be moved along then TFC are near to being compliant. Is that really the case or do we need to make another move or two before March 2 to get under the cap?
If he finds a club offering an acepptable wage and just terminates his contract wih TFC they are off the hook cap wise. If they have to do buy him out then whatever amount they settle on will count against the cap.
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Here's an article from today that shows just how difficult it is to accurately predict MLS teams' cap space.
http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/insi...feature-020816
A lot goes into calculating a player's budget charge or "Cap Hit"... and a lot of the info required to calculate it isn't readily available to the public (signing bonuses, housing/car allowances, performance bonuses, marketing bonuses, etc.) .
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