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    Quote Originally Posted by Mateo1985 View Post
    So when we are there for October 25th game, are we going to be separated? I know their 112 is for away supporters but is it right next to other sections? It is right? This will be interesting. I'm really looking forward to supporting TFC at Saputo
    we had the numbers before at The cheese factory and we basically controlled the whole section . Although held back by security before getting in we were always surrounded by security . We 'll see this time around . Must say their security in the stands were easy going . They love us we drink more than all their supporters it seems . And we had to wait approx 30 mins? , after game end to leave . This time around there may be less supporters as back then it was very well organized . But needless to say , got my tickets already .
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-boy View Post
    What happens when they need the bathroom or want to buy a beer? They just walk through the TFC fans to get the concessions?!

    I'm imaging what would happen in other country's if that did happen, you wouldn't come back from the bathroom alive!
    funny though in Columbus that's what happened and I remember some really easy going fans .
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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzy View Post
    we had the numbers before at The cheese factory and we basically controlled the whole section . Although held back by security before getting in we were always surrounded by security . We 'll see this time around . Must say their security in the stands were easy going . They love us we drink more than all their supporters it seems . And we had to wait approx 30 mins? , after game end to leave . This time around there may be less supporters as back then it was very well organized . But needless to say , got my tickets already .
    same here. Got my tickets in hand lol

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    I thinking of going to Montreal for this game. Are there other sections as well as 112 for TFC supporters, or is that one big enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BritSOL View Post
    I thinking of going to Montreal for this game. Are there other sections as well as 112 for TFC supporters, or is that one big enough?
    along those lines, would I be causing a stir by sitting in their regualr cheap seats with the family while wearing a TFC jersey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Ronaldo View Post
    along those lines, would I be causing a stir by sitting in their regualr cheap seats with the family while wearing a TFC jersey?
    You would be fine, maybe just to be safe buy in the same end as 112 like the corner 118, which is actually the family section.

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    Last year the front 1/3rd to 1/2 in 112 was sitting while the back half was standing, if i remember correctly. Last year it was a random game and other than it being a derby had little meaning, this year much more could be on the line so maybe call as ask if they have an away area where people will actually be sitting.

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    I haven't been to a game for a few years now, but back in the day 104 / 105 were my stomping grounds.

    Had some good times cajoling with away support.

    Any time there was a significant number of visiting support they'd get their own escort any time they left their section. In most cases it was unnecessary, but once in a while Montreal fans would be trying to tear seats up.

    I can remember one game no-one was allowed into BMO until the travelling Montreal supporters had reached their seats, where they had to remain after the final whistle until BMO was empty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOBOR ! View Post
    In most cases it was unnecessary, but once in a while Montreal fans would be trying to tear seats up.
    I remember the time they tore a seat out and threw it into the parking lot/outside the stadium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-boy View Post
    What happens when they need the bathroom or want to buy a beer? They just walk through the TFC fans to get the concessions?!

    I'm imaging what would happen in other country's if that did happen, you wouldn't come back from the bathroom alive!

    West Ham at QPR at Loftus road - the whole away supporters end of the stadium is not accessible by anyone except West Ham fans with tickets. That whole part of the stadium was closed off by security.

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    This reminds me of the 1st time I visited Montreal (I think it was 2010 @ Saputo). I walked down to snap a few photos of TFC during their warmups.
    Some montreal supporters tried to steal my TFC scarf, hit me in the head with a flag pole. Jon Conway came to the side-lines and started yelling at them too (in my defense).
    After that I made it back to the safety of the TFC visiting section...

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    Quote Originally Posted by eustacchio View Post
    I remember the time they tore a seat out and threw it into the parking lot/outside the stadium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzy View Post
    funny though in Columbus that's what happened and I remember some really easy going fans .
    i remember it differently, security was diverting people around TFC supporters during the half, but Columbus fans threw up enough of a stink that eventually security just said "fuck it" and let people mix. The issue was that a few scattered TFC supporters took offense to this and thought it gave em free reign to fuck with fans. one of the guys was making comments to families, which is a no-no in my books, and grabbed a woman's scarf while it was tied around her neck drunkenly yelling out "this would look better if it was red!"

    i didn't recognize them as RPB or any of the other SGs I knew, but I was in his face just as much as the woman's husband was. it was probably the first time I ever thought "wow, maybe some of the horror stories people have about our fans are true".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klinsmann View Post
    This reminds me of the 1st time I visited Montreal (I think it was 2010 @ Saputo). I walked down to snap a few photos of TFC during their warmups.
    Some montreal supporters tried to steal my TFC scarf, hit me in the head with a flag pole. Jon Conway came to the side-lines and started yelling at them too (in my defense).
    After that I made it back to the safety of the TFC visiting section...
    Conway class act and down to Earth .
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    Quote Originally Posted by __wowza View Post
    i remember it differently, security was diverting people around TFC supporters during the half, but Columbus fans threw up enough of a stink that eventually security just said "fuck it" and let people mix. The issue was that a few scattered TFC supporters took offense to this and thought it gave em free reign to fuck with fans. one of the guys was making comments to families, which is a no-no in my books, and grabbed a woman's scarf while it was tied around her neck drunkenly yelling out "this would look better if it was red!"

    i didn't recognize them as RPB or any of the other SGs I knew, but I was in his face just as much as the woman's husband was. it was probably the first time I ever thought "wow, maybe some of the horror stories people have about our fans are true".
    Good on you ...yes and Although I didn't see that, our groups , or fans aren't immune to assholes . I simply remember in the washroom looking around and seeing mainly yellow , but a few said we were glad you could come down to the game . It's always exciting when our fans come down . And of course the craft beer guy was begging us to return . We tipped well and drank the same . I actually can sense trouble and avoid it anyway , unless our fans start it , then I can pissed at them .

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    Quote Originally Posted by BritSOL View Post
    I thinking of going to Montreal for this game. Are there other sections as well as 112 for TFC supporters, or is that one big enough?
    if 112 is allocated for away support it is definitely big enough . I say that because Saputo is not always consistent regarding away fans . But the Montreal front office was very professional and sends us letters to this day . Their general fans are very quiet but their supporters aren't , they do have a few rowdies . But it is way more organized than here and we all travelled on the subway together after the game , although in numbers with great fun . The regular subway riders were bemused by the crazy singing by us all . As for the sections I always find it reassurring with my wife to sit in 'our' section .Last year members of all groups were together and it was wonderful , met some very nice 'new' to me fans . BUT , hopefully there is NO smoke or flags in the face , unless controlled . (Betcha I start a discussion on this one).
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    last time we went, someone decided the whole section was GA but not everyone agreed, so we had people standing in our seats then tried to tell us to go find another seat.
    I dont mind GA, id be fine with it if it was official but I got livid when someone made a decision for us.
    Oddly the only time ive ever had any animosity with a supporter was with another TFC supporter who was half my size but had three times the mouth on him, that was this Columbus away game. I let him know where i sit in Toronto and to come pay me a visit as i sure as fuck wasnt going to go to jail in Columbus for his dumb ass. Generally people on both sides are chill as fuck tho, these two stories shouldnt deter anyone from away games or hanging with other supporters as they are exceptions not the rule

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    Quote Originally Posted by TravelPat View Post
    I know some of you won't like this comment - but here goes. What happened to TFC2007 should not have happened - but that it did reflects very badly on the Montreal fans who did it. That the consensus reaction here is that visiting fans need to be buffered and separated by security from home fans (which I know does happen at soccer games in Europe) reflects equally as badly on soccer supporters here.

    I go to NHL games as a Leafs fan and have sat next to avid Habs fans in for the game from Montreal - no problem. I go to Argos games as an avid Ti-Cats fan - no problem. I've gone to Jays games at Yankees Stadium or Fenway Park sitting among fans of those teams - no problem.

    Why is boorish behaviour considered acceptable behaviour for soccer supporters? Why do they act in such a way that problems ARE expected if they mix with fans of the other team? Why do soccer supporters have to be separated by security or a buffer zone when the same is not true of any other aspect of our life and certainly is not required as a rule at any other sport event in these parts.

    This all reflects VERY poorly on soccer supporters groups.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mateo1985 View Post
    So when we are there for October 25th game, are we going to be separated? I know their 112 is for away supporters but is it right next to other sections? It is right? This will be interesting. I'm really looking forward to supporting TFC at Saputo
    Right next to the family section believe it or not
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    Why are people poo-pooing segregated fan sections? It's the standard in the world, and if you are an away fan, a shit load of fun...


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    Quote Originally Posted by zeelaw View Post
    Why are people poo-pooing segregated fan sections? It's the standard in the world, and if you are an away fan, a shit load of fun...
    I think its because some would like to think that the North American fan is less likely to be partake in hooliganism that we see elsewhere in the world.

    Having a segregated away section would be setting a standard in North America(no other sport does this to my knowledge in NA), and that actually would look bad in the publics eyes because it would stand out amongst other sports.

    TLDR; Having segregated sections would just further instill confirmation bias amongst the casual fan that soccer fans are hooligans and MLS doesn't want the bad image other leagues may get by setting this standard. Basically by having a segregated away section you are acknowledging there is a problem with confrontational fans. That is the main reason they were implemented around the world right? For Safety? Not just having a simple away section like MLS currently does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billyfly View Post
    In 112 two Impact supporters came and sat right in our mist to the complete astonishment of all around us. We told them "this is the worst possible place for you to sit"

    Security came and took them away.
    I remember that couple, they were supposed to be sitting beside me and my buddy. They were escorted out before kick-off though!

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    It'd be interesting to know how many TFC fans make it to MTL for the 25th.

    More chance of assholes being in the crowd.

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    The 25th will be interesting, i know a bunch of people waiting it out and only going if the game is meaningful in the standings. Most are waiting/saving money to do the first away playoff game assuming we get one, which looks to be either DC or NYRB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    I think its because some would like to think that the North American fan is less likely to be partake in hooliganism that we see elsewhere in the world.

    Having a segregated away section would be setting a standard in North America(no other sport does this to my knowledge in NA), and that actually would look bad in the publics eyes because it would stand out amongst other sports.

    TLDR; Having segregated sections would just further instill confirmation bias amongst the casual fan that soccer fans are hooligans and MLS doesn't want the bad image other leagues may get by setting this standard. Basically by having a segregated away section you are acknowledging there is a problem with confrontational fans. That is the main reason they were implemented around the world right? For Safety? Not just having a simple away section like MLS currently does.
    MLS/MLSE should at least implement some sort of way to stop home field supporter tickets from being sold to non supporters. I know some will disagree since they like selling their seats on the open market to the tourists who want to be part of the action but it would cut down on scalper tickets in the north end and open up more seats to those supporters who "visit" on a regular basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TravelPat View Post
    I know some of you won't like this comment - but here goes. What happened to TFC2007 should not have happened - but that it did reflects very badly on the Montreal fans who did it. That the consensus reaction here is that visiting fans need to be buffered and separated by security from home fans (which I know does happen at soccer games in Europe) reflects equally as badly on soccer supporters here.

    I go to NHL games as a Leafs fan and have sat next to avid Habs fans in for the game from Montreal - no problem. I go to Argos games as an avid Ti-Cats fan - no problem. I've gone to Jays games at Yankees Stadium or Fenway Park sitting among fans of those teams - no problem.

    Why is boorish behaviour considered acceptable behaviour for soccer supporters? Why do they act in such a way that problems ARE expected if they mix with fans of the other team? Why do soccer supporters have to be separated by security or a buffer zone when the same is not true of any other aspect of our life and certainly is not required as a rule at any other sport event in these parts.

    This all reflects VERY poorly on soccer supporters groups.
    As an avid Ti-Cat fan you must have seen the treatment of Argos fans at Ivor Wynne, especially in the cheap seats. Some of the language and abuse that I've heard Hamilton fans direct towards Argos fans is really low brow stuff. Its a level of behavior that I will never expect to see at an MLS game. With this Montreal-Toronto rivalry in MLS I don't think we are at that stage yet where we need to take extreme precautions and segregate fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TravelPat View Post
    I know some of you won't like this comment - but here goes. What happened to TFC2007 should not have happened - but that it did reflects very badly on the Montreal fans who did it. That the consensus reaction here is that visiting fans need to be buffered and separated by security from home fans (which I know does happen at soccer games in Europe) reflects equally as badly on soccer supporters here.

    I go to NHL games as a Leafs fan and have sat next to avid Habs fans in for the game from Montreal - no problem. I go to Argos games as an avid Ti-Cats fan - no problem. I've gone to Jays games at Yankees Stadium or Fenway Park sitting among fans of those teams - no problem.

    Why is boorish behaviour considered acceptable behaviour for soccer supporters? Why do they act in such a way that problems ARE expected if they mix with fans of the other team? Why do soccer supporters have to be separated by security or a buffer zone when the same is not true of any other aspect of our life and certainly is not required as a rule at any other sport event in these parts.

    This all reflects VERY poorly on soccer supporters groups.
    Sorry, I am not a wasp, I do not have those wasp sensibilities. I also do not think that I would be so hurt and offended as tfc2007 that the away fans told him to get lost, WTF would you expect them to say????

    I do not give a rats ass as to how it reflects on soccer supporters, I am passionate about the game, and if you are in my city, in my stadium, and you are cheering for the over team, particularly if you are an ass about it, then there likely will be a confrontation. Understanding this, you keep us separated. It is common sense. This is football, not fucking ballet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trane View Post
    Sorry, I am not a wasp, I do not have those wasp sensibilities. I also do not think that I would be so hurt and offended as tfc2007 that the away fans told him to get lost, WTF would you expect them to say????

    I do not give a rats ass as to how it reflects on soccer supporters, I am passionate about the game, and if you are in my city, in my stadium, and you are cheering for the over team, particularly if you are an ass about it, then there likely will be a confrontation. Understanding this, you keep us separated. It is common sense. This is football, not fucking ballet.
    Agreed!

    Plus, if you are an away fan and sit with other away supporters in a dedicated away section, it's more fun anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzy View Post
    we had the numbers before at The cheese factory and we basically controlled the whole section . Although held back by security before getting in we were always surrounded by security . We 'll see this time around . Must say their security in the stands were easy going . They love us we drink more than all their supporters it seems . And we had to wait approx 30 mins? , after game end to leave . This time around there may be less supporters as back then it was very well organized . But needless to say , got my tickets already .
    In Montreal they have the advantage of a relatively empty stadium, so easy to put entire sections aside. And also a lot more Toronto supporters coming to Montreal, than the handful of Montreal supporters that were in the section here.

    But at the same time, when in Montreal, you see Toronto supporters through the stadium - people who have just bought tickets off Ticketmaster. It's not really an issue - nor is it here, when Impact supporters appear in 220 or 105.

    The only place here I've seen away supporters taking over sections was in Seattle with Portland supporters. Though it was a pre-season "friendly" with general admission. It was quite the sight to see ... about 2,000 away supporters for a friendly! I accidentally walked into one of the sections the Portland supporters were in ... and then realised I had a dark green jacket on - and stayed for the half! Great show!

    TFC seemed to screw up a few things on Saturday. From the second eastern concourse, we were forced out on the side. And then spent about 20 minutes to walk the 30 metres from the NE corner of the stadium to near the ticket counters. It was a pretty ugly scene. I think some CNE attendees were on the verge of panic with the crowding, and ultimately the police had to step in and resort to crowd control. I lost track of the person right behind me, and when I stood further up waiting for him, it was a whole 5 minutes before he reappeared.

    The layout of the CNE near the NE corner of the stadium doesn't help. They've created a huge bottleneck, that can barely cope with the regular crowd - and falls apart when thousands of people leaving BMO are forced through.
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    The person who wrote that, imagine you went to a Ti-Cats game in ottawa and sat with 200 other ti-cats fans. You went out for a drink with them before and after the game, how many new friends would you make? Thats the beauty of away travel in soccer, you go with a group of people and then you meet several other groups of people and have a blast while supporting your team (i.e. Chicago this year was an amazing away trip even though the result was shit)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pint View Post
    The 25th will be interesting, i know a bunch of people waiting it out and only going if the game is meaningful in the standings. Most are waiting/saving money to do the first away playoff game assuming we get one, which looks to be either DC or NYRB.

    I'm doing this... If the game will be meaningful, I want to go. If not I'll save the budget for playoffs.

    Also, this would be my first Away game...
    How do you get tickets in the away supporters' section?
    Can you get them straight off ticketmaster, or do you need to go through a supporters group?

 

 

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