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    Went to the match yesterday with my dad. We had tickets in section 206, 2 rows in front of where the MTL Supporters groups were. When we went to sit in our seats the MTL supporters tried to block us from getting there, trying to push me down the aisle. I went to my seat and sat down, while my dad went to grab a beer. The people directly behind me then went on to spit on my head and tell me to get out of their section, even though I showed them that my tickets were for those seats.

    2 things:

    1. I have only been to 2 away games, both a couple years ago. I have never seen TFC fans act like this, and I hope I never do.

    2. Why does TFC/MLSE not have proper security and spacing around away supporters groups. I should not have to put up with shit like this to go watch a soccer match.


    When my dad came back we decided to go to fan services. Jodi from fan services was very helpful and moved our seats for us, but that is besides the point. They should have proper security from the start.

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    Push you down the aisle wtf how many rows down would you have fallen!?! This is just insane

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    Don't let this slide. Put your experience/complaint in writing to the club. Copy the soccer writers/bloggers. Did you get any photographs?

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    I was sitting on the west side. from there I could spot only two security dudes handling what looked like about 50-100 impact fans. No wonder shit like this was happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by molenshtain View Post
    I was sitting on the west side. from there I could spot only two security dudes handling what looked like about 50-100 impact fans. No wonder shit like this was happening.
    I know a couple of the Montreal supporters and met up with them after the match. They were astounded by the lack of security both in the stands and upon entry to the stadium. They were particularly surprised by the fact that TFC supporters were sitting right up in front of them.

    I think TFC showed off their naivety on the day. Not having a buffer zone in place along with a line of security is just foolish!

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    No I didn't get any photos. This was just before kick off, and to be honest I wanted to get out of there. Only a couple other people in the row in front of me. After some idiot spit on the top of my head from the row above me I left.

    I am not sure there is anything really to do about it now. It is just idiotic how understaffed the security was.

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    In 112 two Impact supporters came and sat right in our mist to the complete astonishment of all around us. We told them "this is the worst possible place for you to sit"

    Security came and took them away.

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    Reminds me of one time during the really lean years -say mid mariner era - that three youngish girls with SKC jerseys stood right in the front of 112 for a solid half. It was highly amusing.

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    Listen the guys were assess, but the away supporters area should be segregated. It is only common sense. Otherwise you are asking for trouble. Why would you even what to sit there. I know I would get in a fight in about 10 minutes.

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    Yah I'm very surprised at this - Disappointed at TFC. Last year they brought out the K-9 unit and had an entire row of security and police, what happened now?

    File your complain with TFC and MLS, maybe their fans will get another sanction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    Yah I'm very surprised at this - Disappointed at TFC. Last year they brought out the K-9 unit and had an entire row of security and police, what happened now?

    File your complain with TFC and MLS, maybe their fans will get another sanction.
    Yeah seriously. Every time I travel away they always segregate us to protect us and the home fans. I wish TFC would do the same here.


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    At least its good to go to a match and actually see some supporters from an opposing team. Those travelling FC Dallas fans always give me a hard time boo hoo.

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    I know some of you won't like this comment - but here goes. What happened to TFC2007 should not have happened - but that it did reflects very badly on the Montreal fans who did it. That the consensus reaction here is that visiting fans need to be buffered and separated by security from home fans (which I know does happen at soccer games in Europe) reflects equally as badly on soccer supporters here.

    I go to NHL games as a Leafs fan and have sat next to avid Habs fans in for the game from Montreal - no problem. I go to Argos games as an avid Ti-Cats fan - no problem. I've gone to Jays games at Yankees Stadium or Fenway Park sitting among fans of those teams - no problem.

    Why is boorish behaviour considered acceptable behaviour for soccer supporters? Why do they act in such a way that problems ARE expected if they mix with fans of the other team? Why do soccer supporters have to be separated by security or a buffer zone when the same is not true of any other aspect of our life and certainly is not required as a rule at any other sport event in these parts.

    This all reflects VERY poorly on soccer supporters groups.

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    I happened to be up on the 3rd floor of the east concourse when some of them went up the stairs. No security escort. They were all smiling. Couples, younger older. Looked positively tame. No segregation area for them to buy stuff and go to the can. It was unreal given issues that have happened in the past.

    But I have no idea how you segregate about 100 people when the rest of the stadium is sold out, let alone during the Ex with all the hullaballoo going on. There is no area in BMO that can really handle that anymore.


    I noticed that by the end of the game there were about 5 yellow shirts up there keeping them in while everybody else left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TravelPat View Post
    I know some of you won't like this comment - but here goes. What happened to TFC2007 should not have happened - but that it did reflects very badly on the Montreal fans who did it. That the consensus reaction here is that visiting fans need to be buffered and separated by security from home fans (which I know does happen at soccer games in Europe) reflects equally as badly on soccer supporters here.

    I go to NHL games as a Leafs fan and have sat next to avid Habs fans in for the game from Montreal - no problem. I go to Argos games as an avid Ti-Cats fan - no problem. I've gone to Jays games at Yankees Stadium or Fenway Park sitting among fans of those teams - no problem.

    Why is boorish behaviour considered acceptable behaviour for soccer supporters? Why do they act in such a way that problems ARE expected if they mix with fans of the other team? Why do soccer supporters have to be separated by security or a buffer zone when the same is not true of any other aspect of our life and certainly is not required as a rule at any other sport event in these parts.

    This all reflects VERY poorly on soccer supporters groups.
    I think it makes more sense (in the sense that I understand how it happens), when you're talking about soccer teams that have been around for 80-100 years, in areas of the world where soccer and things like bitter political conflict are extremely intertwined - like the teams in Italy that have explicitly fascist supporters groups.

    But in North America? No. Give me a break. Habs fans don't require their own segregated section at the ACC. I don't know why traveling Montreal oooltras should require additional babysitting.

    That said, TFC were foolish not to take the proper security precautions, because we all know this DOES happen. You can acknowledge that this behaviour is idiotic and should not happen, while also acknowledging that TFC should do more in anticipation of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TravelPat View Post
    I know some of you won't like this comment - but here goes. What happened to TFC2007 should not have happened - but that it did reflects very badly on the Montreal fans who did it. That the consensus reaction here is that visiting fans need to be buffered and separated by security from home fans (which I know does happen at soccer games in Europe) reflects equally as badly on soccer supporters here.

    I go to NHL games as a Leafs fan and have sat next to avid Habs fans in for the game from Montreal - no problem. I go to Argos games as an avid Ti-Cats fan - no problem. I've gone to Jays games at Yankees Stadium or Fenway Park sitting among fans of those teams - no problem.

    Why is boorish behaviour considered acceptable behaviour for soccer supporters? Why do they act in such a way that problems ARE expected if they mix with fans of the other team? Why do soccer supporters have to be separated by security or a buffer zone when the same is not true of any other aspect of our life and certainly is not required as a rule at any other sport event in these parts.

    This all reflects VERY poorly on soccer supporters groups.
    This is true to 95% of the fans in any arena in any sport.... Clearly you have not been to a Browns/Steelers throwball game..or any collage game for that matter...Habs /leaf fans in the arena will be fine because most of them are very 'well off" to afford those seats..try going to a bar in Montreal with you Leaf jersey. Mix alcohol with passion you might get trouble from anyone including you own fans waving flags in your face to disrupt the views.

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    when i exited the east stands after the game the only issue was the ex and the hordes of people - madness - and the fact they closed off the north east stairs exit - BRUTAL - we exited with many Montreal fans and there wasn't an issue with any of them or TFC fans towards them - completely mingled as we very slowly went down the stairs....

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    Quote Originally Posted by billyfly View Post
    In 112 two Impact supporters came and sat right in our mist to the complete astonishment of all around us. We told them "this is the worst possible place for you to sit"

    Security came and took them away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by molenshtain View Post
    I was sitting on the west side. from there I could spot only two security dudes handling what looked like about 50-100 impact fans. No wonder shit like this was happening.
    I noticed the same thing when looking over there. That's not adequate.

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    Obviously the FO is relying on the good ole' "wait until something gets fucking out of hand to deal with" approach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TravelPat View Post
    I know some of you won't like this comment - but here goes. What happened to TFC2007 should not have happened - but that it did reflects very badly on the Montreal fans who did it. That the consensus reaction here is that visiting fans need to be buffered and separated by security from home fans (which I know does happen at soccer games in Europe) reflects equally as badly on soccer supporters here.

    I go to NHL games as a Leafs fan and have sat next to avid Habs fans in for the game from Montreal - no problem. I go to Argos games as an avid Ti-Cats fan - no problem. I've gone to Jays games at Yankees Stadium or Fenway Park sitting among fans of those teams - no problem.

    Why is boorish behaviour considered acceptable for soccer supporters? Why do they act in such a way that problems ARE expected if they mix with fans of the other team? Why do soccer supporters have to be separated by security or a buffer zone when the same is not true of any other aspect of our life and certainly is not required as a rule at any other sport event in these parts.

    This all reflects VERY poorly on soccer supporters groups.
    And I have examples of boorish behavior in Montreal for a Leafs game. It's not exclusive to our game it's just accepted to a different level because it's the flipside of how good passionate support can be. Rowdy doesn't have to mean violent but it's a direct relation to how passionate sports crowds can get.

    It would be pretty easy to take the air out the supporter balloon with the way NA sport is monitored by security on the day. Lucky for us MLS wants this atmo (minus actual fighting in the stands) as much as we do.
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    In no other sport in North America do you have organized groups traveling to support an away team, you need a designated area to put 50+ people who are together. Segregation happens for safety reasons but also because they are designated away "supporter sections" where flags, banners, drums etc are allowed.

    If you want to talk about boorish behaviour you need look no further than the number of fights at a bills game between their own fans.

    Habs vs Leafs always bring violence, i've seen many fights take place in mtl post game.

    Segregation of away supporters helps maintain a safe environment for all, it's just that TFC didn't do it particularly well this time.

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    these reports freaked me out a bit because I sent a coworker and her family up there to 203 and was hesitant the whole time about getting those tickets for them (vai the board here). Just talked to her and they were fine but a nice gap between them and the away supporters..10 rows or something she said.


    What's with TFC security tho, is it a revolving door of staff/management there? Surely someone who's been there for a few years should have known of past incidents with the MTL travellers. The reactionary approach has bit them in the past too heh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pint View Post
    In no other sport in North America do you have organized groups traveling to support an away team, you need a designated area to put 50+ people who are together. Segregation happens for safety reasons but also because they are designated away "supporter sections" where flags, banners, drums etc are allowed.

    If you want to talk about boorish behaviour you need look no further than the number of fights at a bills game between their own fans.

    Habs vs Leafs always bring violence, i've seen many fights take place in mtl post game.

    Segregation of away supporters helps maintain a safe environment for all, it's just that TFC didn't do it particularly well this time.

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    There seemed to be something off with the whole match. The fireworks going off before the anthems, the banner bearers coming out mid-anthem, the FO TIFO going over our section (109) just as the whistle blew... just seemed like it was amateur day there right from the start.
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    So when we are there for October 25th game, are we going to be separated? I know their 112 is for away supporters but is it right next to other sections? It is right? This will be interesting. I'm really looking forward to supporting TFC at Saputo

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    Quote Originally Posted by fergiejr View Post
    There seemed to be something off with the whole match. The fireworks going off before the anthems...
    That was planned. It was timed to go with the video that intros Bitchy.

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    Thinking about BMO, I'm not sure there is even a place you can segregate supporters, and certainly not in the new 200's on the east side - you can't separate an area for away fans to go their own bathroom or have separated concessions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-boy View Post
    Thinking about BMO, I'm not sure there is even a place you can segregate supporters, and certainly not in the new 200's on the east side - you can't separate an area for away fans to go their own bathroom or have separated concessions.
    They've done it several times when Montreal visits. They just surround them with yellow jackets around the away support section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fort York Redcoat View Post
    They've done it several times when Montreal visits. They just surround them with yellow jackets around the away support section.
    What happens when they need the bathroom or want to buy a beer? They just walk through the TFC fans to get the concessions?!

    I'm imaging what would happen in other country's if that did happen, you wouldn't come back from the bathroom alive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-boy View Post
    What happens when they need the bathroom or want to buy a beer? They just walk through the TFC fans to get the concessions?!

    I'm imaging what would happen in other country's if that did happen, you wouldn't come back from the bathroom alive!
    They just use the facilities closest to them and don't go alone. It's standard procedure if there's away support security.
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