And now I'm thinking to myself, "Which TFC game of this season do I suggest to ginkster88 to point out how good TFC has been too?"
And now I'm thinking to myself, "Which TFC game of this season do I suggest to ginkster88 to point out how good TFC has been too?"
Montreal. San Jose. Portland.Originally Posted by OgtheDim
Pirlo isn't the mistake, Fwank is.
If they're playing the 442 Diamond, Pirlo at the base >>>>>>>> having Fwank play as a shuttler. They already have Mix anyway.
You need two work horses in front of Pirlo. It'd have to be McNamara and Mix and then you pray to god that lampard learns how to be a creative passer at the tip of the diamond.
It is Poku and Mix in front of Pirlo
45 minutes in and he's the one of the worst players on the pitch.
So no, they're not unbeatable. Their midfield is one unbalanced mess.
Pirlo, Diskerud and Lampard in your midfield requires both a defensive mid and bombing full backs, neither of which NYCFC have.
Diskerud to be subbed and they trade for a dmid.
Pirlo has been shit.
Lampard at the point of the diamond is OK. But Pirlo at the bottoms is just a bad idea.
I just don't see how these 3 are going to fit together.
Only can see it working in a 3-5-2 but Kreis ain't got the wingers for that.
Angelino could work in a 3-5-2 but they traded their other attacking fullback to us.
If you play 4-2-3-1, you need someone who can stretch the play ala Finlay, Sam, or Manneh. If you can't, the fullbacks need to be higher but their not. Everything is down the middle and it's predictable.
Last edited by PopePouri; 08-09-2015 at 08:40 PM.
Silva needs somebody to run the channels beside him. He is wasted as a solo forward. But he's the stronger of the 3 DP's. Lampard looked good for about an hour and then fell off, as expected of a guy out of shape just getting back.
Pirlo made one glorious pass that was onside and the assistant called it.
Apart from that, Pirlo looks lost. Classic case of a European playmaker expecting people to stay in position both on his team and on his opponent. I suppose this means one less team to beat to the playoffs but watching a player you admire go through a situation like this where the team is just not set up for him or for the other big names is just sad. I know what the big wigs at Man City were thinking bringing Pirlo in but the last thing they needed was a deep lying playmaker who can't defend. That DP slot should have gone to a forward or a proper destroyer.
I don't like NYCFC and think they are a bunch of diving whining cheating fouling bastards.
But don't put Pirlo into that mess. Its going to get embarassing.
Last edited by OgtheDim; 08-09-2015 at 08:58 PM.
Give the guy a break let's have this discussion after he has settled in properly this was barely his 3rd game coming in in the middle of the season people. New country, new culture, new city new teammates. I don't care who you are but it will take a little bit of time for any player to settle in.
He's getting 8 million for his time here. Why can't there be any scrutiny?
Many analysts predicted that the arrival of Lampard and Pirlo will provide class to their midfield but no legs and so far they are right. You can't start two slow, aging midfielders who can't defend, in the middle of the park and expect them not to be overrun.
Pirlo was fine coming off the bench when the game was stretched. When he starts though, he looks like a liability when he doesn't have quality support next to him to play out of the press. And by quality support, crazy superhuman midfielders like Vidal and Pogba.
Last edited by PopePouri; 08-09-2015 at 09:53 PM.
You want to have this discussion now on Pirlo after just 2 and a half games ok well I guess your doing it, I'll get back to you after another 4 or 5 and if he is still shit my friend then I will agree with you but I need more games to make a judgment on the guy in MLS, and remember even though they have the 3 big players this is still an expansion team he is coming to, we are in year 9 and still not certain of making the post season, Pirlo and his other DP friends in the end our still playing on an expansion team after all is said and done.
So is Kaka and he had an instant impact.
Kaka took part in the preseason training camp while Pirlo just got here in the middle of the season makes a difference I think but I guess you don't think it does.
Check out this tweet at https://twitter.com/WillParchman/status/630592463934128129
No. This thread was started before he even got here. Apparently there were people who wanted to have a discussion about his dominance before he had time to settle in. This thread is just keeping up with his progress.
I haven't seen anyone in here slagging what Pirlo's done before this move.
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
https://twitter.com/Ben_Jata/status/630737769455845376
Take a boo at these clips and judge for yourself.
It's going to be a tough adaptation for him, I think. Their current setup doesn't take advantage of what he brings to the table.
Toronto FC baby...best team everrrrrrrrrr -Jozy
I don't think MLS is a league that suits his style of play at this stage of his career. He'll have his moments but I can see him struggling a lot more than he's used to, especially against our more physical and pressing teams.
Agreed. He needs at least one athletic, physical tackler to play alongside him.
Toronto FC baby...best team everrrrrrrrrr -Jozy
TBH, those clips remind me of Cheyrou's first couple games. A lot of not being used to where players in MLS press you from and where team mates will be. He'll still be a defensive liability, but I wouldn't expect to see mistakes like these for too many games.
Check out this tweet at https://twitter.com/andrew_wiebe/status/630744248699199492
"Welcome to MLS" v 3.0
#getusedtoit
Be lotsa tackles like that coming.
Check out this tweet at https://twitter.com/DaxMcCarty11/status/630850575568125952
Looks like a legit tackle to me.
Not surprised to see him struggle early on. Wrong type of player for this league, and certainly not in the best teams to exploit is abilities. I don't hold out high hopes that it will get better for him.
Shame to see this happen to such a classy player. Kind of reminds me of Nesta. One month he's shutting Messi down in the CL, a few months later he's getting turned inside out by fairly average MLS players.
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