Andrea Pirlo to MLS?
Numerous reports out of New York that this amazingly talented player will be signing with NYCFC very soon. Even at age 36, his exquisite distribution and free kick artistry will be unmatched in MLS. With Villa, and Frank Lampard, could this expansion club be unbeatable (at least for this year)?
Umm no. NYCFC's depth is weak and adding old players who are past their prime isn't going to make them unbeatableOriginally Posted by 69Chevy396
You haven't been watching Pirlo much, have you?
You don't know much about MLS and it's history of old DP's and their injuries?
3 points
a) NYCFC is going to be travelling to LAG, Vancouver, Seattle and Orlando. Pirlo and Lampard have no idea what that is going to do to their bodies.
b) There are numerous reports indicating Kreis wanted and had scouted much younger DP Playmakers who would be with NYCFC for 3-5 years. He was trumped by bosses looking for the splash.
c) Don't we have another forum for MLS talk?
Haha I'm going to laugh when their old DP's get destroyed by the turf monster, have fun with that NYCF.
you do know pirlo is a better player than Bradley even at his age right ? you do know pirlo just started in the champions league finals right ? Do some of you guys even watch European soccer ?
Last edited by TorontoFC6fan; 06-25-2015 at 04:47 PM.
We'll see how he is when he'll have no time on the ball here. It'll be a shock. Plus the travel and turf as mentioned. They can have their old man DP/hack goon squad.
Better in the slower, less overtly physical Serie A, yes.
This is bizarro MLS here. All that stuff means nothing until players actually play here and deal with the various types of B.S that come with this league.
Pirlo and Lampard could both make their NYCFC MLS debuts against the Reds at Yankee Stadium on July 12th. Would be an interesting game with Michael, Jozy, Jonathan and Ashton all away at the Gold Cup.
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you can spin it how ever you want. fact remains he's a better player than Bradley and if you're trying to argue that point then there is no reason for me to take you serious. you can bring up his age but his team made it to the champions league finals with him controlling the midfield.
Last edited by TorontoFC6fan; 06-25-2015 at 04:55 PM.
Serie A is a very physical league, anybody who watches Italian soccer acknowledges this. TFC has Giovinco, a player who characterizes that league better than anyone else in MLS: Talented, hungry, tough as nails. Pirlo has seen it all. He is still one of the world's top players, did everything Beckhan could only dream of, and his style of play does not require a lot of running or ball chasing. Think a much better version of Higuain, better than Kaka, better than Beckham. It will be a real treat to see him here, if only for a year or two.
Last edited by 69Chevy396; 06-25-2015 at 05:06 PM.
Best midfield hair in the league?
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Speaking of which, is anyone going to that game? I'd love to if RPB members are going
Look at the players he could pass to at juventus. He won't have that at NYC except for Villa. We'll see beautiful passes to guys who don't know what to do with them. Similar to when Frings was here.
That may be true, but great players have a way of making normal guys much better...Osario was a bum until he got on the pitch with Bradley and Giovinco. Higuain used to come to BMO with a group of bums, and frequently carve up our team. Pirlo would make a huge contribution to any MLS team, and like Giovinco, will be thrilling to watch.
Pirlo may be 10x the player Bradley is on a top European team, but I'd still take Bradley in MLS. The style of players like Bradley, Giovinco, and Altidore is that they don't need great players around them to be effective. You get the ball to Giovinco enough anywhere on the pitch and he'll make goals happen. Bradley can power through the other team's midfield regardless of who's playing with him (although you'll get burned on the counter if you don't play someone behind him). But Pirlo's strength is dictating play from deep. You pick up a player like that and you had better have some damn good players ahead of him. I think Kreis is a smart manager who can find a system that utilizes Pirlo's strengths, but I'm not sure if it would be enough to make it a signing worth doing. We'll see I guess. It would probably be fun to watch if they successfully build a system around Pirlo and Villa
Giovinco is thriving in this league because he is getting the kind of time and space he would never get in Italy, and as you can see is quite ok with physical play, Serie A is physical, in some ways all european leagues other then perhaps Spain are.
Having said that Pirlo, may hit the wall, but I thought that when he left Milan four years ago.
I also agree with Ajax, Pirlo may be quickly frustrated with MLS play.
Pirlo would absolutely destroy MLS and have a bigger impact than Seba. He has played against the best in the world and MLS would be childs play for him, even at his current age.
Giovinco is the best DP in the league, and the arrival of Pirlo isn't going to change that. He's a legendary midfielder, but at his age, the pace of MLS is going to limit his impact.
At the current stage of their careers, I'd take Bradley over Pirlo in our midfield every day of the week.
Osorio still is a bum, and I hope he is gone before the Gold Cup ends.
Smh what the fuck
The thread is not about TFC, or DPs in MLS, it is focussed on the potential arrival of one of the best footballers of the generation, who, despite his age, remains incredibly able, particularly in a third tier league such as MLS. Pirlo was named Serie A player of the year in 2014 because he was, the leagues best player...it will be a treat to see him here, similar to the arrival of Beckham, bringing much needed entertainment. No way New York can structure their long term plan around older players, but as a follower of soccer, wouldn't you prefer to watch Pirlo, Villa, Lampard, over the usual bums that stack expansion clubs? Remember Lombardo? Harmse? We have had our share of hacks in MLS.
Yeah I don't get that either.
Osorio had his best game as a pro on Wednesday, he made some terrific passes. He still can't find the net if his life depended on it, but has improved a lot.
depened
"Some great passes".... ok. can't find the net if his life depended on it, ... agreed.
You guys are right. He's not a bum. To keep the socio-economic analogy, he's a welfare recipient on food stamps. But improving!! Hooray!!! One day he might even get a job at McDonald's and rent a dingy basement studio apartment.
Still hope he gets moved
This fuckin thread rofl.
No argument there. In the short term, NYCFC is fielding a starting lineup with several world class players, and MLS and it's fans are better off because of it. I was responding to previous posts comparing Pirlo to Giovinco and Bradley. I would rather have a young DP core such as ours vs Villa, Lampard, and Pirlo entering the twilight of their careers.
That being said, I agree that Pirlo's arrival is great news for the league.
A couple of things:
1. The rules were very different back then, both with regard to DPs and Canadian content; and
2. Pirlo is fantastic, but the trouble with older players is that once they lose it, it goes pretty quickly. Pirlo is 3 years older than Beckham was when he joined MLS. So sure, he could continue being great. But at his age (plus the travel and "aggression" of MLS play) it is a risk that he fades. Although I suppose the upside is pretty good
Not sure what you are trying to convey?
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