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    Default Ugliness at US open cup game ...

    Ref lost control. Seattle ran out of subs and was down to 10, then lost three men to red cards, includign Dempsey, who lost his shit and went afte rthe ref and had to be held back. Portland were playing 11 vs 7 for most ofthe second half of extra time. Played at a small Stadium outside the city, 4,100 there, fans started pelting Portland fans with debris. LOL.

    Ref needed a police escort off the pitch.
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    Lmao Dempsey took the refs book and ripped it in half. Lol what a clown.

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    Looks good on Dempsey I am sure knowing the Americans nothing will happen

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    Dempsey is such a little shit. I don't care how many goals he creates for Seattle, I would never want a guy with his attitude on my team and I'm glad we didn't seriously go after him when he was available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notthesun View Post
    Dempsey is such a little shit. I don't care how many goals he creates for Seattle, I would never want a guy with his attitude on my team and I'm glad we didn't seriously go after him when he was available.
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    That could be a three month ban for Dempsey if the USSF plays it by the book

    Sam Borden@SamBorden 9m9 minutes ago
    Just watched video of Clint Dempsey ejection in last night's game; by definition, that's referee assault, which carries a min. 3 month ban.

    Sam Borden@SamBorden 7m7 minutes ago
    Why is ripping a referee's card assault? From @ussoccer's own laws, assault inc. "damaging the referee’s uniform or personal property"

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    Absolutely nuts. Clear case of referee assault. People who know these things (Sam Borden - see post above) say that per USSF rules that's a 3 month ban.

    I'm USMNT all the way but anybody who defends that behavior needs to GTFO.

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    Video below. Dempsey's hissy fit is around 2:29 or so.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/timbers/in...y_seattle.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Areathrasher View Post
    That could be a three month ban for Dempsey if the USSF plays it by the book

    Sam Borden@SamBorden 9m9 minutes ago
    Just watched video of Clint Dempsey ejection in last night's game; by definition, that's referee assault, which carries a min. 3 month ban.

    Sam Borden@SamBorden 7m7 minutes ago
    Why is ripping a referee's card assault? From @ussoccer's own laws, assault inc. "damaging the referee’s uniform or personal property"
    It's their own laws, and like MLS they will interpret it as they see fit

    (In other words, he will get like a 1 or 2 game ban, tops)

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    Would the disciplinary action translate to MLS matches as well?

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    Since it is a USOC game and not MLS, I don't see how the MLS can suspend him.

    Not sure what they can do besides suspend for next year's cup.
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    Main question is if a violent conduct suspension established during USOC (which a USSF competition) would apply to Gold Cup appearances.

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    He should definitely be banned until mid September.
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    I feel as though the punishment may be the full US Open Cup next year, and however many MLS games until he is to be off to the US training camp for the Gold Cup.

    Its punishment but also gives him time to rest for the Gold Cup.

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    USSF won't do shit about their poster boy.

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    I think its a bit of a stretch to call it an "assault". He just snatched the referees books from his hand and then ripped it in half, it was quite funny really! Call it robbery or theft, but not an assault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevy View Post
    Video below. Dempsey's hissy fit is around 2:29 or so.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/timbers/in...y_seattle.html
    Thanks for the link. Just went ahead and watched the whole game. CRAZINESS!
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    To me, this is as bad as Suarez biting. Not technically an assault on the body but its intimidation of refs and should get him a long ban from all comps.

    If this happened in Europe, he'd be pilloried and get that lengthy ban.

    Here, he's likely to get a ban from the US Cup, play in MLS next weekend and captain the USMNT next month.

    All the while Seattle supporters will say he is a great guy .....blah...blah...blah.


    Douche indeed.

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    whats up with the shorts pulling up, tucknig untucking? that was realy weird lol

    I liek how portland players are even trying to cool him down.

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    Assault in the context of USSF policy, not criminal assault:

    Policy 531-9 Misconduct Toward Game Officials
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    Section 3 (3)(b) Assault includes, but is not limited to the following acts committed upon a referee: hitting, kicking, punching, choking, spitting on, grabbing or bodily running into a referee; head butting; the act of kicking or throwing any object at a referee that could inflict injury; damaging the referee’s uniform or personal property, i.e. car, equipment, etc.

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    Probably a sign of a strong football culture that you get such an emotional and potentially violent match lol...

    Police escorting referees home? All we need now is spectators throwing bags of piss at visiting teams and laser pointers at goalies...wow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    To me, this is as bad as Suarez biting. Not technically an assault on the body but its intimidation of refs and should get him a long ban from all comps.

    If this happened in Europe, he'd be pilloried and get that lengthy ban.

    Here, he's likely to get a ban from the US Cup, play in MLS next weekend and captain the USMNT next month.

    All the while Seattle supporters will say he is a great guy .....blah...blah...blah.


    Douche indeed.

    It's prob more closer to what Di Canio did when playing in the UK, he pushed the ref over whilst playing for Sheffield Wednesday. Can't remember his ban, but I'm sure it was around 10 game mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop Blaize View Post
    It's prob more closer to what Di Canio did when playing in the UK, he pushed the ref over whilst playing for Sheffield Wednesday. Can't remember his ban, but I'm sure it was around 10 game mark.

    11 matches - 1/4 of the season. MLS ban of 9 games would be appropriate but it ain't going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercorporate View Post
    Probably a sign of a strong football culture that you get such an emotional and potentially violent match lol...

    Police escorting referees home? All we need now is spectators throwing bags of piss at visiting teams and laser pointers at goalies...wow...
    There was a game here 9aginst Houston I think) where Toledo had to get a police escort off the field after awarding a stoppage time penalty that sunk us. He stayed in the referee room for 3 hours, fearful of the backlash.

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    Clearly the match was a shit show by that point and maybe the reffing was making everyone crazy but there is a boundary of conduct. Doesn't serve anyone's interest to blur that line.

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    Dempsey continues to act like he's too good for the North American game, is anyone surprised? American fans are eating this shit up as well... what a disgrace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan View Post
    USSF won't do shit about their poster boy.
    He'll get similar punishment to what their poster girl Hope Solo got.

    Nothing but a few words expressing disappointment and probably a B.S apology from Dempsey.

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    I wonder if there would be real punishment if it was a PRO referee.

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    I wonder how many times other players have dreamed of doing what Dempsey did lol. That was the most amazing hissy fit in north american soccer history.

 

 

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