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    Default Game 12 - Mr. Morrow Goes to Washington - @ DCU Saturday 7 pm Sportsnet

    Tough game. No Bradley as he's off on USMNT duty. DCU is finding ways to win. Any result out of this will be a good one.

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    DC's playing mid week. Even without Bradley, now's a good chance to take points.

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    That turf though

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    Probable starting lineup:

    ---------Giovinco-------------Moore----------
    ---------------------Osorio--------------------
    -----------Chapman------Creavalle----------
    -------------------Cheyrou--------------------
    ---Morgan---Zavaleta---Perquis---Morrow--
    ------------------Konopka---------------------

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mateo1985 View Post
    That turf though
    ???

    It's grass ..... or to be precise "Prescription Athletic Turf".

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    Will be a fun day of footy beginging with the Champions League Final. Then at 6 pm the Candian Women open up the World Cup followed by the Reds-DCU at 7 pm. I will most likely give the women my attention until their game is over before tuning in to the Reds. Will be a fun day indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blizzard View Post
    ???

    It's grass ..... or to be precise "Prescription Athletic Turf".

    Oh oh that's good. I thought they still had turf there for a minute

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mateo1985 View Post
    Oh oh that's good. I thought they still had turf there for a minute

    If I'm not mistaken RFK has always been a grass pitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PopePouri View Post
    Probable starting lineup:

    ---------Giovinco-------------Moore----------
    ---------------------Osorio--------------------
    -----------Chapman------Creavalle----------
    -------------------Cheyrou--------------------
    ---Morgan---Zavaleta---Perquis---Morrow--
    ------------------Konopka---------------------
    Do you think Vanney may switch back to the 4-4-2 in an effort to make up for the fact we don't have Bradley and play a much more defensive minded match?

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    Hopefully Warner can return with Bradley out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akoto View Post
    Do you think Vanney may switch back to the 4-4-2 in an effort to make up for the fact we don't have Bradley and play a much more defensive minded match?
    I hope not. We have decent pieces to the possess and create chances through the middle. I think it's time to develop some sort of identity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PopePouri View Post
    I hope not. We have decent pieces to the possess and create chances through the middle. I think it's time to develop some sort of identity.
    a lot of that relies on Giovinco and Bradley making smart runs and feeding off each other to keep opposition defence unbalanced. Without Bradley, Giovinco becomes more easily contained and TFC has no real good back up for Bradley and what he can do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yohan View Post
    a lot of that relies on Giovinco and Bradley making smart runs and feeding off each other to keep opposition defence unbalanced. Without Bradley, Giovinco becomes more easily contained and TFC has no real good back up for Bradley and what he can do
    Oso should be given a shot in this role. It's his best position and he has shown some really good touches lately

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    I see your point PopePouri but I personally feel being able to switch tactics and formations to compensate for our weaknesses and the play of our opponents is slightly more important then establishing a formational identity. Yohan is correct in that without Bradley, Gio will have to adapt and work harder to find opportunities. A flatter 4-4-2 might give us a better chance at containing DC's attack and allow us to play a counter attack style that would allow Gio the opportunity to catch DC's CBs in more advantageous positions for him.

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    Agreed to a point - we should absolutely adapt to our opponent, particularly on the road. That said, a 4-4-2 doesn't maximize our best assert, Giovinco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyDM View Post
    Agreed to a point - we should absolutely adapt to our opponent, particularly on the road. That said, a 4-4-2 doesn't maximize our best assert, Giovinco.
    Perhaps I am misunderstanding something but I'm pretty sure we have been playing 4-4-2 the last few games with Bradley at the top of a diamond midfield. So why does a 4-4-2 not maximize Giovinco?

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    According to the title, this will be the lineup:


    Morrow



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    Quote Originally Posted by Yohan View Post
    a lot of that relies on Giovinco and Bradley making smart runs and feeding off each other to keep opposition defence unbalanced. Without Bradley, Giovinco becomes more easily contained and TFC has no real good back up for Bradley and what he can do
    Obviously the question marks are Oso and Chapman, but Oso found Gio a lot with good through balls in the last game (he got the secondary assist) and Chapman is a similar player to Oso. I think there's enough creativity with Oso, Gio, Cheyrou and Chapman to break down DC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PopePouri View Post
    Probable starting lineup:

    ---------Giovinco-------------Moore----------
    ---------------------Osorio--------------------
    -----------Chapman------Creavalle----------
    -------------------Cheyrou--------------------
    ---Morgan---Zavaleta---Perquis---Morrow--
    ------------------Konopka---------------------
    Might be better to play Chapman in the middle and Osorio on the left. He has played well there this year. Think of all the balls he's sent through to Giovinco from the left side against San Jose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PopePouri View Post
    Obviously the question marks are Oso and Chapman, but Oso found Gio a lot with good through balls in the last game (he got the secondary assist) and Chapman is a similar player to Oso. I think there's enough creativity with Oso, Gio, Cheyrou and Chapman to break down DC.
    it's not just being able to find Giovinco with passes. it's about attackers working in tandem with each other to pull away defenders to create channels for other players to exploit. passing is the easiest part. making smart runs and decisions is harder.

    Bradley is a threat because he works with Giovinco when making runs. plus he can dribble and make runs from deep centre midfield. Osorio has so far not shown he can do this on a consistent basis.

    btw, TFC is playing a modified 4-1-3-1-1. one day if I have the time, I'll have to explain more why this works
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yohan View Post
    it's not just being able to find Giovinco with passes. it's about attackers working in tandem with each other to pull away defenders to create channels for other players to exploit. passing is the easiest part. making smart runs and decisions is harder.

    Bradley is a threat because he works with Giovinco when making runs. plus he can dribble and make runs from deep centre midfield. Osorio has so far not shown he can do this on a consistent basis.

    btw, TFC is playing a modified 3-1-3-1-1. one day if I have the time, I'll have to explain more why this works
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    We're doing really well for only playing with nine outfield players
    bah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyDM View Post
    Agreed to a point - we should absolutely adapt to our opponent, particularly on the road. That said, a 4-4-2 doesn't maximize our best assert, Giovinco.
    As anto says below, we are already playing 4-4-2 or as Yohan probably more correctly put it 4-1-3-1-1, I meant playing a flatter 4-4-2 which would allow us to better absorb the DC attack, clog the midfield as well as take more pressure off our back line and hit on the counter.

    Not the most glamorous formation or tactic but we need to do whatever it takes to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronzilla View Post
    According to the title, this will be the lineup:


    Morrow


    Ummm......Movie reference

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    Quote Originally Posted by akoto View Post
    As anto says below, we are already playing 4-4-2 or as Yohan probably more correctly put it 4-1-3-1-1, I meant playing a flatter 4-4-2 which would allow us to better absorb the DC attack, clog the midfield as well as take more pressure off our back line and hit on the counter.

    Not the most glamorous formation or tactic but we need to do whatever it takes to win.
    Yeah I figured the flat 4-4-2 is what you were talking about, kind of like what we had when we played Cheyrou and Bradley along side each other in the middle. Personally I would still keep the diamond and put Osario at the top of the point and continue with Cheyrou at the base where he has been doing so well. If Warner is available I would bring him back on one side of the diamond.

    With all due respects to Yohan I do not agree with his formation since that does not suggest a diamond midfield which is what we have been playing. It would also suggest Giovinco is part of the midfield with Moore on his own up front. I think Giovinco is playing up front although he does drop deep a lot to receive the ball.
    if anything the formation is 4-1-2-1-2 but in reality that's just 4-4-2 at the end of the day.
    And it doesn't really matter what we call it as long as it's working ��

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    Quote Originally Posted by anto7 View Post

    With all due respects to Yohan I do not agree with his formation since that does not suggest a diamond midfield which is what we have been playing. It would also suggest Giovinco is part of the midfield with Moore on his own up front. I think Giovinco is playing up front although he does drop deep a lot to receive the ball.
    if anything the formation is 4-1-2-1-2 but in reality that's just 4-4-2 at the end of the day.
    And it doesn't really matter what we call it as long as it's working ��
    it's a hybrid formation because Giovinco and Bradley drops deep so often. because of this, I thought 4-1-3-1-1 explains better than 4-4-2 diamond.

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    Saw Giovinco strolling around Yorkville yesterday...he did not look happy about the weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yohan View Post
    it's a hybrid formation because Giovinco and Bradley drops deep so often. because of this, I thought 4-1-3-1-1 explains better than 4-4-2 diamond.
    Good point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yohan View Post
    it's not just being able to find Giovinco with passes. it's about attackers working in tandem with each other to pull away defenders to create channels for other players to exploit. passing is the easiest part. making smart runs and decisions is harder.

    Bradley is a threat because he works with Giovinco when making runs. plus he can dribble and make runs from deep centre midfield. Osorio has so far not shown he can do this on a consistent basis.

    btw, TFC is playing a modified 4-1-3-1-1. one day if I have the time, I'll have to explain more why this works
    You're right with Bradley. We will also miss Bradley's ability to counter with pace as well but as you say we're not playing a traditional diamond. I think we see one Saturday with Oso or Chapman higher up the pitch trying to play in between the lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Ummm......Movie reference



    seriously though, i don't expect much from this match. DC united have been in incredible form at home.
    the only positives i can see at the moment are when i take a look at their injury list:

    OUT: F Fabian Espindola
    OUT: F Luis Silva
    OUT: M Nick DeLeon
    OUT: M Michael Farfan

    that's a good chunk of their teams firepower. not to mention the fact that they barely grinded out a win against philly.
    if we get a draw, i'd be absolutely thrilled.

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