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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    The majority. Easily. I can find you many threads (including this one) where the majority of people speak out against Vanney.
    Ill reiterate that this forum hardly represents the majority of supporters.
    Youre entitled to your opinion tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    This thread, or even this board doesn't even represent the typical TFC supporter, or even the typical RPB.
    yep this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    This thread, or even this board doesn't even represent the typical TFC supporter, or even the typical RPB.
    No, fair enough. There are plenty of people who follow the team from a bit more of a distance and aren't vocal about changes made. But I bet you they all care about winning. Kreis = much, much better coach, and with the history/results to prove it. So hopefully we smarten up and go get this guy and finally put some skills and experience to work on our team.

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    This board when it comes to hot potato issues really represents the highly vocal minority. It can come done to really only a few people discussing things in circles. In reality RPB as a whole is a pretty small percentage of all those who buy TFC tickets but as we all know anyone here has an exetremly heightened interet in the team but in no way represents the majority of all all those who follow the team to any extent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bgnewf View Post
    how much worse could it have been to play Ashtone Morgan IN POSITION and Justin Morrow IN POSITION all season? Feel like the obvious was NEVER tried this past year.
    Bout time .....ya why would we want speed out wide constantly making crosses towards Gio...but Morrow displaced Morgan ....pity, I'd put him on the right
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    One of Morrow/Morgan should be traded.

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    You know, I want Kreis and all that ... but I am not sure it'll work unless we are moving the DPs.

    All these veteran Europeans, and USMNT players, they were brought in I believe because they'd make the DPs more "comfortable" than South Americans would.

    Kreis will not be interested in players like Findley/Moore/Gomez/Perquis/Kantari.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    You know, I want Kreis and all that ... but I am not sure it'll work unless we are moving the DPs.

    All these veteran Europeans, and USMNT players, they were brought in I believe because they'd make the DPs more "comfortable" than South Americans would.

    Kreis will not be interested in players like Findley/Moore/Gomez/Perquis/Kantari.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    You know, I want Kreis and all that ... but I am not sure it'll work unless we are moving the DPs.

    All these veteran Europeans, and USMNT players, they were brought in I believe because they'd make the DPs more "comfortable" than South Americans would.

    Kreis will not be interested in players like Findley/Moore/Gomez/Perquis/Kantari.
    I worry about this also. He might not be interested in the job, and it would take some doing to fix the mess we have on the roster, but at some point we have to stop aimlessly moving forward with rookies and try to seek the aid of someone who has actually built teams in the past and won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    Kreis will not be interested in players like Findley/Moore/Gomez/Perquis/Kantari.
    Good. All those guys are on terrible contracts.

    Man, MLS always finds a way to screw TFC. First they give us Mo, then they give us Bez.

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    How about firing Bez and replacing him with Kries? He would be a credible mentor to Vanney and I am sure every bit as able to recruit talent as Bez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamilton_Red View Post
    How about firing Bez and replacing him with Kries? He would be a credible mentor to Vanney and I am sure every bit as able to recruit talent as Bez.
    That's an very intriguing idea. I don't think Manning is interested at all in replacing Bez but this would be a super smart move.

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    That to me is like using Kreis in the wrong position. He's a brilliant coach. Why would we hire him and then use him as GM instead while allowing a far less capable coach to run the team? But sure, if that's the only option other than replacing Vanney then yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yohan View Post
    we don't have the players that can play Kreis's style
    How do you figure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Areathrasher View Post
    Manning must've moved FAST. Even if it's not true, this is shaping up to be a very interesting offseason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    The majority. Easily. I can find you many threads (including this one) where the majority of people speak out against Vanney.
    Never assume the internet expresses the opinion of the masses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamilton_Red View Post
    How about firing Bez and replacing him with Kries? He would be a credible mentor to Vanney and I am sure every bit as able to recruit talent as Bez.
    Bez doesn't need to go. He can be the capologist and contract guy, just like Lagerway was at RSL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mowe View Post
    Manning must've moved FAST. Even if it's not true, this is shaping up to be a very interesting offseason.
    Getting Kreis is a no-brainer. Vanney can be his assistant if Kreis wants and Vanney agrees to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    Bez doesn't need to go. He can be the capologist and contract guy, just like Lagerway was at RSL.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    Getting Kreis is a no-brainer. Vanney can be his assistant if Kreis wants and Vanney agrees to it.
    And, the MLSE special, have the new guys inherit their key employees, and pretend they think it was their idea, rears it's head.

    I could maybe, maybe see the case for Bez staying. Maybe. On principle, though, I'd rather find someone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    Bez doesn't need to go. He can be the capologist and contract guy, just like Lagerway was at RSL.
    Yeah, I agree. I do think that there is a danger of creating a top-heavy organization if we keep too many people on while bringing in replacements, but I think he's got a role at TFC that he does well and could be of further use to the club. Kries coming to TFC opens up so many possibilities.
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    I've started a new thread on the Kreis rumour, which is separate from what happens to Vanney (although the two can be related):

    http://forums.redpatchboys.ca/showth...05#post1771505
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    Getting Kreis is a no-brainer. Vanney can be his assistant if Kreis wants and Vanney agrees to it.
    ...or Vanney could run the academy like he did at RSL.

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    I wish Vanney would of had the interm tag on him. I was so shocked when Bez announced he wasn't interm but full on manager. I don't really want us to have to go through another GM hunt but if Bez can't close the deal in getting Kreis then he should be gone. He hired Vanney, didn't work out now move on, especially when a clear upgrade is looking for work.

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    Hmmm thats an interesting response

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    ^^ Throwing Vanney under the bus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Never assume the internet expresses the opinion of the masses.
    It expresses the opinion of the majority of people who state their views online. Do I think that's a number that's vastly different than the actual masses? No, I don't.

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    Yep, but doing it in a good way imho. Wouldn't want him to lie but also not to explicitly state he doesn't agree with the manager. He knows their is a better manager looking for work now..
    Last edited by pdubs; 11-03-2015 at 10:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    ^^ Throwing Vanney under the bus.
    So the captain doesn't seem to back or believe in Vanney? Not sure how else to take his comment.

 

 

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