Toronto FC fans confronted by City News reporter following vulgar on-camera remark

[JonO]

I am just throwing this out there, do we as a group, The RPB really want to get involved in this matter, it is so beyond anyone single thing as they are totally getting rightfully so ranked over the coils of public opinion. Everyone is chiming in on this as its gone viral on a global scale.. As much as these guys are being disrespectful, unkind and what not, distancing this from having anything to do with TFC something to think about.

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Jason deVos ‏@jasondevos 1m1 minute ago
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Good on @shaunacitynews for putting these idiots in their place. They should be banned from TFC games for life.

Didn't want to wade into this, but really, if we are going to ban people from TFC simply for being ass hats, it would be a pretty empty stadium. The best thing that could happen is exactly what Shauna did -call them out and make them look like fools.

[brad]

How does one ban someone for something that did not even happen in their facility? It reality this is not a MLSE matter, it is far beyond that, being a social awareness matter on whats acceptable in society.

It's a private facility. I'm pretty sure they have a fair amount of leeway on this.

A ban won't do much though. They won't be able to get seasons or buy tickets direct, but they will have no problem walking through the the gates with tickets purchased elsewhere.

[JonO]

Kurtis Larson ‏@KurtLarSUN 3m3 minutes ago City News now reporting police have reached out to reporter Shauna Hunt; Charges being considered against TFC fans

What are they going to charge them with? Clearly she didn't feel threatened. Can you be charged for being disrespectful?

[Fort York Redcoat]

Since this will be something that will (and should) be talked about for a couple days (and probably won't last or be remembered past it) I'll just add mine to list of those who think

These men acted like children and disgraced themselves. Like many men who've been wearing other shirts doing so.

The End.

[ryan]

The one with the shades has been named on Twitter, as well as where he works. This could get very ugly for him, very quickly.

As for charges, that could be perceived as sexual harassment, which would do the trick.

[Mulder]

What are they going to charge them with? Clearly she didn't feel threatened. Can you be charged for being disrespectful?

Kingston Police tweeted out this

https://twitter.com/kingstonpolice/s...75780379987968

[brad]

What are they going to charge them with? Clearly she didn't feel threatened. Can you be charged for being disrespectful?

Probably sexual harassment. Fits the bill on more than one criteria

http://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/sexual-and-gender-based-harassment-know-your-rights-brochure

[OgtheDim]

... They won't be able to get seasons or buy tickets direct, but they will have no problem walking through the the gates with tickets purchased elsewhere.

That's an interesting point. Given the amount of cameras MLSE has in that stadium, you would think a ban would be possible to maintain but who knows how effective they have been in the past.

[ryan]

That's an interesting point. Given the amount of cameras MLSE has in that stadium, you would think a ban would be possible to maintain but who knows how effective they have been in the past.

If they got caught in the stadium they could be charged with trespassing.

[JonO]

Kingston Police tweeted out this

https://twitter.com/kingstonpolice/s...75780379987968

Fantasitc. That applies to pretty much all of the supporters during a game...

[JonO]

Probably sexual harassment. Fits the bill on more than one criteria

http://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/sexual-and-...ights-brochure

I think they would have a tough time getting a conviction. Even so, though can you be charged with intent to commit sexual assault? Since she called them out before they actually did anything, what offence have they actually committed...

[Red CB Toronto]

The one with the shades has been named on Twitter, as well as where he works. This could get very ugly for him, very quickly.

As for charges, that could be perceived as sexual harassment, which would do the trick.

The thing is the guy in the shades was the least culpable of them all, she just confronted him and he even said he is sick of it by the end had walked off, before the Arsenal guy quipped in his stupidity, the guy who started it all as mentioned it above is long gone. Its unfortunate but I really do not like the idea of publishing names, work places, it has too much of a witch hunt feel to it. No charge here is going to stick. The actually issues of what is being discussed are far too important for these guys to have any of the attention.

[ryan]

I think they would have a tough time getting a conviction. Even so, though can you be charged with intent to commit sexual assault? Since she called them out before they actually did anything, what offence have they actually committed...

"You're lucky there's not a vibrator in your ear"

That'll do it.

[ryan]

The thing is the guy in the shades was the least culpable of them all, she just confronted him and he even said he is sick of it by the end had walked off, before the Arsenal guy quipped in his stupidity, the guy who started it all as mentioned it above is long gone. Its unfortunate but I really do not like the idea of publishing names, work places, it has too much of a witch hunt feel to it. No charge here is going to stick. The actually issues of what is being discussed are far too important for these guys to have any of the attention.

All you need to recognize is the one and he can help reel in the rest.

[GabrielHurl]

Well the guy who is being mentioned all over twitter at the minute deleted all his social media accounts last night

[Brooker]

This is getting a bit out of hand. Social media justice warriors scare me.

[Parkdale]

This is getting a bit out of hand. Social media justice warriors scare me.

very much so.

w2hile I have no sympathy for these guys, I don't think the call for them to be locked up in maximum security after chemical castration is really warranted.

social media:

[Red4ever]

This is getting a bit out of hand. Social media justice warriors scare me.

You and me both.

[JonO]

"You're lucky there's not a vibrator in your ear"

That'll do it.

Meh. He is referencing what people do elsewhere... Never said he would do it to her. We do have free speech still that allows people to say things we don't like.

[ryan]

Meh. He is referencing what people do elsewhere... Never said he would do it to her. We do have free speech still that allows people to say things we don't like.

Free speech doesn't mean speech without consequence.

[Phil]

The guys should have gotten out in front of this and just apologized, now its the viral blow up followed by the viral reaction.

Being drunk isn't an excuse and their words and actions are really rooted in some serious issues but an apology would go a long way to simmering this down.

[Mulder]

Meh. He is referencing what people do elsewhere... Never said he would do it to her. We do have free speech still that allows people to say things we don't like.

[Parkdale]

hmmm... sounds like MLSE wants to crack down on "vulgar" language.

Can't say it's not overdue. Let's just hope the Tic Tac chant on Wednesday doesn't become a victim, as we know that's all in good fun.

[ryan]

hmmm... sounds like MLSE wants to crack down on "vulgar" language.

Can't say it's not overdue. Let's just hope the Tic Tac chant on Wednesday doesn't become a victim, as we know that's all in good fun.

Vulgar language "towards reporters" is how it was initially reported.

We'll see this week what exactly that means.

[Jack]

The guy who originally said it into the mic is nowhere to be found?

[trane]

Didn't want to wade into this, but really, if we are going to ban people from TFC simply for being ass hats, it would be a pretty empty stadium. The best thing that could happen is exactly what Shauna did -call them out and make them look like fools.

I was about to say the same thing. She confronted them good on her. But that should be the end of it.

Charges????? Get out. Even the idea that the police would reach out to her to ask her about laying charges is highly irresponsible. That would be a charter challange for sure, and at that point there would be not doubt that it starts infringing on free speech.

And as for MLSE banning vulgar language from the stadium fuck them. Worry about getting a new coach.

[Jack]

And Phil is right, if they had just said "we didn't say it, sorry" then this would have been done. The fact that they went at her when she called them out for laughing is what is landing them in hot water.

[Davenport]

I bet that little Arsenal prick still lives at home with his Mom. If she sees the video she can show him how proud she is of him.....by giving him a good slap and teaching him how to behave when he's in public.

[JonO]

Free speech doesn't mean speech without consequence.

Sigh... if you'll read my posts I am referring to possible charges against these guys, which is more than a mere consequence. The have all the freedom to act like idiots and they are being judged accordingly (although like some I am concerned about the swiftness/ruthlessness of Internet justice). In the grand scheme of things, what these guys did is relatively minor and I think it is safe to say they won't consider doing it again.

[Red CB Toronto]

Vulgar language "towards reporters" is how it was initially reported.

We'll see this week what exactly that means.

It is an interesting thing, because the first guy who appears not be even with them, said .... and ran off. Shauna then see's these guys off camera standing off to the side and she turns the camera on them, having no idea what their actual involvement was. The one guy after humming and hollering, but really says nothing walks off, the other guys then chimes in with the second vulgar comment. As much as this is a big issue overall that needs discussion and absolutely having the right attention, that by calling out the other guys out and turning the camera on them, it was like they were being egged on for a reaction, which we all know will not be good. But none of this lets the first guy off the hook.