Updated: The Italians Are Coming. New TFC President coming

[Beach_Red]

I just leave this here for future:


"Italian coach blames quality of MLS players with TFC exit after less than a season..."

and around goes the coach carousel.

Is there a way to pin this on the top of every page of this thread...

[TFC07]

Holy shit Vanney drives me nuts sometimes, and I agree he should have been hired as a caretaker or temp from the start. But this would be messed up to the extreme.

Leiweke is leaving soon. He's already a lame duck in many aspects. MLSE is going to be hiring a new CEO and/or president. Who knows what comes after that in terms of organizational change. Unless they have one of very small number of sure-bet MLS coaches lined up, I wish MLSE/TFC and all the rest of us would chill the eff out. (Arena and Sigi Schmid only really come to mind for me. Petke doesn't rate high enough to risk a short-term change shortly before a new CEO/president comes on, and pulling the ejection seat based on a handful of road games.)

Some folks are worried about waiting too long and wasting 2015. I'm worried about wasting 2015, but also about wasting 2016 & 2017 as well. Be careful what you wish for.

And wrt. to some of the comments above, the list of failed international coaches in MLS is much longer than the list of successful international coaches. Might work for an organization & city with lots of patience to try things a different way. That's not the case for TFC & Toronto.

So who exactly is out there that can manage this team? I love to hear this MLS experience managers who have manage and be successful at it with DP's.

There isn't many of them out there, so you most likely (if you want to have experience manager) will come outside of MLS circle. People on here put too much stock on MLS experience or having American born manager because he knows the league instead of focusing on manager with knowledge on tactics and man management first.

[ronzilla]

Lippi has also won the WC in 2006.

[Richard]

Take these rumors with a huge grain of salt, as much as I want Harry Potter axed as I think he shouldn't be managing player personal decisions these guys would be a lot worse.

[sidvan]

Maybe it's for Malcolm's job. We need an Italian kitman.

[MartinUtd]

Di Canio. That is a scary thought, not in a good way.

Di Canio has unfinished business here. I'd love to see the look on Altidore's face when he hears the news.

[portu]

At the very least we'd get another 10 minutes "entertainment" at the end of every game http://youtu.be/HS9HxCjU9t0

[Super]

This is a tough one. I'm strongly against signing any coach without experience EVER AGAIN - unless said player has a past as a top player with Toronto FC, so that at least they intimately know the team, culture, city, etc. (like Kreis did with RSL). It's worth noting that RSL didn't make the play-offs in his first season as coach.

We need experience. Go try and steal one from one of the other MLS teams. Surely there's a way to buy one. We're spending $25 mil on the team, so a couple of mil might go a long way to getting a top MLS manager with experience.

[0bl1vious]

You're lucky. I'm on the ground floor. I'll have to take my chances by darting head long out into traffic.

Diving header at full pace into live traffic. I'm with you.

[portu]

Diving header at full pace into live traffic. I'm with you.

We should all just lie down on train tracks, all for one

[bigredone]

[__wowza]

made this for r/tfc, still relevant no?
fuck.. this was before vanney even got hired, i should update it.

[Richard]

made this for r/tfc, still relevant no?
fuck.. this was before vanney even got hired, i should update it.

Omg thats amazing.

[portu]

Just realized the one reason Gattuso won't get hired... Bradley would lose control of team tactics, Gattuso would never put up with Bradley's player-manager BS

[ag futbol]

The Giovinco rumors started from Italy and were initially denied by Toronto sources. And it then turned out while they were denying them Bez had already been in Italy and had dinner with Giovinco.

Why would Italian sources go out of there way to make up rumors about TFC?

Inclined to agree. Where there's smoke there's fire etc...

[dupont]

OH God. Firing the coach during the season AGAIN and before our first home game? If they do this, it will show that the higher ups at TFC haven't learned anything even after making the same mistake 8 times. They should have have either let Vanney go after last season or AFTER this season. Mid season coaching changes are the fucking worst.

[Super]

OH God. Firing the coach during the season AGAIN and before our first home game? If they do this, it will show that the higher ups at TFC haven't learned anything even after making the same mistake 8 times. They should have have either let Vanney go after last season or AFTER this season. Mid season coaching changes are the fucking worst.

It's only a disaster if you hire the wrong replacement - like we usually do. However, I'd be happy to make the move if it's for a manager with experience at a very high level. Lots of clubs replace managers during a season and manage to turn things around. One thing I do NOT want to see is us go 1-10 and still do nothing, effectively throwing the season away. NOTHING Vanney has shown us so far should give us confidence in him - and since he's a rookie, then honestly I think we should cut our losses and go hire experience. Enough with the rookies, please. We need more help than just some guy who wants to be a coach. I've been saying this since year one. My 2 main problems since I saw game 1 at BMO was: a) why did we hire a coach with ZERO experience, and b) where's the roof, and why does this stadium look nothing like a football stadium.

[trane]

Giovanni Trapattoni, Marcelo Lippi, Paolo di Canio, Ranieri all out of a job right now

Trapa and Lippi for me, Trapa in particular he knows how to do more with less, and defend, defend, defend.

[Areathrasher]

Trapa and Lippi for me, Trapa in particular he knows how to do more with less, and defend, defend, defend.

Like I said earlier in the thread. He wouldn't move to Ireland when he was our coach, why would he come here? Especially at his age.

[ronzilla]

Trap is too old and I don't like his style of play.

Lippi would be my #1 choice.

Look at his record:

Club

Juventus

• Serie A (5): 1995, 1997, 1998, 2002, 2003; Runners-up (1): 1996
• Coppa Italia (1): 1995; Runners-up (1): 2004
• Supercoppa Italiana (4): 1995, 1997, 2002, 2003;
• UEFA Cup: Runners-up (1) 1995
• UEFA Champions League (1): 1996; Runners-up (3): 1997, 1998, 2003
• European Supercup (1): 1996
• Intercontinental Cup (1): 1996

Guangzhou Evergrande

• Chinese Super League (3): 2012, 2013, 2014
• Chinese FA Cup (1): 2012
• AFC Champions League (1): 2013

International

Italy national football team

• FIFA World Cup (1): 2006

Individual

• Serie A Coach of the Year: 1997, 1998, 2003
• IFFHS The World's best National Coach: 2006
• IFFHS World's Best Club Coach: 1996, 1998
• Onze d'Or Coach of the Year: 1997
• Italian Football Hall of Fame: 2011
• Chinese Football Association Coach of the Year: 2013

[0bl1vious]

Lippi is retired.

[Canary10]

OH God. Firing the coach during the season AGAIN and before our first home game? If they do this, it will show that the higher ups at TFC haven't learned anything even after making the same mistake 8 times. They should have have either let Vanney go after last season or AFTER this season. Mid season coaching changes are the fucking worst.

Mid-season? I'd call it start of season at this point, no?

I can't believe we are in this groundhog day again (even though I do think it's necessary). Whatever we end up doing, it's almost 100% guaranteed to be wrong.

[TFC07]

I wonder who (Larry T or Leiweke) is behind decision of hiring Italians?


Remember that Bez and Vanney are Leiweke guys, but now that he's leaving, I wonder if MLSE just "cleaning" up his mess that he left.

[ANTZ]

We need Italian Defenders!!!!!!!

[portu]

Amoyal is going to be on TFC pitch side show in 50 minutes to talk Vanney out, now the question is what is TFC pitch side and how do I listen in

[pdubs]

John later went on to confirm the signing.

nice lol. hope he sees this haha

[Red4ever]

We need Italian Defenders!!!!!!!

We need good defenders or defenders that are well coached in a cohesive system.

i could give a shit where they're from

[Pint]

Amoyal is going to be on TFC pitch side show in 50 minutes to talk Vanney out, now the question is what is TFC pitch side and how do I listen in

A link will be tweeted out is the response i got from Amoyal

[Brooker]

We don't know what we're doing, we don't know what we're doing, we don't know what we're doing....

[mowe]

The Giovinco rumors started from Italy and were initially denied by Toronto sources. And it then turned out while they were denying them Bez had already been in Italy and had dinner with Giovinco.

Why would Italian sources go out of there way to make up rumors about TFC?

Gareth Wheeler was the first to report that TFC were pursuing Giovinco. It caught Molinaro/Larson and the other local guys completely off guard. And in Italy they immediately dismissed it. Then a few weeks later Di Marzio reported they already met, then Molinaro "confirmed" the signing.

This is clearly some Italian guys talking to the higher ups at MLSE (who knows how seriously), nothing really to do with Bez/TFC. And no way MLSE would've had anything remotely close to serious discussions about a new manager at this point.