Are we getting value for Bradley and Altidore?

[Cashcleaner]

Does it really matter how much any of them get paid?

They overpaid these players to come here for sure. But the cap hit is all we should be concerned with. Are all players DP level - Yes. Then who cares what their contract is beyond some pin the tail on the scapegoat game we all play.

The only thing that looks clear is the man in charge of the teams performance is not able to coach them to the potential they should be achieving. As well we don't have any experienced defensive depth, the kind needed to compete in this league.

Sure, talking about the cost of talent is a harmless thought exercise, but you said it yourself - ultimately what's the point here? MLSE has more than enough money to cover these salaries - and again, it should be noted that the cash we're spending on Altidore, Bradley, and Gio is just a drop in the bucket compared to the Leafs payroll. As for the specific question of "overpaying" players, let's at least acknowledge that by virtue of living in this great land called Not The USA, we're always going to have to pay a premium to attract player interest. That's a cost almost all Canadian teams have to contend with in pro sports.

[bigtfcfan]

I think Oso is a fantastic player, when playing centrally. Vanney doesn't seem to be able to find a way to make everyone play where they're supposed to and getting the most out of them.

Laba plays one role and that's the destroyer.. get the ball back and pass it off to someone else.. aka Morales who then creates offensive magic. Bradley plays a different game from him and his an overall better player IMO. PS. I love Laba and we need a player like him on this team because we don't have anyone to fill that specific role. At least not anyone that can do it as effectively as him.

These comparisons are pointless. If we put Laba on this team ahead we'd still have the same issues.. The reason is we still don't have a solid RB or our healthy CB pairing.

Why not focus on a bigger problem then Bradley and that's Osorio.. Where has he been this year and for most of last year? He's getting lots of minutes but he's invisible half the time. He doesn't standout defensively and he doesn't create offensive changes. All he's done is pass the ball around. We need more out of him.

[barticusz]

I think Oso is a fantastic player, when playing centrally. Vanney doesn't seem to be able to find a way to make everyone play where they're supposed to and getting the most out of them.

Out of curiousity, how do you rate a "fantastic player". What are the qualifications?

Just to go back a little bit you stated that Bradley "doesn't do anything useful." I'd love to know what it is that Osorio has done that has been more useful than Bradley since he's a fantastic player. Let's take a second and back this up with some stats since everyone on here has an opinion but that seems to be the end of the line.

Lets compare Bradley to Oso: Bradley has double the number of tackles per game compared to Oso, over 3 times the number of interceptions per game; more key passes per game; and Oso is dispossessed twice as often as Bradley per game; Bradley nearly doubles the number of passes per game over Oso, while Oso just beats him out on passing percentage by a meager 2%. http://www.whoscored.com/Teams/4186

But Oso is fantastic and Bradley is useless right? If a player like Laba was expected to be a CAM and a DM at the same time you'd all be calling for his head too, yet Bradley is underperforming here. We need the Oso's, Jackson's, the entire defense to step up their game. A single player cannot turn everything around for this team.

[DoubleUp]

Once again, bad football prevails.