And BEZ will lie about this like usual.
And BEZ will lie about this like usual.
Because he would have to come back to us before we transferred him. But he couldn't come back to us because we have 3 DPs and not enough space for a core player.Originally Posted by pdubs
So realistically 2 things happened if he did in fact go through waivers:
1. Vasco fucked us by cutting his loan off when we agreed for the full season so he could come back in the offseason when we don't have to fit under the cap
2. The core player rule being introduced without notice in the middle of the season (which Vanney and Bez openly complained about) fucked us otherwise we could have taken advantage of it
I couldn't care less about him going to Chicago personally but the fact that we got nothing for someone we paid a lot for sucks. Then again it's not my money and 3 million is absolute chump change to MLSE.
Woah woah woah wait if Gilberto goes on waivers doesn't that mean that he was on non-guaranteed contract?
I don't buy this because MLS makes rules on the fly. Case and point with the Montreal Impact signing Santiago Gonzalez via the Special Discovery rule which no one ever heard of except when it appeard in a MLS article on their website. Core DP introduced right around the whole LA and dos Santos thing with Omar on 1.2 million. My point is their rules do not seem black and white. Allocation and the such are just ways for teams to circumvent the cap.
If Vasco really blindsided us I would like to think MLS would do us a solid. Since we are one of the few teams going after top talent. Maybe Garber will float us the allocation money we would have gotten if this was a normal transfer. Until till more details come out we are just pulling at strings. Looks bad tho on management and the league.
I'm trying to give a turd about this and I just can't.
All the team spent on him was 1 year of cap space and some resources last season that didn't work out.
The 3 million seems lost based on MLS rules. If that's the way MLSE see it, we close this chapter and move on.
There's going to be a lot of what ifs and yeah buts about this one.
We don't know the reality of things.
We are a better team without him.
Moving on.
BTW, this confirms Drogba to the Impact, which is in the short term more of a pressing issue.
Cue the Bez rants.
It is the allocation we would have received from the sale "~500K" which is what hurts. Those golden dollars lol.
It's pretty poor management. We paid $3 million in transfer fees for Chicago. Let's pay Drogba's fees for Montreal while we're at it.
no rants...jus some more BEZ lies...cant wait to hear them.
I don't care. All this is talk of losing and gaining crap we don't see.
Gilberto off our books is the price for Giovinco.
That I know.
The rest is intrigue and in this league, you go nuts looking for straight answers.
I guess LEGALLY speaking MLS owns Gilberto and therefore can allocate Gilberto to Chicago in order to make up for Jones and Drogba, but that does not make it ETHICAL
^ Gilberto was an asset. It would've been nice to get SOMETHING for him.
Laba, now there was a bone headed move. No replacement until Cheyrou.
I liked Gilberto as much as the next person......but our team is better today without him then when he was here.
As for the waiver stuff, who knows. This league works in very funny ways. I get the feeling they worked this for Chicago since they had Drogba rights.
Most likely thing that happened:
- Vasco cancels loan ubruptly and goes back on TFC books.
- Bez can't do shit because he needs to be roster compliant.
- Has to waive him and eat the losses.
We probably will. Later on at some point MLS will do us a solid and folks in other MLS cities will cry favouritism.
This is is totally all about Jones and Drogba. MLS 'owed' the Fire and unfortunately we had to foot the bill.
This only makes sense if it was in reality the league who paid his transfer fee. It's known now that there's weird funds set up by the league to pay for players' transfer fees when they feel like it. Could be a case where the league paid the fee and we were paying his salary. That would explain why they would have to give him another MLS team rather than sell him.
maybe the league paid the original transfer fee..so maybe they have the say?
Gilberto wasn't an asset. He was a liability. He used a DP slot that we could better use.
He was released from his loan and became a liability again.
If we can't get a bag of balls to take him off our books, then we waive him.
I put this up there with Jeremy Hall to NER.
September 26th marks the return of the Gil
Live shot of Gilberto on his way to Chicago.
zzzzzz...the sound of the TFC beat reporters...
Serious waste of TAM. Fire didn't need a goal scorer. Need a whole new back line, and a new coach.
They all fell asleep
Theyve been pathetic lately
i really dont care about gilberto....but he will score a big goal v TFC.
Not a peep out of them when the Vasco letting Gilberto go stuff started.
Nothing when Dijon claimed we took their player.
Lens confirmed a signing by us and no journo looked at that report until Armin put something out.
Asleep tonight, as a group.
Weird
Fixed it
"STFU about transfers or we'll take away your access to the team".
He is no asset. This might be good business by TFC.
Forget the transfer, that is gone.
If TFC found someone to take a $1M/year obligation off their hands, for a player who has scored 7 goals in two years and brawled with his teammates, that is not bad.
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