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    So bell wants to kill off TFC for the CFL when clearly soccer is on the rise in North American and future revenues will be so much higher than the tiny CFL.

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    Final straw for me, I'm done.

    ML$E can go fuck themselves for all I care. No more TFC and no more Raps.

    Bones...

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    Quote Originally Posted by leafsman View Post
    So bell wants to kill off TFC for the CFL when clearly soccer is on the rise in North American and future revenues will be so much higher than the tiny CFL.
    You can't kill off what is making money.

    Now the Argos on the other hand....Now there's a loss leader. Better hope the 12K who come out to games drink a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    That would have been during the CCL run - yeah, riiiiiight. CSA will go where it can make money. That means games in Toronto.
    From what I understand it was Floro who discussed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    You can't kill off what is making money.

    Now the Argos on the other hand....Now there's a loss leader. Better hope the 12K who come out to games drink a lot.
    They want both. And what they really want are TV ratings - national TV ratings.

    It would be nice if Toronto teams were owned by someone only concerned about Toronto, but that's not what we've got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leafsman View Post
    So bell wants to kill off TFC for the CFL when clearly soccer is on the rise in North American and future revenues will be so much higher than the tiny CFL.
    They have their whitecaps sponsorship to fall back on

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    Quote Originally Posted by barticusz View Post
    Take a look at the schedule for Toyota Feild (FC Dallas) this year.

    http://www.fcdallas.com/stadium/events

    8 non soccer related events between March and July
    20 more events starting in August through to December 19 of which are High School football matches.

    All of this with FC Dallas home dates thrown in throughout. Does Dallas lose out on talented players because they dont' want to play a pitch that may have some football lines or divots here an there? Or do they resign their elite young talent to contract extensions?



    Great comparison .....since our weather from Sept-(potentially)Dec is exactly like Dallas, Texas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    http://argosadmirals.com/2015/03/24/...-on-the-pitch/

    This is the easy answer to all of the shit. Forget sharing the pitch. Invest in this and everyone is happy enough.

    And spread that ticket price increase to Argos fans first. Then us.
    Seems like a decent solution wonder how much storage space would be needed for turf and the system

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFC Cityboy View Post
    the minute I see pointy ball lines on that field, I'm done
    same here.

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    Fuck the argos .
    Last edited by Wagner; 05-19-2015 at 06:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFC Cityboy View Post
    the minute I see pointy ball lines on that field, I'm done
    same.

    or skid marks down the centre of the field
    Last edited by pdubs; 05-19-2015 at 05:31 PM.

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    Wow the comments from some of the Argos fans. I remember dealing with that kind of asinine commentary playing soccer in the US in the 70s & 80s. I thought that we were past that bullshit. Nope it's still there, and then we have guys come on here (like Mulder) that will happily chit-chat with such Neanderthals on the Argos forums.

    Boggles the mind, 6 million population in the GTA (w/o Hamilton), that we can't have a National Soccer Stadium, incl. TFC, and the Argos playing elsewhere in a decent facility. Unbelievable that the Argos, CFL, TSN and the rest of them weren't able to swing a deal as part of the Pan Am games, after also failing to take part in previous deals at York U & elsewhere.

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    I just wonder about the logic of signing players like Giovinco and Bradley for millions of $ and them having them play on a 2nd rate field.

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    The same 2nd rate field that is used by the biggest teams in the world???

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    I want to believe that the field will hold up.

    Yes Man U, Arsenal, etc use some re-inforced turf.

    But I watch a lot of NFL pointyball....and Wembley was a mess after 1 game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wagner View Post
    i want to believe that the field will hold up.

    Yes man u, arsenal, etc use some re-inforced turf.

    But i watch a lot of nfl pointyball....and wembley was a mess after 1 game.
    preach brother!!!!.... and it wont hold up

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    We don't like this arrangement but I wouldn't be surprised if the Argos also become unhappy with turf endzones and a grass playing field.

    This is really a made-in-Toronto solution. Rather than make a tough decision that actually have a trade off - we'll bastardized something in an awkward attempt to please everyone. It's just like building an airport shuttle that is too expensive to make sense for people to take because God forbid we upset taxi drivers or allow the GTAA to lose parking revenue??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wagner View Post
    I want to believe that the field will hold up.

    Yes Man U, Arsenal, etc use some re-inforced turf.

    But I watch a lot of NFL pointyball....and Wembley was a mess after 1 game.
    That England Slovenia game was the 5th game on the Wembley pitch in 6 weeks - 2 England games and 3 NFL games.

    What did the pitch look like during England vs San Marino after the first NFL game at Wembley last autumn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wagner View Post
    I want to believe that the field will hold up.

    Yes Man U, Arsenal, etc use some re-inforced turf.

    But I watch a lot of NFL pointyball....and Wembley was a mess after 1 game.
    And even though the pitch wasn't in the condition Hodgson and the England camp would like, England still easily won the game and the quality of the pitch had zero impact on the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wagner View Post
    But I watch a lot of NFL pointyball....and Wembley was a mess after 1 game.
    Wembley was a mess long before there was ever an NFL game played there. Was that the NFL's fault too?

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    Rollins linked this on Twitter. Has this kind of solution been looked into at all?

    http://argosadmirals.com/2015/03/24/...-on-the-pitch/

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Indications are it would be Friday night home games for TFC and Sunday games for Argos followed by a Saturday/Sunday home TFC game. Or Friday night Argo games and then no TFC home game until midweek/next weekend.

    The during the season scheduling can work. Whether the desso can handle it is the issue.

    If the desso works, including unnoticeable lines, the rest is noise.


    I remain concerned about the Grey Cup as that pretty much demands logos.
    Friday night games would be the end of me being a ssh. Just too much hassle coming from Woodstock. Shit, this truly is depressing.

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    With all the money that MLSE is going to make off of the Argos I'm sure that TFC season seat prices will be lowered as well as prices for food and drink in the stadium. NOT!


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    Well, that's that.

    I'd like to thank Tim Leiweke for allowing us about 8 days to rally around his battle cry that BMO was the "largest Soccer Specific Stadium in North America."

    I also wish Bob Hunter lots of luck in testing out steam cleaners to get the lines out.

    Perhaps the best news is that for this profit hungry ownership group, I look forward to future discussions surrounding the use of the stadium for:


    • football
    • cfl football
    • nfl football
    • rugby
    • equestrian
    • polo
    • off leash dog park
    • monster truck and demolition derbys
    • badger farming
    • public camping
    • Michigan landfill alternative
    • leasing open container vinegar storage facility
    • the "Free Range Grub and Cinch Bug Expo"


    … I am sure there are many other u$e$ that ML$E would consider. Best of luck.




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    Well, that's that.

    I'd like to thank Tim Leiweke for allowing us about 8 days to rally around his battle cry that BMO was the "largest Soccer Specific Stadium in North America."

    I also wish Bob Hunter lots of luck in testing out steam cleaners to get the lines out.

    Perhaps the best news is that for this profit hungry ownership group, I look forward to future discussions surrounding the use of the stadium for:


    • football
    • cfl football
    • nfl football
    • rugby
    • equestrian
    • polo
    • off leash dog park
    • monster truck and demolition derbys
    • badger farming
    • public camping
    • Michigan landfill alternative
    • leasing open container vinegar storage facility
    • the "Free Range Grub and Cinch Bug Expo"


    … I am sure there are many other u$e$ that ML$E would consider. Best of luck.




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    The lines will always be visible. You could tell where the lines were in New England. We'll always know its a shared stadium, from the inferior playing surface, to the ring of honour, to the giant Argos logo that will go up on the wall.


    I was actually interested when it seemed Rogers would opt out and it would be just Bell and Larry T footing the bill. But it appears the Argos will continue their long tradition of panhandling by essentially moving into another stadium where they wont be paying rent, or footing the bill to accommodate them.


    My main concern now is are we still getting a roof next year (or will that timeline be flipped because of the accomodations that have to be made), how is the playing surface going to hold up, and how long before they revert to a completely artificial surface. Also, the old exhibition surface wasn't flat, will BMO remain flat with the Argos, or will they crown it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red CB Toronto View Post
    My TFC support is for the 11 men on the pitch, they have nothing to do with the Argos coming, I will never turn my back on this team as I love going to the games too much.
    I like your desire... but be vary wary of the Argos coming in

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    Quote Originally Posted by leafsman View Post
    So bell wants to kill off TFC for the CFL when clearly soccer is on the rise in North American and future revenues will be so much higher than the tiny CFL.
    BINGO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GabrielHurl View Post
    The same 2nd rate field that is used by the biggest teams in the world???
    if you are referring to Arsenal, which NFL team plays its regular season games at The Emirates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ag futbol View Post
    We don't like this arrangement but I wouldn't be surprised if the Argos also become unhappy with turf endzones and a grass playing field.

    This is really a made-in-Toronto solution. Rather than make a tough decision that actually have a trade off - we'll bastardized something in an awkward attempt to please everyone. It's just like building an airport shuttle that is too expensive to make sense for people to take because God forbid we upset taxi drivers or allow the GTAA to lose parking revenue??
    Bingo.

    and it isn't like we weren't warned. We built a multi purpose stadium for the Argos before. How did that turn out?

 

 

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