You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Fort York Redcoat again.Originally Posted by Fort York Redcoat
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Fort York Redcoat again.
That's a very good question.
Perhaps making a conflict of interest complaint to the city's integrity commissioner (CCed to Grimes) might cause Grimes to calm down a little.
how to make a complaint:
http://www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/co...0071d60f89RCRD
How about an ex-CFL Commissioner as Mayor who has spoken publicly in favour of Argos moving into BMO...conflict of interest surely
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^Would it also be worthwhile to point out this conflict of interest to the City beat reporters? They're always looking for a good story that makes Council look bad.
100%
LOL
The Argo's foundation is a ex-charitable organization with very loose ties to the Toronto Argonauts, aimed at helping to prevent bullying in schools.
Good luck linking a conflict of interest complaint with that.
Because none of them know Tory was CFL Commissioner?
I believe your right as to how effective an official complaint might be.
That doesn't change how fixed the optics of this is.
Ex-charitable? Now its For Profit?
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
Tax status expired, it's been defunct since 2013.
Thanks.
Unfortunately, I doubt that this clears him from being bias on a ruling between the 2 parties involved.
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
Not legally. A city councillor on the Exhibition Place board who is negotiating with MLSE on behalf of the Argos, and threatening to override the terms of MLSE's contract with the city is a different matter though, if he has ties to the Argos - charitable or not.
If it's that loose, then probably not. Doesn't have to be successful though ... just has to intimidate Grimes.
Grimes, not Tory.
Well, if it's all in the past, no case. I've just been going by what others said.
Hmm, gone for a bit over a year by the looks of it:
SURRENDER OF CHARTER
Notice is hereby given that The Argos Foundation intends to apply to the Minister of Industry for leave to surrender its charter pursuant to subsection 32(1) of the Canada Corporations Act.
January 4, 2014
I wonder if there's any current official ties.
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The City as a whole instructed MLSE to negotiate a lease deal with the Argonauts. This is documented. There was a council meeting on this.
What is clear, is that the Rogers part of MLSE is sabotaging that deal, they have no interest in it (or an interest in killing it off), proof of this lies with the fact that Larry T and Bell may buy the Argos, without Rogers.
If Mark Grimes overrides the terms of MLSE's deal between the City, then MLSE can sue....if they can get board approval.
But what's the bias? Wouldn't voters want him to try and get as much use out of a city-owned facility as possible?
Oh this could get fun!If Mark Grimes overrides the terms of MLSE's deal between the City, then MLSE can sue....if they can get board approval.
And the more of this that goes on, the more I don't think anything is going to happen quickly.
Not this voter. Obviously.
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
I guess you didn't vote for Tory then ...
At the end of the day it makes common sense to have the Argos at BMO Field rather than building a new facility. Costs a lot less and will change the economic model for the Argos.
Remember The Man, The Legend, The Goal 5-12-07 and All That #9 Left On The Pitch, Thanks For The Memories !!!
I don't want to live in a world where common sense has anything to do with what I love. It is not a land of common sense when I walk the streets of London or Madrid and see that every neighbourhood has their football ground. It is not common sense to clutch at straws and think that moving the Argos back to the neighbourhood where I saw Dick Shatto play his last game is any solution to their plight. It is not common sense to think that the fools who have mismanaged the Argos (and the fools who have mismanaged TFC) are going to put their heads together and create the first stadium in the country that somehow manages intimate size for soccer, playing surface for soccer and wave a magic wand and put in a CFL field and team...
Why should we care about the Argos?
New to the thread CB?
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
For sure, it just makes sense to pursue the most economically path and this is it.
Remember The Man, The Legend, The Goal 5-12-07 and All That #9 Left On The Pitch, Thanks For The Memories !!!
Why is that? Because voters always vote for the person that will do exactly and everything that voter wants? Is that where you were going with that..?
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
And if you care about economics more than soccer, sure.
I don't care that it will be more work for the Argos to play somewhere else. It makes no sense to let them tear up the pitch we play on.
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
Its not a conflict of interest if he's not longer involved in that enterprise. Tory always declares a conflict when discussing Rogers, where he's still on the board.
On another note, I give local CFL reporters and trolls on the internet little to no credence on the Argos at BMO and the affect on the field. CFL supporters and reporters tend to be clueless about how soccer at this level can't use turf without there being an issue.
There seems to be an honest feeling within MLSE that Decco will work. Until we see it and experience it, we don't know.
John has resigned his seat n the Rogers Board of Directors.
Remember The Man, The Legend, The Goal 5-12-07 and All That #9 Left On The Pitch, Thanks For The Memories !!!
Desso grassmaster. And you're absolutely right.
It's been noted in a past thread that MLSE could've done this research themselves (they could be for all I know) up at Downsview where both sports are played.
If they wanted this venture to be transparent to supporters, that is.
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
Decco..........oh the last 5 years in this city left too big an imprint.
"Mayor" Tory still with Rogers.
"Tory also announced he has stepped down from the board of directors at Rogers, but will not leave the advisory committee of the Rogers Control Trust."
http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hal...op_rogers.html
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Thats the trust and not day to day decision making.
Remember The Man, The Legend, The Goal 5-12-07 and All That #9 Left On The Pitch, Thanks For The Memories !!!
Research into a similar situation? Easy-peasy. Tottenham Hotspur are about to build a new 60,000-plus stadium in London. News reports now emerging say - after many months of inside whispers - that this is where the NFL will house their London franchise when Shahid Khan shifts the Jacksonville Jags.
What are Spurs looking at to optimize playing conditions? Two completely different playing surfaces - grass and synthetic - along with designing a seating system that allows the front row of the NFL configuration to sit six feet off the ground to let fans see over Hulk Gronkhorski and pals. That and the fact that it will always be a Spurs-first stadium are re-assuring aspects of this project for Spurs fans.
If we had that sort of pitch management at BMO, there'd be no problem. On the bright side, we'll probably see it happen someday when Tanenbaum crosses the floor and sides with Rogers when it comes time to bring the NFL to Toronto. That will be some stadium.
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