As for those Ricky Foley tweets, all I can say is, "Yes, I would like some fries with that." And enjoy your CTE.
The weasel-worded email Tim Leiweke sent out today makes not one mention of the pitch.
"MLSE's commitment to delivering the best soccer experience for TFC and its fans is unmatched."
Give me a fucking break! Who else "delivers" a "soccer experience" if not the team owners? How could anyone match it, since they don't deliver it? Empty marketing sloganeering.
Tautology: a statement that is true by necessity or by virtue of its logical form.
I know this is nitpicking but the prominent use of the word soccer has been irritating today. Football is right in the team...
LOL @ Tim Leiweke especially in the end telling us to contact our ticket rep (I still don't know who's my ticket rep since last one left) if we have any questions.
Ti Cat fan and TFC supporter here.
Don't count TV numbers as nobody has any idea what % of people watch CFL Argo games because they are supporting the other team.
Fact - Argo SSH are nowhere near the 20K TFC has now.
Fact - Argo attendances are not 4-1 over TFC
Fact - Argos lose money operationally, TFC does not
Fact - Argo fans spend per seat is nowhere near TFC spend per seat
Soooooooooooooo......not much of what you said is actually correct.
I get you are here for a reason, but don't embarrass yourself with misinformation.
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Do we know if the distance between folks in the South end and the pitch will change because of the Argos? Or will retractable seating keep things the same for TFC games?
To the Tim L letter...
Wow, so much spin my computer is dizzy.
No mention of the Blue Jays evicting the old dble blue. No mention that Argos have never had to play a home date AND compete against a Blue Jays home date. That changes in 2016. Argos must compete against Jays for three months, if TFC gets first shot at schedule - Argos suffer. Bills will continue to draw Canadian fans...Argos suffer.
Does iconic = constant money losing even though your entire CFL team salary is less than Michael Bradley? Two CFL teams are still less than Kyle Lowry. I had to look back at the top to make sure the letter was addressed to TFC fans - Rejuvenate the Argos- what the hell has that got to do with TFC? Face it the oldest team in North America is the orphan team of Ontario. I have had a lifetime of watching soccer forced to take a back seat to other sports, sick of it. I would gladly trade Argos at BMO for a TFC Women's team at BMO. Spin Spin Spin....I am also sick of the media and the feeding of the notion that sports fans support all the teams. That just feeds money and viewers to the owners and helps create feeble bandwagon fans.
Anyone willing to be interviewed about concerns regarding Argos moving in?
Contact Morgan Campbell from The Star:
https://www.facebook.com/MorganPBCampbell?fref=ts
mcampbell@thestar.ca
He's looking for someone to interview and I didn't feel like taking it on.
Agreed. I think there is a lot of trolling going on around the net because of the chip on the shoulder of a lot of CFL fans from out West who really do believe the sunshines out of their league when the NHL is not playing. And there is little understanding of why grass is important to a good soccer product.
There is a lot of hope that BMO will be like Percival in Montreal. We'll see. Bell laid it out there today they are expecting a sell out for the opening Argo game in July 2016.
First game sell outs are easy.
Hard is 4 years later on a cold and wet late October Friday night. Who among the current Argo fans ares going to go down to BMO through the traffic and the transit after work to get to a 7 pm game? I have my doubts.
For sure. But that's likely been factored in. They don't need to sell-out every game. The home opener, the one playoff game they're practically guaranteed, the games against the Ti-Cats and that's probably enough.
The big thing is there will be at least ten years before there's any more talk of the NFL coming to Toronto so they might actually be able to sell some tickets to younger people.
You know Argos fans?
I honestly have never met one, minus my Dad, and he would never go to a game ever. I'm 41 and not some young kid and every single person I know from work, to friends, to the guys in my locals, to band mates and other bands; not one person who gives the Argos or CFL a second thought. I even have friends with Rock season tickets but know no one who even watches the Grey Cup.
Maybe my personal group of co-workers, friends, and acquaintances is out of touch but most of them are males who range in age from the early 20's to late 50's. All sports fans but not one who cares even a little about that league or the Argos.
Same here. Not one that I can remember. The only people I know that go to Argo's games are ex-Saskatchewan residents that go when the Riders are in town.
Also don't recall ever hearing a discussion about the Argos around the cooler at work or anywhere else. I hear this about every other team - even the Rock.
I think young adults in the GTA who are football fans will watch US College and NFL. The game day experience they seek is tailgate based so they travel to the US for a weekend...no matter how much NFL in Toronto is on a distant horizon....CFL is not going to turn young adult football fans away from US football...the CFL booted a few generations around here and nobody is bringing that back...
I support all teams.
How weird of me.
I do not give too much about this. What I give a shit about, is that we keep on losing. I would care if we played on a field with yard lines.
i've got no issue with the argos, but from everything i've heard and read about the team, having their own stadium would be in the best interest of the team, their fans, and pretty much everyone but ownership group. the issue is, i'm not even upset, i'm just disappointed. when the teams done nothing but disappoint since the lustre wore off, many folks here fell back on the notion that, at the end of the day, BMO could still be considered "ours". it's like how someone can lose their job and have their friends remark "well, at least you still have your health!".
BMO was like the little stadium that could.
now, it seems.. tainted.
i know that sounds melodramatic. i echo your positivity, i really do, i just don't want anything to happen to our pitch that could put our players at risk, and i don't wanna see anything done to the stadium that would impact how we support the team. unfortunately i don't see either of those two things panning out.
Rather than relying on friends, co-workers & relatives which has a degree of confidence of 5%, let's look at what a recent survey said:
University of Lethbridge researcher Reginald Bibby commissioned a survey to find which team had more public support. What he found, in a survey of 4,022 Canadians, was significantly more interest in the Canadian Football League -- across the country and in Toronto. In Ontario it was 21 per cent to 10 for the CFL while in Toronto it was 24 per cent for the CFL and only 7 per cent for the MLS.
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/eh-game/survey-shows-toronto-argonauts-have-public-on-their-side-in-bmo-stadium-issue-202051528.html