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    For me the main players on this team scream a 4-4-2 diamond considering we have no quality wingers however I would caution that for this to ultimately be successful we need better options than Oso and Jax. TFC still has a few players they need to bring in to be a contender.

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    Seeing how Klinsmann just used JA and MB in a 3-5-2, what about this?
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    Who says Morrow has to be so far back? Perhaps Vanney is planning on using defensive and offensive wingbacks on opposite sides?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Initial B View Post
    Seeing how Klinsmann just used JA and MB in a 3-5-2, what about this?
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    Who says Morrow has to be so far back? Perhaps Vanney is planning on using defensive and offensive wingbacks on opposite sides?
    Way too many players playing out of position there and just not enough quality to pull off the 3-5-2

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    I wonder if they'll be tempted to groom a new wrecker out of Creavalle/Thomas/Mannella/Hagglund/Simonin/Zavaleta/Delgado?

    All of those guys are defensive specialists, all of them are athletic and able to play the ball from their feet (except maybe Thomas), all of them might end up getting more time and being more useful if we used them as the holder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaz View Post
    Given our current pieces I'd slot Bradley up a bit.. and I'm using Warner because he is there, but any DM beside Bradley and let Bradley float up a bit.

    Osorio isn't really a winger and so he'd likely float in and Lovitz and Oduro are really interchangeable there.
    Given our pieces. We need wingers that can cross which is what we were missing last year.
    I think this is what we're going to see, except Jackson is likely going to start on the right because of his pace and strength. They'll work hard on his delivery, based on what Vanney said at the end of the season about our crossing being too target-oriented and not about putting the ball into dangerous places.

    And of course we have Perquis now.

    I'd be interested in seeing how either Delgado or Zavaleta did in that DM role, as both are noted for their ability to read and intercept. Delgado was best at RB for Chivas, and a lot of his clips are of effectively cutting off lanes, runs and passes. And Zavaleta was brought in for his ability to read the game, as well as having good aerial ability AND good feet from being a striker when younger.

    They're both young enough that developing them as specialists could really pay benefits.

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    Based on listening to Vanney today, come August, this is what we will be playing




    Apart from Warner, that's a strong first team squad.

    This is how I see the B team by then.



    A lot of those B squad players can play multiple positions, as can Osorio, so there is a lot of flexibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    I wonder if they'll be tempted to groom a new wrecker out of Creavalle/Thomas/Mannella/Hagglund/Simonin/Zavaleta/Delgado?

    All of those guys are defensive specialists, all of them are athletic and able to play the ball from their feet (except maybe Thomas), all of them might end up getting more time and being more useful if we used them as the holder.
    I would. Someone with some pace, vision (both ways) and decent passing/distribution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Based on listening to Vanney today, come August, this is what we will be playing




    Apart from Warner, that's a strong first team squad.

    This is how I see the B team by then.



    A lot of those B squad players can play multiple positions, as can Osorio, so there is a lot of flexibility.
    This makes the most sense. The only difference I have with the 2nd lineup is I see Delgado backup at right back and Creavalle in the middle.

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    Create your own lineup at football-formation.com

    Need a Winger still boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Based on listening to Vanney today, come August, this is what we will be playing




    Apart from Warner, that's a strong first team squad.

    This is how I see the B team by then.



    A lot of those B squad players can play multiple positions, as can Osorio, so there is a lot of flexibility.
    Put in Cheyrou for Warner and I think we have our formation. Not sure about Findley in a wide midfield position but we will have to see.

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    ------------------------Bendik------------------
    ------------Caldwell--Perquis--Zavaleta-----
    -----Jackson-----Cheyou----Bradley----Morrow
    -------------------------Giovinco----------------
    ---------------------Finley-----Altidore------

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    I really hope Vanney doesn't try three in the back.. We don't have the centre backs to play it. That requries CB that can pass the ball with confidence and able to have the ball at their feet. Maybe Perquis could play like that but Caldwell and Hagglund/or who ever doesn't inspire confidence when they have the ball at their feet

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    You just need one of the three CBs to be able to pass for it to work.

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    Need more depth in right wing/forward. Would be good to see Hamilton get some minutes there.

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    I see this being their "alternate" setup if they want to find Giovinco some space:

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    I think 4-3-1-2. and 4-4-2 are the best 2 formations.

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    I think a 4-4-1-1 would be a good alternative formation if Giovinco needs to roam more to find space. Something like:

    -----------------Altidore------------------
    -----------------Giovinco-----------------
    Lovitz---Cheyrou------Bradley--Delgado
    Morrow -- Perquis -- Caldwell -- Bloom
    ------------------Bendik------------------

    Or even a 3-5-2 could be possible with the midfielders that we have. Something like:

    -----------Findley----Altidore-------------
    ---------------Giovinco--------------------
    Morgan--------------Bradley-----Delgado
    ----------------Cheyrou-------------------
    ------Perquis--Caldwell--Zavaleta-------

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    I'm having a serious debate with myself whether I want to see Giovinco at CAM or at LW. He'll be more important and options at CAM, but generally MLS fullbacks aren't very good, so he'll win more 1v1 battles at LW and still cut inside to create offence. MLS teams are starting to put a lot of money at DM position
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yohan View Post
    I'm having a serious debate with myself whether I want to see Giovinco at CAM or at LW. He'll be more important and options at CAM, but generally MLS fullbacks aren't very good, so he'll win more 1v1 battles at LW and still cut inside to create offence. MLS teams are starting to put a lot of money at DM position
    WE could actually have him interchange with Osorio over the course of the match; would seriously screw with defenders to have two guys who can run at them crossing over, and when he switches inside to out, it'll draw central defenders wide and create space.


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    We could also go with an inverted 4-3-3


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    what do you think is the best formation
    for this team and who are your starting 11.
    I like a 3-4-3 with bradley and cheyrou side by side, perquis at cb. dike giovinco and altidore up front. I hope dike is healthy or we're stuck with jackson.

    Sorry it was written on my phine

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    LOL at any chance of a 3-4-3.
    On a more serious note I think it'll be a 4 (Morrow, Perquis, Caldwell, Bloom) - 2 (Cheyrou, Bradley) - 3 (Osorio, Giovinco, Jackson) - 1(Altidore) with Bendik in goal

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    if we play we 3-4-3 you can have my season tic

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    Quote Originally Posted by dutch View Post
    what do you think is the best formation
    for this team and who are your starting 11.
    I like a 3-4-3 with bradley and cheyrou side by side, perquis at cb. dike giovinco and altidore up front. I hope dike is healthy or we're stuck with jackson.

    Sorry it was written on my phine
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    Formation: 4-2-3-1

    Bloom Caldwell Perquis Morrow

    Bradley Cheyrou

    Findley Giovinco Osorio

    Altidore

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    It seems really weird to say this, but we seem to have quality subs in every position but one.

    LB


    Is there not anybody on this team but Morgan to trot out there in case Morrow goes down injured again, or needs a break?

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    I really hope this team plays well. I just played FIFA with the updated rosters, sans Perquis, and it was a nightmare.

    I know, sort of irrelevant lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hieberrr View Post
    I really hope this team plays well. I just played FIFA with the updated rosters, sans Perquis, and it was a nightmare.

    I know, sort of irrelevant lol.
    really? ive been playing with them online in seasons and have been wiping floors in div 3. i switched them to a 4-3-3 (holding) tho with gio on the wing and oso in the middle with cheyrou and bradley

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    I was going to ask if theres a place on the forum for EA FIFA. Im playing the updated roster and loving it. A depth in various positions. I think we're loaded for bear
    cheyrou and perquis are very underrated

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    really? ive been playing with them online in seasons and have been wiping floors in div 3. i switched them to a 4-3-3 (holding) tho with gio on the wing and oso in the middle with cheyrou and bradley
    I was in division 6, and started using TFC. I must say with the lineup I use below, I have been tearing it up and now I'm division 2.

    I play a 3-5-2:

    ------altidore-------gilberto
    Findlay------gio-------Moore
    ------Bradley------Cheyrou
    Morrow-Perquis-Creavelle

    High line, high pressure, high tempo

    With gilberto soon to be off the roster, I'll push gio to fw and insert oso in the cam.

    Relating this to real life now, I think we need to have Bradley, Cheyrou, Jozy, and Gio all in the middle of the field, with some wide players to stretch the field to create space for distribution and combinations between that key middle four.

    I have seen a lot of mentions of Oso playing out wide or in a LM/RM position, and quite frankly his game is not suited for wing play.

    All in all we need to have our best players in the spine of the field. Thats how all the best teams standout and most importantly win.

 

 

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