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    Great move.

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    660k for the defoe 11mil..but it depends on the jozy transfer fee..if we get him
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    Quote Originally Posted by andmat View Post
    What i mean is how much Allocation Money can we get from the 11mill?
    650k

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    Quote Originally Posted by andmat View Post
    What i mean is how much Allocation Money can we get from the 11mill?
    There's a maximum amount of allocation you can recieve on a transfer fee. 660k doesn't sound wrong.

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    So we should get about 660k from selling defoe? but we will never know cuz of Mls rules

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    Quote Originally Posted by molenshtain View Post
    There's a maximum amount of allocation you can recieve on a transfer fee. 660k doesn't sound wrong.
    and where does the rest of the money go?

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    I really expect the American fans to come out and support now. To join all the Brazilians coming out to see Gila, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defoe View Post
    and where does the rest of the money go?
    League takes some, and club takes the rest for "reinvestment".

    Between Defoe, Henry, Laba we should have 1.5Mil in allocation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fort York Redcoat View Post
    I really expect the American fans to come out and support now. To join all the Brazilians coming out to see Gila, of course.
    You joke but I know a few of the steel army (pittsburgh riverhounds supporters) are TFC fans now after the bradley signing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pint View Post
    League takes some, and club takes the rest for "reinvestment".

    Between Defoe, Henry, Laba we should have 1.5Mil in allocation...
    If the league doesn't add another DP slot, that might be enough to buy down Gilberto.

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    What formation would we play now? Seems like a logjam up front if we get Giovinco. Honestly I would much rather have a DP midfielder to complement Bradley or a DP CB (yes, I've heard that's a no-no but with the state our backline is in....) instead of Altidore. Gilberto and Giovinco would do fine on their own IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pint View Post
    You joke but I know a few of the steel army (pittsburgh riverhounds supporters) are TFC fans now after the bradley signing.
    That's great. It's also the number of influx I'd expect. I'm just venting from over expecting last year potential support. Don't mind me...
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    ^ Depending on players to bring support is not what we want. We want support to come from the product on the field.


    Their are lots of people that want to support a TFC that plays "good football".

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    Rollins has this wrinkle on things.

    " Technically a team in front of TFC could put a claim on him. However, CSN was also told that no MLS team was allowed to talk to Altidore other than TFC over the past week as this deal fell into place. "
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    whoever thinks Portland will give up Valeri for Altidore, you're nuts lol
    “Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.

    I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’

    And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamAM View Post
    What formation would we play now? Seems like a logjam up front if we get Giovinco. Honestly I would much rather have a DP midfielder to complement Bradley or a DP CB (yes, I've heard that's a no-no but with the state our backline is in....) instead of Altidore. Gilberto and Giovinco would do fine on their own IMO.
    4-1-2-1-2. We played it at the end of the year with Vanney and it puts each of our DP's in the best position to succeed. also means we don't have to add 2 wingers to our shopping list this off-season. Just a starting CDM, one and a half starting CB's and probably another MLS capable CM, along with whatever depth options they felt necessary.

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    For what it's worth...

    Duane Rollins@24thminute 37m37 minutes ago Was told that Altidore's people have only been allowed to talk to TFC. PDX and NYRB did not get access.

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    Is it possible that we do not get Altidore? That he goes to NY in the allocation? And if so, is that a bad thing, or would Tim L be a genius for getting our money back for Defoe and using it to buy a number 10?

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    im sure TFC talked to MLS about the transfer and all this allo stuff before they closed the deal...didnt they ..

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    Union beat reporter just chimed in with this:

    Kevin Kinkead @KevinKCBS3 · 5m 5 minutes ago

    Just to reiterate, I'm told Jozy Altidore will NOT be subject to the allocation process, same way Bradley and Dempsey rejoined the league



    Kevin Kinkead @KevinKCBS3 · 5m 5 minutes ago

    And I think whatever team goes in for Kljestan, be it NY, or LA, or even Philly, they likely WILL have to go through allocation to get him.


    Kevin Kinkead @KevinKCBS3 · 4m 4 minutes ago

    So we can pretty safely say the mystery "threshold" is set around $2.5m for returning U.S. international players

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    Have to admit, I'm stunned that Sunderland is willing to go £80K/wk for Defoe's wages. But, it's a pittance if it helps keep them in the Premier League. The main thing is the Defoe situation is resolved well before the end of the window.

    Let's see how the next steps fall in place, getting Giovinco would be mighty fine.

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    Altidore is coming here and that's done and dusted. As far as allocation is concerned it's simply a matter of whether MLS will actually let us sign a player, or if they'll insist we sacrifice some Garber bucks in order to get the right to sign him. Hopefully the former but not a big deal either if not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Union beat reporter just chimed in with this:

    Kevin Kinkead @KevinKCBS3 · 5m 5 minutes ago

    Just to reiterate, I'm told Jozy Altidore will NOT be subject to the allocation process, same way Bradley and Dempsey rejoined the league



    Kevin Kinkead @KevinKCBS3 · 5m 5 minutes ago

    And I think whatever team goes in for Kljestan, be it NY, or LA, or even Philly, they likely WILL have to go through allocation to get him.


    Kevin Kinkead @KevinKCBS3 · 4m 4 minutes ago

    So we can pretty safely say the mystery "threshold" is set around $2.5m for returning U.S. international players
    Holy shit, right after all the "we're back to the allocation order" song and dance that the league did with the Mix Diskerud signing. People are going to throw a fit.

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    I think this is one of those win wins. Defoe is a fantastic player and some of the personal shots he has taken are over the top.

    At the same time, it was a bad contract for TFC. Given age, injury and MLS' structure that doesn't allow for replacements.

    If Altidore comes, he's much younger and someone that you could include as part of a long term core.

    I wish Defoe all the best and welcome Altidore enthusiastically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
    I think this is one of those win wins. Defoe is a fantastic player and some of the personal shots he has taken are over the top.

    At the same time, it was a bad contract for TFC. Given age, injury and MLS' structure that doesn't allow for replacements.

    If Altidore comes, he's much younger and someone that you could include as part of a long term core.

    I wish Defoe all the best and welcome Altidore enthusiastically.
    agreed, can't hate on Defoe to much, at least he was willing to come over. I hope he helps Sunderland maintain their place in the EPL

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    So Vancouver called because they heard we had possibly 4 DP's.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by molenshtain View Post
    4-1-2-1-2. We played it at the end of the year with Vanney and it puts each of our DP's in the best position to succeed. also means we don't have to add 2 wingers to our shopping list this off-season. Just a starting CDM, one and a half starting CB's and probably another MLS capable CM, along with whatever depth options they felt necessary.

    Yes!.


    jozy-Gilberto
    ---giovinco
    Bradley--Osario/warner/upgrade
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    Creativity is solved with Gilberto and Giovinco in attack. The real question is the DM.

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    Don't hold your breath for Altidore in a TFC kit. He will likely be shipped away like so many before him, and we will plod on supporting the Mysterious Laughing Stock Enterprise, for years to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp View Post
    Yes!.


    jozy-Gilberto
    ---giovinco
    Bradley--Osario/warner/upgrade
    --------DM

    Creativity is solved with Gilberto and Giovinco in attack. The real question is the DM.
    yup. I think it's very likely we see an older "water carrier" type come in from Mexico or south America, like the Farre guy from a month ago or like the Pineda signing for seattle last year. This draft is deep as hell at CDM and I think it's very likely we spend one of our picks on a guy we can groom behind a 200-300k cost type veteran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69Chevy396 View Post
    Don't hold your breath for Altidore in a TFC kit. He will likely be shipped away like so many before him, and we will plod on supporting the Mysterious Laughing Stock Enterprise, for years to come.

    ahahah I haven't seen you post in a while so I can't tell if this is self-satirization. When things are going good I can always count on coming here and having you to try to prove to everyone that it's actually worse than ever. still good to have you around either way, looking at things from others' perspectives and everything.

 

 

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