Doneil Henry Appreciation Thread
Work permit application was successful, Henry is going to West Ham. Our first homegrown signing has been sold to a Premier League club (by way of Cyprus, but still, pretty cool).
One of my favourite players, bled TFC and Canada red. Hopefully he has a great career in Europe.
Onwards and upwards. Will remember that goal this season against Columbus for a LOOOONG time.
A role model for all Academy players to follow. A big thank you to Doneil for being a great team player, and best of luck to him in his future.
HUGE congratulations to Doneil. Absolutely amazing! We'll miss you at TFC, but super proud you're taking this step!
Definitely a watershed moment for our Academy.
I wish Doneil success with West Ham, and I hope he ultimately reaches his potential there.
Looking in his eyes that last home game when he came over to the south end, it was something he knew was happening.
All the best to him, such a great guy with a bright future ahead!
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He deserves this shot so much. Anyone remember how green he was when he first signed? Bled red. I'm now a partial West Ham fan.
All the best Doneil.
Hope to see you in action as we watch the matches played over-the-pond. . . .
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Man, I wish Henry the best of luck. The guy must be on Cloud 9 right now.
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Pretty bubbles in the air!!!
Doneil Henry completely deserves this opportunity and I really hope he furthers his career and becomes a leading CB. Always thought he was a great player, despite all the doubters.
I think he will be tough to replace on our roster though.
*tear*
do we get money for this trade? Or no cause we first trade him to cyprus?
I heard second-hand that Devos was reporting we got $1.5M out of the deal.Originally Posted by Supporting
http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/canad...e-to-west-ham/
Years have gone by and Ive finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: A pretty move, for the love of God.
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I dont give a damn which team or country performs it.
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Yeah but doesn't the Cyprus club that bought him get the transfer fee?
I'll be following him closely. He's got a great future.
Yeah that confused me. Was wondering why Vanney basically benched him when he took over down the stretch. However, it all made perfect sense when I heard about the sale-loan back.West Ham was clearly more interested in Henry than Toronto, which favoured rookie Nick Hagglund as captain Steven Caldwell’s partner in central defence as the MLS season wore on.
Happy for Doniel! Hope he realizes his potential!!
Nelsen being quoted at length ... and only Nelsen quoted.
This can only happen at TFC, where a major local kid gets sold to the EPL and the club can't/won't discuss it.
I wonder if the fact that the club has been essentially silent on this is because the club got hosed, and the Cypriots got a lot (or all) of the West Ham fee.
Last edited by ensco; 12-23-2014 at 11:58 AM.
"There are some people who might have better technique than me, and some may be fitter than me, but the main thing is tactics. With most players, tactics are missing. You can divide tactics into insight, trust, and daring." - Johan Cruyff
Best of luck to Doneil and his family. They must all be on cloud nine. All anyone can ask for in life is a shot. Good for him!
"There are some people who might have better technique than me, and some may be fitter than me, but the main thing is tactics. With most players, tactics are missing. You can divide tactics into insight, trust, and daring." - Johan Cruyff
TFC's media dept. is all on vacation this week. No need for conspiracy theories.
Who cares about the media department this week? It is not a conspiracy theory to find the club's handling of Henry's status to be deceptive and/or misleading all season.
"There are some people who might have better technique than me, and some may be fitter than me, but the main thing is tactics. With most players, tactics are missing. You can divide tactics into insight, trust, and daring." - Johan Cruyff
"As of today, Joao Plata is still a TFC player."
-Earl Cochrane
Meanwhile, on the same day......
Doesn't take a whole lot of effort to make a post on the official website vacation or not. Its not like they shouldn't already have a draft somewhere considering they expected the sale to go through.
Its funny, you would think that selling Henry to an EPL club would be front page banner news on the TFC website. "TFC academy graduate; Henry sold to 4th place English side West Ham"
I mean I can see why they never announced the Turkey deal, although hiding it from fans was wrong, it doesn't sound as good and we know it was to exploit a permit loophole which they didn't want to publicize.
This is just plain weird to me.
Last edited by Richard; 12-23-2014 at 03:40 PM.
All the best to the kid. What a huge opportunity and step up this is for him. To be exposed to a higher level of coaching, players, program, and everything that goes along with it.
Be great to see him seize the opportunity, be successful, and that translate to our Canadian team.
He set a goal and reached it. How can you not feel great for the guy!
Given this entire thing was engineered to get Henry to the Premier League, I really don't mind that TFC was secretive about his transfer to and loan back from Apollon. It would have been weirder for them to announce the transfer but not be able to mention it was part of a move to West Ham.
How do you know that? It's not the obvious conclusion.
The obvious conclusion is that Henry was moving end of 2014, but Bez pre-sold him (for a lot less than $1.5M I'll wager) to create allocation space last season. Which would mean they transferred allocation dollars forward, for a team that went nowhere, so there's no allocation dollars for 2015, and less dough (maybe a lot less dough?) than they would have had if they'd just done nothing, to boot.
Because there was a stupid playoff guarantee, and all that.
Impossible to know, but this whole cloak and dagger routine around Doneil makes one seriously wonder.
Last edited by ensco; 12-23-2014 at 09:25 PM.
"There are some people who might have better technique than me, and some may be fitter than me, but the main thing is tactics. With most players, tactics are missing. You can divide tactics into insight, trust, and daring." - Johan Cruyff
or... after the training stints he had last year, Aldardyce knew he wanted him but it would be difficult to get him. TFC worked with West Ham and Henry to make the move to Cyprus where the team receives a fee and allocation $$ while keeping a sell on %, TFC and Henry know that getting exceptional status will be difficult so the backup plan is engineered with Cyprus being the back door. Now being open about the move in the offseason may draw some red flags to the plan so they decide that keeping it secret would best for the player and team. Fast forward to now and Henry gets his work permit and will have a fee associated with him again and since we have a sell on clause we get $$ and allocation again essentially taking less actual $$ but equal or more allocation.
Now we are both just weaving stories but either could be true or a combination. We have a tendency to point to the most negative scenario all the time but maybe, just maybe our GM who also worked at the league and had a hand in the last CBA knew what he was doing in this case.
I don't see why TFC would have had any need to resolve any of this at the beginnng of 2014.
I wanted to believe in Bez but benefit of the doubt time is over, Bez has mishandled a bunch of stuff, the whole Laba thing, making the announcement about Defoe being in play but then not moving him, hiring Vanney without a process ... I mean, watch Bez being interviewed, he is just not that guy.
"There are some people who might have better technique than me, and some may be fitter than me, but the main thing is tactics. With most players, tactics are missing. You can divide tactics into insight, trust, and daring." - Johan Cruyff
I think it's fairly clear what happened. Henry trained with West Ham, they wanted him, and Henry wanted to go.
We did him a favor by selling him to a club in Cyprus so he could get a work permit to play in England, and also by getting him loaned back to us so he wouldn't be stuck in Cyprus for a year. We benefit by getting Henry for the year and by getting allocation dollars we couldn't get otherwise because he had to go through Cyprus to get to West Ham. Apollon benefits by getting a transfer fee. West Ham gets the player they wanted, and Henry gets his dream move.
It's a win-win-win-win.
Actual mismanagement of this situation would have seen us ship Henry off to Cyprus at the start of the season with no explanation, or worse, block the move entirely.
Last edited by notthesun; 12-24-2014 at 03:26 AM.
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