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    He better fuckin leave. It'll be a dreadful showing with him still here playing half assed footie, will wreck our season (not that we need help with that). First bump and he'll be on the IR with a sore gooch.

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    IF he stays then I hope he understands the importance of putting on a good show - otherwise he might not see any transfer in July to the Prem. He might be looking at lower league football.

    Personally I hope he comes back. I don't expect it to be for long, but he's a sure thing goal scorer, and I'd love to kick off 7 games on the road with Defoe on top. Then he can fuck off after ;p

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    Being reported in the UK now that Defoe has signed a massive deal with Sunderland worth £14m pounds.
    3 1/2 years at 80k a week

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    The "More to come" from Larson indicates that every reporter is now working their sources.


    The *** (UK types) are scumbags. Lets see if somebody with a bit more integrity comes in with something.

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    A friendly tip: when an article says "Report:" somewhere in the title or "according to reports" in the body that means they're just reposting someone else's story. Larson isn't actually reporting this is a done deal. He's just drawing more attention to the UK Sun story, he has no information to add.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    IF he stays then I hope he understands the importance of putting on a good show - otherwise he might not see any transfer in July to the Prem. He might be looking at lower league football.

    Personally I hope he comes back. I don't expect it to be for long, but he's a sure thing goal scorer, and I'd love to kick off 7 games on the road with Defoe on top. Then he can fuck off after ;p
    so glad you said that. If he came back, he'd actually perform because he would know he had to. Seattle was magic last year, would love to see more of that.

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    Wheeler saying done deal. Swap is in. With cash heading to Toronto apparently!

    http://www.tsn.ca/toronto-fc-complet...rland-1.181889

    also

    "negotiations to bring Juventus attacking midfielder/striker Sebastian Giovinco to TFC continue to advance."
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    Thrilled about his departure, not so sure about Altidore coming to us but perhaps playing with Bradley will make it worthwhile.

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    Hat tip to Ensco. Looks like we have to do a deal with the Impact

    Neil Davidson@NeilMDavidson 43s43 seconds agoLos Angeles, CA
    Another bloody big deal. Source confirms #TorontoFC has sold Jermain Defoe to Sunderland. Altidore to TFC has to go thru allocation route.

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    Give em Oduro.

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    Title update.

    Who can't wait to hear Defoe say what his time here was like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fort York Redcoat View Post
    Title update.

    Who can't wait to hear Defoe say what his time here was like?
    Ask his mom.

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    "Yeah, it was great in Toronto. Great City. Great people. Enjoyed my time there. But, when offered the chance to do something, to do something special here, in England, at a team with a great tradition, I thought it was a good thing."

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    "Yeah, it was great in Toronto. Great City. Great people. Enjoyed my time there. But, when offered the chance to do something, to do something special here, in England, at a team with a great tradition, I thought it was a good thing."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Areathrasher View Post
    Hat tip to Ensco. Looks like we have to do a deal with the Impact

    Neil Davidson@NeilMDavidson 43s43 seconds agoLos Angeles, CA
    Another bloody big deal. Source confirms #TorontoFC has sold Jermain Defoe to Sunderland. Altidore to TFC has to go thru allocation route.
    Appreciate that, although it seems I mostly got Defoe's value wrong. We won't really know until all the details leak out.

    Montreal are going to get PAID if in fact this does go through allocation.
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    Yup a bloody big done deal

    Sunderland and Toronto FC have agreed to a deal to swap strikers, with Jozy Altidore heading to the MLS club and Jermain Defoe returning to the Premier League, sources confirmed to ESPN FC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    Appreciate that, although it seems I mostly got Defoe's value wrong. We won't really know until all the details leak out.

    Montreal are going to get PAID if in fact this does go through allocation.
    I wouldn't be so sure, since, if they ask for anything crazy unreasonable, we could just pass on Altidore, altogether, looking elsewhere to fill the DP slot; I could take him or leave him, myself, and I wouldn't be shocked if the TFC FO feel in some respects similarly.

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    I forsee Altidore going to Montreal, if they want him, without TFC batting an eyelid. From a business perspective it makes the most sense. And TFC is a business first, football club third or fourth.
    Altidore doesn't sell lots of tickets, and hardly inspires a marketing campaign. I bet he's thrown into the deal 'cause TFC couldn't get their "valuation" for Defoe, so it's a way to save face when they told the whole world they'd not sell for less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmonyoureds View Post
    I forsee Altidore going to Montreal, if they want him, without TFC batting an eyelid. From a business perspective it makes the most sense. And TFC is a business first, football club third or fourth.
    Altidore doesn't sell lots of tickets, and hardly inspires a marketing campaign. I bet he's thrown into the deal 'cause TFC couldn't get their "valuation" for Defoe, so it's a way to save face when they told the whole world they'd not sell for less.
    Altidore won't come to a random club. That can't work for him. This has to be pre-arranged somehow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmonyoureds View Post
    I forsee Altidore going to Montreal, if they want him, without TFC batting an eyelid. From a business perspective it makes the most sense. And TFC is a business first, football club third or fourth.
    Altidore doesn't sell lots of tickets, and hardly inspires a marketing campaign. I bet he's thrown into the deal 'cause TFC couldn't get their "valuation" for Defoe, so it's a way to save face when they told the whole world they'd not sell for less.
    we supposedly recouped the entire transfer fee for Defoe, how would we not have met our valuation? we met our valuation literally on the dot, and then some with Altidore thrown in on the side.

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    The price for Altidore was Defoe. Montreal couldn't pay that price so they had to pass on their spot in the allocation order. So did the next team, and the next team... until it reached a team that could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    Altidore won't come to a random club. That can't work for him. This has to be pre-arranged somehow.
    Its funny, the league wants to avoid the Jermaine Jones fiasco that happened last year, yet its equally mickey mouse to put a process there and still have the player delivered to the chosen club.

    In the end this allocation process adhered to or not is a joke, its meaningless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by molenshtain View Post
    we supposedly recouped the entire transfer fee for Defoe, how would we not have met our valuation? we met our valuation literally on the dot, and then some with Altidore thrown in on the side.
    I'm speculating, yes. But even if we "met" the transfer fee, I still believe the rest of it until all the details are out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    Appreciate that, although it seems I mostly got Defoe's value wrong. We won't really know until all the details leak out.

    Montreal are going to get PAID if in fact this does go through allocation.
    Never ever underestimate the stupidity of premier league chairmen

    I'm just glad it's not going to drag out for the rest of the month!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    Its funny, the league wants to avoid the Jermaine Jones fiasco that happened last year, yet its equally mickey mouse to put a process there and still have the player delivered to the chosen club.

    In the end this allocation process adhered to or not is a joke, its meaningless.
    But this case is slightly different, as it involves a player-for-player trade between two teams. To me, this falls outside the allocation order. Isn't that the way it works between MLS clubs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Initial B View Post
    But this case is slightly different, as it involves a player-for-player trade between two teams. To me, this falls outside the allocation order. Isn't that the way it works between MLS clubs?
    Its a good point, but teams in the MLS don't sign any players, we just get the ability to have a club in the league. All players are owned by the MLS hence the allocation order having importance. Your point is a good one but utimately its lost due to the structure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Areathrasher View Post
    Never ever underestimate the stupidity of premier league chairmen

    I'm just glad it's not going to drag out for the rest of the month!
    If Defoe does what he always does, which is score on pretty much any chance, he'll be well worth the money. Altidore on the other hand, couldn't score if he was given 1,000 chances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canary10 View Post
    If Defoe does what he always does, which is score on pretty much any chance, he'll be well worth the money. Altidore on the other hand, couldn't score if he was given 1,000 chances.


    In all seriousness, I think he'll do fine in MLS. Not crazy happy excited about him coming here.

    Jeff Carlisle is having some interesting interactions with people on Twitter atm. Seeming to suggest the teams ahead of us in the allo order may pass.
    Jeff Carlisle@JeffreyCarlisle 3m3 minutes ago
    .@RescindedRed Not necessarily. Montreal could've (& likely) passed if they had no interest/couldn't afford Jozy & wanted to keep top spot.


    Weston John@WestonFL_John 3m3 minutes ago
    @JeffreyCarlisle Does that mean TFC traded with Montreal to be at top of allocation ranking or that the 5 teams ahead of Toronto passed?


    Jeff Carlisle@JeffreyCarlisle 3m3 minutes ago
    .@WestonFL_John My understanding is the latter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Areathrasher View Post


    In all seriousness, I think he'll do fine in MLS. Not crazy happy excited about him coming here.
    I'm hoping that by being over the top negative about it, he turns out to beat my incredibly low expectations.

 

 

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