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    ^Gilberto is as good as gone.

    Altidore
    Oso - Giovinco - Jackson (or replacement)
    Bradley - Creavalle
    Morrow - Perquis - Caldwell - Bloom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defoe View Post
    I agree with this 100 percent. How would that formation work though, do you mean like a 3-5-2 with 2 DM's? Or 2 DM'S in 4-4-2? Does anyone know if Findley can play wing? And what our thoughts on Osorio on wing. I have to say, if we end off the off-season with 1 more winger I consider the offseason a success everything considered.


    -----Altidore-Gilberto-------
    --------- Giovinco-----------
    Winger --------------Findley
    -----------Bradley-----------
    Morrow-Perquis-Caldwell-Creavalle
    hard to predict what formation Vanney will play. I think 4-4-2 diamond best masks TFC's lack of quality in wing right now. (I'm assuming Gilberto is sold)

    -----------Bendik
    Bloom-Caldwell-Perquis-Morrow
    ----------Creavalle
    -----Osorio-----Bradley
    ----------Giovinco
    ------Moore----Altidore

    With Altidore and Giovinco, I think there will be more emphasis on putting the ball on the ground and use Altidore as hold up and everyone else exploiting channels with Bradley and Giovinco as catalysts on offensive end. Most of the attack will go through the centre, but the fullbacks will be required to push up as much as possible to provide with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sully View Post
    hmm. "He is also the nephew of former MLS and U.S. national team defender and current Toronto FC head coach Greg Vanney"

    His agent is also Michael Bradley's agent.

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    lol Cassano is now a free agent, wonder if hes coming to MLS

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    Quote Originally Posted by PopePouri View Post
    Nepotism!!!!
    Only a problem if things go south, in my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milanista View Post
    lol Cassano is now a free agent, wonder if hes coming to MLS
    And somewhere in Montreal, a man puts on his rollerblades........

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    The great MLS agent Ron Waxman, who represents The General in addition to the newest Red, Eriq Zavaleta.

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    http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/articl...ls-2015-season

    It's ridiculous how much talent is coming into the league this year. You could literally field 2 power house teams

    #MLS.3.0

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    Gilberto may be going back to Brazil with Vasco. They hilariously listed his goal stats backwards, making him seem godlike.

    https://translate.googleusercontent....wHH6oU4HU5QU2Q

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    Imagine Joey S, Klopas and Adam Braz trying to control Cassano.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dantdot View Post
    Gilberto may be going back to Brazil with Vasco. They hilariously listed his goal stats backwards, making him seem godlike.

    https://translate.googleusercontent....wHH6oU4HU5QU2Q
    LOL, 21 goals in 7 games. Nobody tell them, let's see what transfer fee we can get!

    Being serious though, I can't imagine Gilberto would be up for a move back to Brazil. I think he'll end up in Mexico.

    Sign a wide midfielder now and I'm pretty happy with the squad heading into the season. We can evaluate after the first 5-6 games whether we need an upgrade at DM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notthesun View Post
    LOL, 21 goals in 7 games. Nobody tell them, let's see what transfer fee we can get!

    Being serious though, I can't imagine Gilberto would be up for a move back to Brazil. I think he'll end up in Mexico.
    Isn't the Brazil league as good or better then MX? Or is this about getting to Europe? I wonder if TFC is the one initiating his departure or if it's Gilberto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defoe View Post
    Isn't the Brazil league as good or better then MX? Or is this about getting to Europe? I wonder if TFC is the one initiating his departure or if it's Gilberto.
    It's the a Jan transfer window pushing this, because you have to understand to simply put it if any attempt to bring Giovinco in early , Gilberto has to be off the roster in the current environment.

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    This article says he is training with Vasco and could go on loan there http://www.netvasco.com.br/n/157751/...t%C3%ADcias%29

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    Quote Originally Posted by Areathrasher View Post
    This article says he is training with Vasco and could go on loan there http://www.netvasco.com.br/n/157751/...t%C3%ADcias%29
    I'll take your word for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flatpicker View Post
    I'll take your word for it.
    https://translate.google.com/transla...-text=&act=url

    quote from his agent saying he is interested in Vasco
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    Is Vasco code for Vancouver? Send Gilberto there for Laba!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Defoe View Post
    Isn't the Brazil league as good or better then MX? Or is this about getting to Europe? I wonder if TFC is the one initiating his departure or if it's Gilberto.
    Getting to Europe. MLS to Mexico may be a bit of a sideways move, but if his goal is to get into a decent European team I suspect he will not want to return to Brazil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Areathrasher View Post
    https://translate.google.com/transla...-text=&act=url

    quote from his agent saying he is interested in Vasco
    Didn't he plaY for Vasco before TFC ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuelphStorm2007 View Post
    Didn't he plaY for Vasco before TFC ?
    2009–2011 Santa Cruz 31 (14)
    2010 Vera Cruz (loan) 18 (7)
    2011–2013 Internacional 39 (5)
    2012 Sport (loan) 25 (7)
    2013 Portuguesa (loan) 24 (14)
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    Not according to Wiki

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuelphStorm2007 View Post
    Didn't he plaY for Vasco before TFC ?
    Nope. Portugesea, Internacional, Sport Recife.

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    We`re doing it again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp View Post
    We`re doing it again.

    I wouldn't be so sure. Could be a loan.

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    If he moves to Europe my guess is France what w/ vanney's connections.

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    I truly hope we find a way to keep Gilberto. Something tells me letting him go will be a major mistake. Our overall attack will be much weaker without him. We need two top forwards AND a quality attacking mid to compensate for the fact that we are weaker down the wings(baring more signings). If Gilberto leaves, we will be down to one top forward and Giovinco will have to be played as more of a withdrawn forward, not the creative force in the center that we need. This could put a lot more pressure on Altidore and Giovinco to carry the team without that extra top striker. Without Gilberto or a talented replacement (non DP) our core of forwards leaves me a bit nervous. Dike is coming off of 2 major injuries, Moore blows hot and cold, Findlay may or may not work out and Hamilton is raw.

    If we rely primarily on Giovinco and Altidore I think the question needs to be asked, how many goals will each one need to contribute to make the play-offs? How many goals will the other players need to contribute to reach our points total to make the playoffs?

    With two top forwards and a distinct AM, the goal scoring load will be much easier if shared. If not, I think Altidore will have to score 15-22 goals and Giovinco 10 plus.

    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burning Red View Post
    I truly hope we find a way to keep Gilberto. Something tells me letting him go will be a major mistake. Our overall attack will be much weaker without him. We need two top forwards AND a quality attacking mid to compensate for the fact that we are weaker down the wings(baring more signings). If Gilberto leaves, we will be down to one top forward and Giovinco will have to be played as more of a withdrawn forward, not the creative force in the center that we need. This could put a lot more pressure on Altidore and Giovinco to carry the team without that extra top striker. Without Gilberto or a talented replacement (non DP) our core of forwards leaves me a bit nervous. Dike is coming off of 2 major injuries, Moore blows hot and cold, Findlay may or may not work out and Hamilton is raw.

    If we rely primarily on Giovinco and Altidore I think the question needs to be asked, how many goals will each one need to contribute to make the play-offs? How many goals will the other players need to contribute to reach our points total to make the playoffs?

    With two top forwards and a distinct AM, the goal scoring load will be much easier if shared. If not, I think Altidore will have to score 15-22 goals and Giovinco 10 plus.

    Thoughts?
    the fact that TFC is negotiating a new contract with Luke Moore seems to indicate Moore will play a bigger role with TFC this season
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    There has got to be some way of creative accounting they can use to keep Gilberto here. I am sure there is.

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    The thing I liked about Gilberto was he was a good playmaker he did have a few assists on some of Defoe's goals. That is one thing I will miss

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuelphStorm2007 View Post
    There has got to be some way of creative accounting they can use to keep Gilberto here. I am sure there is.
    The impression I get is that they don't seem to care, I think he is good as gone regardless if its possible to keep him or not.

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    I don't get it. This has echoes of the love for Tie Domi/Darcy Tucker years ago. People are overrating that NY free kick incident, and his "hustle", in their overall evaluation of the guy. Gilberto was paid to produce, and didn't produce enough, for $1.2M. That is a lot of money in MLS, these other signings have made us numb to that.

    He scuffed a ton of chances. As a pure soccer decision, moving Gilberto is defensible.

    I can also see the case for keeping him, this wasn't a clear cut call, but I can't really argue that he deserved another chance either. For what he made, that was a pretty iffy year last year.

    I share the fear that he might do a lot better elsewhere.
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