I'm in 100% unless they raise ticket prices by more than a few percent, maybe I can 'officially' have tix in 112 this time around, I will actually probably add a 4th ticket because I so often need a 4th and although they are easy enough to come by, it is nice to know that you are good to go.
WE DID IT!
"They are gonna need a crazy PR plan to get people back. I'm totally renewing though"
"I'm totally in unless they raise them too high. Actually I'm going to add seats"
"I'm renewing for sure! Complaint, complaint, complaint."
"I'm renewing and I'm probably not even going to use em! Muwahahah!"
Not trying to be a dick or nothing, just the logical process of the addicted sports fan mind is something I find....amusing.
For the record, I'll be back, merely cause I usually piss away more money on dumber things....and live sport aint so bad, losing or losing badly. Plus I can scream the word cunt at people without getting in trouble. It's just so fucking fun to yell out loud.
Amen, on all counts.Originally Posted by kodiakTFC
Have you seen any of my mock ups, from recently (even made one with a nod to RPB; found in ".::The Badge::." & "New Crew logo" threads)?
The big issue for me is what happens to our seats at the top of 110. I've heard some people say they've been told they won't be affected, others say there'll be a concourse running through what's now our row. There's a good bunch of fans where we are, a lot of whom have been there since day one, and if we get split up or dispersed, it'll completely degrade the game day experience for me. My buddies and I are inclined to renew, but the combo of bad team + losing our seats may be a killer.
same could have been said with Ryan Nelsen in 2015 or Aron Winter in 2013 etc...
The only thing I would change in the logo would be the stupid dash, it really ruins what would be a great crest for me.
If we were a good team, would we really be able to fill a 30,000 seat stadium without giving a buttload away for free? I just can't see it.
Fan-bloody-tastic. Can he come back next season with a pair of balls and some enthusiasm atleast?John Molinaro @JohnMolinaro
Vanney says he's had talks with Bez and that he expects to be coach at start of 2015 season. #TFC
I think so. We were a good team at the beginning of the season. BMO was full and rocking for at least a few games. They would have been able to sell 30,000 for several games this year.
Exactly. Jason Kreis is being used far too often as justification for hiring inexperienced candidates.
It's pretty clear most guys hired can't obtain that level of performance.
Neither Nelsen nor Winter were coming out of the most recent iteration of MLS.
Better comparisons would be Jay Heaps in New England, Caleb Porter in Portland, Mike Petke in New York, Dominic Kinnear in Houston, Carl Robinson in Vancouver, Ben Olsen in D.C. and Gregg Berhalter in Columbus. All former MLS players.
In fact, almost every MLS coach is a former MLS player. Why are we always so insistent on going outside?
There are many more examples recently of former MLS players succeeding as coaches than there are of bringing in guys from outside.
I'd also note the ones who struggle most are those from MLS 1.0, like Mark Watson, Kinnear and Frank Klopas, all guys who know the league but haven't adapted to the changes.
Now how much more of a problem is someone with no league familiarity going to have, or someone who spent years in the premiership before coming here?
The one thing we haven't tried that others have, with success recently, is bringing in an MLS 2.0 former player. It's working in New York, New England, Vancouver, D.C. and Columbus.
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An interesting question - especially considering that SSH's are priced artificially low right now. And when we are a good team (if we ever are) those price reductions are going to get rolled back in a hurry.
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You know what they should do? Put out a letter from Leiweke or Bez to all STHs, announcing a new policy going forward, where they vow never to increase season ticket prices after seasons in which the team doesn't make the post-season.
You'll thank me in 2047, when TFC is still charging 2014 prices.
Heroism breaks its heart, and idealism its back, on the intransigence of the credulous and the mediocre, manipulated by the cynical and the corrupt. ~Christopher Hitchens
You win post of the day"They are gonna need a crazy PR plan to get people back. I'm totally renewing though"
"I'm totally in unless they raise them too high. Actually I'm going to add seats"
"I'm renewing for sure! Complaint, complaint, complaint."
"I'm renewing and I'm probably not even going to use em! Muwahahah!"
Not trying to be a dick or nothing, just the logical process of the addicted sports fan mind is something I find....amusing.
For the record, I'll be back, merely cause I usually piss away more money on dumber things....and live sport aint so bad, losing or losing badly. Plus I can scream the word cunt at people without getting in trouble. It's just so fucking fun to yell out loud.
When talking to one if the reps they were telling me they were thinking about doing the whole renewal thing in January again so it may be some time before anything gets communicated to us if they are going with that. It would work for them on a psychological level because it will give time for the people that are pissed off to maybe cool down a bit and maybe the withdrawal of live footy may work for others to get them to give it another go instead of doing a knee jerk reaction to the season and not making the playoffs. It would also give them time to sort out the relocation of the east stand. Yup, I bet we don't hear anything until January in terms of concrete plans. Let's them sort Defoe situation too I guess.
That and bring in a DP of some sort to start some buzz.
Given we don't have home games until May, no need to hurry.
So renewals in January?
Mistake IMO. That would presumably be done based on a name DP replacing Defoe and/or a name coach.
Which would mean we are once again chasing names and not needs.
Sad if that happens. Some teams try to get better in the offseason. Our priority seems to be try to sell tickets.
Agree about the wait but let's not pretend teams in general can't get better and sell tix doing it. We just seem to struggle with it.
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
I have the exact same concerns, my seats are in row 33 of 110. I guess we will just have to wait and see when the renewals/seat relocation comes up.
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Sure they can.
But if they actually delay renewals to hype a ticket selling window, what are the odds that they will sign players we need if they are "unknowns"?
Before we knew of them, imagine a "Plata, Urutti, Laba" offseason compared to Defoe? One improves the team. The other improves ticket sales.
We may need a midfielder. The best available might be an unknown. A big name might be available though. Maybe lost a step but a name everyone would recognize.
Which do they opt for if they make the step to delay renewals?
If they're smart they'll sell loyalty, they'll sell the mea culpa and take attention away from the players we will sign. Brand name or not. This should be a love in. They don't have any credibility in scouting or soccer IQ right now, fair or not.
The one thing they are in a position to do is say is:
"We're sorry and we will make it up to you. It wasn't as easy as we made it out to be, but it shouldn't be as hard as we've made it, and for that we apologize. We are going to sign good players, not flashy players but ones that work within our system. Now here is some free shit that doesn't hurt our bottom line that you would appreciate. We know you still love this team. Are we cool?" *extends hand*
But if Bez passes the buck, I'll have to think about what I do with some of the tickets I have.
to be fair, defoe didnt lose a step. hes always injury prone. Its his attitude that is so damning.
Nothing. I'm renewing, no hesitation. TFC and RPB forever. THe good times will come soon enough.
Funny, that sounds exactly like what Anslemi did, year after year. It might work on the folks that bought into the Bloody Big Deal this year and jumped on the bandwagon, but of those that have been around the block before - it would be the same old song and dance.
Personally, I stopped believing anything the club tell me a few years back. Put up or shut up is the approach I take with what the club says.
Fair and you're not wrong.
I guess I just never believed Anselmi for a second so I don't feel as duped. Lieweke was the first person associated with the club whom I ever took seriously.
Imagine the announced attendance's this year. Imagine them not moving all year since this dream didn't guarantee Plata's coming out or Urruti syncing the way he did early with his new team. I know you believe we would've been better off and I agree in the long term but I doubt the difference wouldve there in the season record.
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
"I'll be buying season tickets this offseason, write it down"***
*best Tim L imitation voice*
Probably not, but sounds good doesn't it Bogers?
nice man. But totally this.If we were a good team, would we really be able to fill a 30,000 seat stadium without giving a buttload away for free? I just can't see it.
Fan-bloody-tastic. Can he come back next season with a pair of balls and some enthusiasm atleast?
whatever ones gripes about Nelsen, let's remember we were in third place when he was fired. And now the history is being written by many that we were not good enough etc etc. if we were not good enough, his record starts to look very good. And if you ignore what he said in interviews and look at results, it's decent. Not outstanding, but decent. I think more and more that the decision to let him go was a mistake.
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^ We were third, but trending downward - you have to take that into account. Nelsen's record in his final ten matches was 3 Wins, 4 Loses, and 3 Draws. And when we lost, we last bad. Like 4-1 for SKC, 0-3 for DC, and 0-3 for New England.
Obviously we'll never know one way or another how this season may have played out if Nelsen stayed, but if you could put yourself in Lieweke's shoes at the time (Late August) how many more games would you have given him?
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Hahahhahhahhah. I am sorry man. But I really laughed at this. As I said I plan to get seasons again for next year, but this is a step too far. I believe they truly tried this year. But " soon enough" was 3-5 years ago.
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