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    Default TFC has a 90% chance of making the playoffs?

    So says an article on MLSsoccer.com.

    http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/articl...hree-months-go

    One thing of note, it says we have the second easiest schedule in the league in our final 14 games.
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    Yeah playoffs are looking pretty secure right now, but I'm more concerned about holding on to a top 3 spot. Best to avoid the play-in game if possible.

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    Easiest schedule means nothing if those teams start coming on.


    The back to back against Philly is going to be critical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Easiest schedule means nothing if those teams start coming on.


    The back to back against Philly is going to be critical.
    Yeah, and they've been playing better lately. A win this weekend would help a lot too. Put a little distance between us and Columbus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Detroit_TFC View Post

    That website broke my brain.

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    I'm not criticizing however, I'm not content on just the play-offs........tired of moderate goals. At least we better kick ass even if we lose , then fine, BUT, if we get out thought or destroyed then I will not say 'oh well at least we made the play-offs'.........I need a strong and competitive effort . Simply an all-out effort by everyone including fielding our best starters . And there is so much parity in the league we can never take any team for granted or we are done for. It's all out from here on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzy View Post
    if I'm not criticizing however, I'm not content on just the play-offs........tired of moderate goals. At least we better kick ass even if we lose , then fine BUT if we get out thought or destroyed then I will not be 'oh well at least we made the play-offs'.........I need a strong and competitive effort . Simply an all-out effort by everyone including fielding our best starters . And there is so much parity in the league we can never take any team for granted or we are done for. It's all out from here on .

    Exactly, and we HAVE to finish ahead of Vancouver in the standings to get into 2015 CCL.

    To me CCL is the pinnacle and we should be playing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzy View Post
    I'm not criticizing however, I'm not content on just the play-offs........tired of moderate goals. At least we better kick ass even if we lose , then fine, BUT, if we get out thought or destroyed then I will not say 'oh well at least we made the play-offs'.........I need a strong and competitive effort . Simply an all-out effort by everyone including fielding our best starters . And there is so much parity in the league we can never take any team for granted or we are done for. It's all out from here on.
    Glad you said it.

    I got frustrated with Bez's comments last week in that the Montreal game wasn't a must win because they were sitting 3rd in a conference that is weaker than the west.

    My competitive bones were rattling over that one.

    I do have to admit a bias here in that as a Leaf fan, I have grown extremely tired of "MLSE speak." Of course that expresses itself as "competing for a playoff spot."

    Playoffs in soccer are stupid but it's what we have. To aim to be in the top 50% is just a little better than CFL teams that shoot for finishing in the top 66.7%. It's not an accomplishment though I know it has been elusive since our existence as a franchise. It's kind of an accomplishment but it's like your kid not failing in school. I am glad you didn't fail but really come on, the bar isn't just passing is it?

    That said, not qualifying for the playoffs again… with this payroll… is inexcusable.

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    Well, that s a huge jinx
    “Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonso View Post
    Exactly, and we HAVE to finish ahead of Vancouver in the standings to get into 2015 CCL.

    To me CCL is the pinnacle and we should be playing it.
    How is the Canadian champion determined? Is it the team with the most points after the regular season or the best team after the playoffs ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lennon View Post
    How is the Canadian champion determined? Is it the team with the most points after the regular season or the best team after the playoffs ?
    The only thing I saw was the team finishing the regular season the most points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lennon View Post
    How is the Canadian champion determined? Is it the team with the most points after the regular season or the best team after the playoffs ?
    Quote Originally Posted by CommradePolski View Post
    The only thing I saw was the team finishing the regular season the most points.

    Yeah that's right, the Canadian team that finishes with the most points during the MLS season goes to CCL.

    NO playoffs.

    I'm not sure what the tie breakers are.

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    50 points gives us a 100% at making the playoffs? That's more than doable imo

    I'd like to see us make the Eastern Conference Final this year though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonso View Post
    Yeah that's right, the Canadian team that finishes with the most points during the MLS season goes to CCL.

    NO playoffs.

    I'm not sure what the tie breakers are.
    Are they doing away with the Canadian Championships next year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yohan View Post
    Well, that s a huge jinx
    I was thinking that too. Even posting it seems like a jinx. Everyone knock on wood please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
    Glad you said it.

    I got frustrated with Bez's comments last week in that the Montreal game wasn't a must win because they were sitting 3rd in a conference that is weaker than the west.

    My competitive bones were rattling over that one.

    I do have to admit a bias here in that as a Leaf fan, I have grown extremely tired of "MLSE speak." Of course that expresses itself as "competing for a playoff spot."

    Playoffs in soccer are stupid but it's what we have. To aim to be in the top 50% is just a little better than CFL teams that shoot for finishing in the top 66.7%. It's not an accomplishment though I know it has been elusive since our existence as a franchise. It's kind of an accomplishment but it's like your kid not failing in school. I am glad you didn't fail but really come on, the bar isn't just passing is it?

    That said, not qualifying for the playoffs again… with this payroll… is inexcusable.
    Stop with the broken record please. You keep making this point over and over ad nauseum. Let the people decide for themselves if they are happy with playoffs instead of telling everyone over and over and over that your viewpoint is superior.

    Personally I am happy with playoffs because that is the first step towards winning the MLS Cup. I am not so delusional as some seem to be to think that our team could change from bottom-feeder to top-flight in one off-season (Kreis took 3 years with RSL).
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    ^ I think what's naive is the criticism of stated goals. They are so limited its ridiculous.

    Win everything.
    Win a title.
    make the playoffs.
    contention for playoffs.

    These are the options. To bitch about the stated objective more than comparing it to the reality of what's been executed already is a waste of high blood pressure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonso View Post
    That website broke my brain.
    The most interesting thing there is the "Chance Will Make Playoffs" graph mid way on the page. Click full screen, the graph shows the impact of each game result on the playoff chances. Show which games were huge for us, for good or bad.

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    right now with the form we've seen I'd say it is 50/50. If we pull off 7-12 points by the end of August (ie 36-41pts by Labour Day) then I'll say sure 90% chance. (that would only be 1.5-1.71 ppg)

    Every point under 7 drops our chances by 10% IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Are they doing away with the Canadian Championships next year?
    The winner of the Canadian Championship this year plays in the CCL starting Aug 2014.

    The team with the most MLS points in 2014 will compete in CCL Aug 2015.

    The winner of the Canadian Championship in 2015 plays in the CCL Aug 2016.

    And then, from then on the Canadian Champion in any given year will play the CCL tournament the following season.

    Leading point getter in MLS is a one off thing so that they could move the tournament from early spring into later in the year, and also so that they could make it as long as they like. (more flexibility needed especially with more teams joining the tournament into the future)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonso View Post
    The winner of the Canadian Championship this year plays in the CCL starting Aug 2014.

    The team with the most MLS points in 2014 will compete in CCL Aug 2015.

    The winner of the Canadian Championship in 2015 plays in the CCL Aug 2016.

    And then, from then on the Canadian Champion in any given year will play the CCL tournament the following season.

    Leading point getter in MLS is a one off thing so that they could move the tournament from early spring into later in the year, and also so that they could make it as long as they like. (more flexibility needed especially with more teams joining the tournament into the future)
    Thanks for the explanation, I must've missed that somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonso View Post
    Exactly, and we HAVE to finish ahead of Vancouver in the standings to get into 2015 CCL.

    To me CCL is the pinnacle and we should be playing it.
    shit didn't realize that............cheese Louise
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    I like the fact that 8 wins out of 14 almost assures us of top 3. That's the data I took from the site.

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    If we don't, it's all your fault, Canary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooker View Post
    If we don't, it's all your fault, Canary.
    Shit, I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mowe View Post
    I'm more concerned about holding on to a top 3 spot
    Playoffs and finished ahead of Shitecaps!

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    Yeah, this CCL wrinkle adds a new dimension to things.

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    Isn't that like 900% better then usual at this time of the season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trane View Post
    Isn't that like 900% better then usual at this time of the season?

    Yep, I think its been 5 years since TFC could entertain any playoff discussion past the midway point of a season. Refreshing to be able to have discussions and debates about the in flight season rather than looking ahead to off-season rebuilds.

 

 

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