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What if Oliva Chow is Mayor of Toronto? (based on polls, it's quite possible she become one) Would it have any impact on Argos moving to BMO field? We all know David Miller doesn't support Argos moving to BMO field, so I wonder a follow NDPer hold same views? I know a lot of Chow volunteers are promoting Chow at soccer events (TFC games and World Cup viewing like Eaton Centre) lately.
I think it's inevitable that the Argos are coming to BMO at some point.
They need a place to play, and BMO is the easiest solution. The Argos have proven time and time again they will not put their own money towards a new stadium, and the government won't build them one.
We have to change the conversation from "no Argos at BMO" to ensure that renovations improve the gameday experience for TFC.
If you look at the pictures from the women's US/Canada game at Winnipeg, its evident how huge the CFL stadium footprint is. We also experienced it first hand when TFC played a couple times in the Dome.
If the retractable seats promised by TL don't come through, the supporters are going to be way too far from the field.
Also, are they proposing a second deck, or an entire new east stand? If so, the pitch of the seats and sightlines could be a concern, and the number of rows. What if some of us in the new east stand find ourselves relocated to the upper deck? Will the price-point change in a renovated stadium? Will they change the designation of supporters sections in 110/111?
It's easy to criticize the Argos and their lack of fan support. But the (reported) crowd of 18,000 for the opener would have almost filled BMO. A move would surely bump up demand enough to fill it. Their crowds are likely no different than what TFC would draw if we were stuck playing in the Dome.
I don't know about that since there's no interest out there to buy Argos. CFL wants Argos move to BMO field, but yet they can't come up with $10 million to get them there. How cheap are these guys? If you can't invest $10 million into most "important" market that attracts sponsors for your league, then face the music and fold the team already. These guys are killing Argos with their cheapness and bad decisions. You're seeing Argos attendance dropping yearly and apathy that's kicking into Toronto market when comes to Argos/CFL.
If you ever watch a Whitecaps game, they have retractable seats. The first 10 rows of Kop seating retracts for CFL games and is pull out for Whitecaps games. It covers most of the CFL endzone and sits on a grey pad to protect the field turf. I'm assuming the Argos will have fieldturf endzones so you and pull the seats out.
The site lines suck at the Skydome, thats why everyone stays home at watches it for free on TV rather and that why Argos want to move.
Argos don't want to move they are being kicked out of Rogers Center.
Last edited by jazzy; 07-07-2014 at 07:37 PM.
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They want to move way more than the Jays want grass. Skydome is a dump and they have been trying to move out for more than 10 years. Their preferred location was Varsity stadium, but the university pulled out at 24th hour. CSA were the argos partner for the Varsity Stadium. Then they looked at York and the exhibition grounds. Argos bitter at the Varsity deal eventually took rent free deal for their fair weather fans from the Blue Jays, and CSA moved on. After that, then MLSE got an MLS expansion team and partnered with city for a bare-bones stadium at the CNE.
Varsity would have been a way better location and way better stadium than BMO and in the end, both TFC and Argos lost something. Hopefully, the new BMO will be awesome as TL says so the fans will be protected from the elements. Because fans have been pounded by the weather at that location for 75 years.
The documents I posted on page 9 highlight the plan boys.
Phase 1 - 8,000 new seats
Phase 2 - roof
Phase 3 - Argos
Phase 1 and 2 don't depend on 3 but the language around 3 is pretty clear. Argos need a home and it is cheaper to do phase 3 than build a new stadium. Public funds or alternative funds are being sought to make phase 3 happen.
I definitely think Coulter is right about her audience - the number of Republicans or Conservatives that would self-identify with the statement "I love soccer and I watch a lot of the World Cup" is small.
Soccer is really a city thing in North America. Rural areas aren't into it, by and large, for them the summer sport is baseball, period.
I wonder if Japan and Australia have the same urban/rural split on soccer.
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Dont think so in Japan (i can really only speak about Korea and they play baseball and soccer equally in city/country), as for Australia id imagine that Aussie Rules is prob more popular in the country etc etc
Yet another red flag for the BMO renos
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/07/07...stadium-delays
The new Tim Hortons field has been delayed and the team had to move their July games to McMaster.
I recall the Winnipeg stadium opening a year behind schedule as well, and I think the BC Place reno was a season too late.
Though the BMO renos are being done in stages, adding 8,000 seats and a new concourse is fairly significant, and there is only a 6 month window. I think we could be looking at a couple games in the Dome.
Montreal did the same expansion (adding a second deck onto pre-existing stands) for Molson stadium they are looking at for east stands for BMO. It took 9 months.
Anybody worried about the timeline? Last game is Oct 25th. November, December, January, February ... you get the idea. Where are they going to play March, April, May June? What if its a bad winter?
and if we are in the playoffs, then they can't even start in November.
I have seen in Europe where stadiums are under-construction even while they are playing in the stadium (well I mean they aren't working during a game, but will be working during the days there is no game.)
CFL Commisioner just mentioned on Argos v Ottawa broadcast on TSN2 that CFL/Argos still talking with MLSE about moving to BMO.
Dom.
Oh. Hahahahaha.... I guess I can say with honesty I don't really follow the Argos.
Sorry for the old news.
Dom.