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    Hmm....Seattle ranking based on Dempsey scoring a goal. Gotta keep the hype going as LONG as possible.

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    Never ceases to amaze me how inconsistent their methodology is. Seattle spends big 6 months ago and do fuck all with it, get a high rating. Philly spends money, has a decent start and they're rated highly. TFC spends big, wins, but no, we better take past failures into account.

    I know its only week two, but the preconceived notions are well on display and they're all over the fucking place.

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    These rankings should not be looked at in terms of where your team is at. The ONLY useful info to take from them is the change from one week to the next. We are on the rise but we've only won one game. We've done that before. Let's win a few before we get all excited.

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    ^^ Hopefully they'll recognize us as the real deal after we whip DC.

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    What MLS said before the opening week "We're not all aboard the bandwagon just yet. Michael Bradley still needs a partner in central midfield." Osorio ends up setting up a great pass for Defoe. That's one way to shut them up.

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    I can't say I saw enough of other teams to pretend to know exactly where we should be ranked, however given that we went into Seattle and came away with full points, how exactly can we be so far behind them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinUtd View Post
    Never ceases to amaze me how inconsistent their methodology is. Seattle spends big 6 months ago and do fuck all with it, get a high rating. Philly spends money, has a decent start and they're rated highly. TFC spends big, wins, but no, we better take past failures into account.

    I know its only week two, but the preconceived notions are well on display and they're all over the fucking place.
    Last yr TFC finished the power rankings in what? 17th? After 1 game we are up to 11th. All the analyists are saying is that Toronto has been here before, and the ranking reflects that Toronto has not fully turned a corner and thus dont have an unprecidented ranking, its only one game.

    Seattle is ranked too high, they lost that game against Toronto moreso then Toronto won.

    Philly has given up 1 goal over 2 games, and seem to have the tools to score goals, so shoring up the defence is a great sign, as the goals are sure to come. I dont have a problem with the second place team in the east being ranked 4th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunkers View Post
    Last yr TFC finished the power rankings in what? 17th? After 1 game we are up to 11th. All the analyists are saying is that Toronto has been here before, and the ranking reflects that Toronto has not fully turned a corner and thus dont have an unprecidented ranking, its only one game.

    Seattle is ranked too high, they lost that game against Toronto moreso then Toronto won.

    Philly has given up 1 goal over 2 games, and seem to have the tools to score goals, so shoring up the defence is a great sign, as the goals are sure to come. I dont have a problem with the second place team in the east being ranked 4th.
    All I'm saying is they're inconsistent with their assessment. Montreal and Seattle had very similar ends to 2013 and neither team made any large additions in the off-season. Yet Montreal starts in the basement but Seattle is up there with LA, KC and RSL. Basically it is all 100% bullshit dressed as analysis. That Doyle guy needs to work harder.

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    I don't put much stock in the Power Rankings until after week 4. After 1/10th of the season you have a somewhat acceptable sample size to work with.

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    Here's another take: the best ranking systems require the selectors to put their money where their mouth is. Average betting odds now have TFC ranked 6th (tied with Houston and Real Salt Lake). Tellingly, TFC's odds are down this week to 12/1 from a high last week of 18/1 (year high was 20/1 in January).

    Average betting odds for MLS Outright Winner in decimal format (from Odds Portal):

    1) Los Angeles 7.00
    2) Portland 9.00
    2) New York 9.00
    2) Kansas City 9.00
    5) Seattle 11.00
    6) Toronto 13.00
    6) Houston 13.00
    6) Real Salt Lake 13.00
    9) Vancouver 18.00
    9) San Jose 18.00
    11) Dallas 36.00
    11) Columbus 36.00
    13) Colorado 41.00
    14) New England 51.00
    14) Chicago 51.00
    16) Philadelphia 67.00
    16) Chivas 67.00
    18) Montreal 81.00
    19) DC United 101.00

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    http://www.oregonlive.com/timbers/in...ek_2_dyna.html

    Portland Oregonian's rankings are quite different from others, more like the oddsmakers'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    http://www.oregonlive.com/timbers/in...ek_2_dyna.html

    Portland Oregonian's rankings are quite different from others, more like the oddsmakers'.
    Wow, tough on the home team. They have Portland ranked much lower than the other ranking methods: 14th as opposed to 5th and tied for 2nd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinUtd View Post
    All I'm saying is they're inconsistent with their assessment. Montreal and Seattle had very similar ends to 2013 and neither team made any large additions in the off-season. Yet Montreal starts in the basement but Seattle is up there with LA, KC and RSL. Basically it is all 100% bullshit dressed as analysis. That Doyle guy needs to work harder.
    ummmm....pappa, marshal, cooper and Frie are in and rolases is off to chivas. Basically no change at all.....
    http://www.soundersfc.com/news/artic...nsas-city.aspx

    and Montreal was considered old last yr, and did nothing at all, and got a year older.
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    Power rankings are for entertainment purposes only. I'm a willing consumer but they really shouldn't be taken that seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunkers View Post
    ummmm....pappa, marshal, cooper and Frie are in and rolases is off to chivas. Basically no change at all.....
    http://www.soundersfc.com/news/artic...nsas-city.aspx

    and Montreal was considered old last yr, and did nothing at all, and got a year older.
    Frei remains unproven since his injury, he's at best a sideways step. Same for Cooper and EJ, Marshal/Hurtado and so what's left? Pappa, the guy who coughed up the second goal? I'd rather have Mauro Rosales. So yeah, no upgrades, just a game of musical chairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PopePouri View Post
    Wow! We're number 1! Have we ever in our history been ranked by anyone at number one?

    And the bookies like us too! After this weekend, the odds have us at number 2 at 7/1 (tied with LA) and just behind Kansas City at 6/1.
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    Post #74 is full of shit. Power Rankings are VERY IMPORTANT, especially when Jeff Carlisle ranks TFC #1.


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    Plata is RSL best player so far? What's we get for him again? A bag of balls?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commie Red View Post
    Here's another take: the best ranking systems require the selectors to put their money where their mouth is. Average betting odds now have TFC ranked 6th (tied with Houston and Real Salt Lake). Tellingly, TFC's odds are down this week to 12/1 from a high last week of 18/1 (year high was 20/1 in January).

    Average betting odds for MLS Outright Winner in decimal format (from Odds Portal):

    1) Los Angeles 7.00
    2) Portland 9.00
    2) New York 9.00
    2) Kansas City 9.00
    5) Seattle 11.00
    6) Toronto 13.00
    6) Houston 13.00
    6) Real Salt Lake 13.00
    9) Vancouver 18.00
    9) San Jose 18.00
    11) Dallas 36.00
    11) Columbus 36.00
    13) Colorado 41.00
    14) New England 51.00
    14) Chicago 51.00
    16) Philadelphia 67.00
    16) Chivas 67.00
    18) Montreal 81.00
    19) DC United 101.00
    Is that cup winner or supporters shield winner?

    If the former, DC is probably worth a few bucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abou Sky View Post
    Is that cup winner or supporters shield winner?

    If the former, DC is probably worth a few bucks.
    It is for cup winner. So, yeah, there's plenty of value to be had here particularly if you want to bet now and lay them off later. I'm not sure about D.C., but I think Chivas at 81.00 and Philadelphia at 67.00 and Columbus at 36.00 are great buys. If you got Toronto at 19.00 just as Defoe rumors became ripe, like I did, you could lay them off on an exchange now at approx 9.0 and be sitting pretty for the rest of the season with a guaranteed profit. Unfortunately, Betfair hasn't opened this market yet.

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    http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/articl...-fc-dallas-top

    ** * **

    7th seems about right, to me; where I saw us being placed, actually, following our win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuliquE View Post
    http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/articl...-fc-dallas-top

    ** * **

    7th seems about right, to me; where I saw us being placed, actually, following our win.
    I like how Dallas jumps 12 places to no. 1 after beating Chivas as home.

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    I do not take too much stock in the Power Rankings to be honest All I want is TFC To get better each game make the playoffs win the CCL have decent run in both and get some respect from the North American and Canadian Soccer media and Sports Media

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    The only power ranking that really matters to me is the league table.
    Toronto FC baby...best team everrrrrrrrrr -Jozy

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    1. FC Dallas (12)
    2. Houston Dynamo (1)
    3. Sporting Kansas City (3)
    4. Real Salt Lake (2)
    5. Columbus Crew (8)
    6. Seattle Sounders (6)
    7. Toronto FC (11)
    8. Philadelphia Union (4)
    9. New York Red Bulls (9)
    10. L.A. Galaxy (7)
    11. Colorado Rapids (14)
    12. Vancouver Whitecaps (10)
    13. San Jose Earthquakes (12)
    14. Portland Timbers (5)
    15. Chicago Fire (16)
    16. Chivas USA (15)
    17. New England Revolution (17)
    18. Montreal Impact (18)
    19. D.C. United (19)

    If we can win away to RSL this weekend I don't see how anyone could avoid having us in 1st by week 4.
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    http://www.soccerbyives.net/2014/03/...s-week-20.html

    Ives also ranks TFC at 1

    I'm scared
    “Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.

    I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’

    And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”

    -Eduardo Galeano

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    The only power ranking that really matters to me is the league table.
    I like to keep a close eye on our weekly power level. It's real important.

    POWERRRRRRR.



    - Scott
    “Heroism breaks its heart, and idealism its back, on the intransigence of the credulous and the mediocre, manipulated by the cynical and the corrupt.” ~Christopher Hitchens

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    This whole "TFC is a good team" is new and scary. Kind of like the first time a boy sees a lady's breastessess. Show me moreeee!!!

 

 

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